Should BMW have limited the F32 range?

OC40 · 06-16-2014, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by alienranch

And does the OP really think there's a substantial difference between a 335 & 435? Enough to label one a "sports" car and the other a "family" car?

I was thinking the same thing. The 335/435 are basically the same car sans the doors. I also prefer four doors for my DD.

rjpeaks · 06-16-2014, 01:43 PM

so do my kids.

iCeMaNxLb · 06-16-2014, 02:54 PM

i have never owned a 4 door so i can't speak for others

as for me, 2 doors always give me the excuse to never have anyone in my backseat (unless of course i'm carrying hot chicks)

dc503 · 06-16-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by havoc57

Also if you want a "performance" car, you really don't give a damn about consumption.

I'm just saying, if you're concerned about fuel consumption then you're really not into outright performance are you?

Never really understood this idea. There's a compromise to an extent, but why wouldn't you want both if attainable? Nevertheless, we're driving 3 and 4 series cars that aren't the zenith of performance, so they better be somewhat efficient and appeal in other ways.

johndeere · 06-16-2014, 03:40 PM

With your logic we should only have rockets available for purchase. No diesel rockets of course...the range would be too much.

havoc57 · 06-16-2014, 03:46 PM

Well it's a matter of opinion. It's a fantastic sports coupe and I personally feel there should be limitations in order to preserve the exclusivity of the brand.

botis1028 · 06-16-2014, 03:51 PM

I asked the dealer about this when I bought my F30 335i. The guy I dealt with said that with the amount of people that lease cars they pride themselves on getting people in exactly the style car they want. I didn't really agree on this one - but he said that some people that want to get in an X6 but they can't get the payments where they want them, they will have them sit in a 5-series GT - big ass, more utility but cheaper.

With the 420i - they are just getting the market for people who would have gotten the 325i Coupe in previous models. IMO they make way too many different models - I think they would be better off just offering 328/335, 428/435 for the F30 and F32 models.

dc503 · 06-16-2014, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by havoc57

Well it's a matter of opinion. It's a fantastic sports coupe and I personally feel there should be limitations in order to preserve the exclusivity of the brand.

This is going to come off a little harsh but here goes...if that's what you want, get a more exclusive car and not one of the most accessible BMW models.

havoc57 · 06-16-2014, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by botis1028

I asked the dealer about this when I bought my F30 335i. The guy I dealt with said that with the amount of people that lease cars they pride themselves on getting people in exactly the style car they want. I didn't really agree on this one - but he said that some people that want to get in an X6 but they can't get the payments where they want them, they will have them sit in a 5-series GT - big ass, more utility but cheaper.

With the 420i - they are just getting the market for people who would have gotten the 325i Coupe in previous models. IMO they make way too many different models - I think they would be better off just offering 328/335, 428/435 for the F30 and F32 models.

OC40 · 06-16-2014, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by botis1028

I asked the dealer about this when I bought my F30 335i. The guy I dealt with said that with the amount of people that lease cars they pride themselves on getting people in exactly the style car they want. I didn't really agree on this one - but he said that some people that want to get in an X6 but they can't get the payments where they want them, they will have them sit in a 5-series GT - big ass, more utility but cheaper.

With the 420i - they are just getting the market for people who would have gotten the 325i Coupe in previous models. IMO they make way too many different models - I think they would be better off just offering 328/335, 428/435 for the F30 and F32 models.

I believe BMW should have only produced the 335/M3 and 435/M4.

Actually, let's keep it inline with the 550 and 650 models...350/M3 and 450/M4.

botis1028 · 06-16-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OC40

I believe BMW should have only produced the 335/M3 and 435/M4.

Actually, let's keep it inline with the 550 and 650 models...350/M3 and 450/M4.

The 335 is the equivalent to the 550 in size class. 435/650.

If I were BMW this is how it would pan out for cars:

228/235
328/335
428/435
535/550
640/650
640GC/650GC
750/760

M3, M4, M5, M6 and an M7 (not the Alpina to stay in line with the A8)

FC4 · 06-16-2014, 04:10 PM

It's pretty funny how people are talking about exclusivity on a forum for BMW's entry-level line...

OC40 · 06-16-2014, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FC4

It's pretty funny how people are talking about exclusivity on a forum for BMW's entry-level line...

Entry level? It's a super duper, luxury, extra premium, performance car!

OC40 · 06-16-2014, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by botis1028

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC40

I believe BMW should have only produced the 335/M3 and 435/M4.

Actually, let's keep it inline with the 550 and 650 models...350/M3 and 450/M4.

The 335 is the equivalent to the 550 in size class. 435/650.

If I were BMW this is how it would pan out for cars:

228/235
328/335
428/435
535/550
640/650
640GC/650GC
750/760

M3, M4, M5, M6 and an M7 (not the Alpina to stay in line with the A8)

Just get rid of every car below 550.

300hp · 06-16-2014, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FC4

It's pretty funny how people are talking about exclusivity on a forum for BMW's entry-level line...

^This
Exclusivity is a mirage in this segment.

alienranch · 06-16-2014, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by havoc57

Well it's a matter of opinion. It's a fantastic sports coupe and I personally feel there should be limitations in order to preserve the exclusivity of the brand.

They do. It's called an M4.

DecemberStorm · 06-16-2014, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve33

IMO limit the M-Sport to the 335/435(i or d). That's my only objection.

That's what they do in Canada, but probably more for cost effectiveness as Canada is a much smaller market

OC40 · 06-16-2014, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alienranch

Quote:

Originally Posted by havoc57

Well it's a matter of opinion. It's a fantastic sports coupe and I personally feel there should be limitations in order to preserve the exclusivity of the brand.

They do. It's called an M4.

havok57

Exclusive? I see at least 20 F3x's on a daily basis and my commute is five minutes each way (unless I stop at the grocery, then it's 10 minutes). BMW are not and should not be exclusive. BMW is an everyday car unless you get into the M series (even then, it's not exclusive).

Aston's, Maserati's and McLaren's? Those are "exclusive" brands. Yet, I see two to three Aston's/Masi's a day and at least one McLaren every weekend.

Steve33 · 06-16-2014, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OC40

havok57

Exclusive? I see at least 20 F30's on a daily basis and my commute is five minutes each way (unless I stop at the grocery, then it's 10 minutes). BMW are not and should not be exclusive. BMW is an everyday car unless you get into the M series (even then, it's not exclusive).

Aston's, Maserati's and McLaren's? Those are "exclusive" brands. Yet, I see two to three Aston's/Masi's a day and at least one McLaren every weekend.

I see all the above everyday at my office parking garage

OC40 · 06-16-2014, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve33

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Originally Posted by OC40

havok57

Exclusive? I see at least 20 F30's on a daily basis and my commute is five minutes each way (unless I stop at the grocery, then it's 10 minutes). BMW are not and should not be exclusive. BMW is an everyday car unless you get into the M series (even then, it's not exclusive).

Aston's, Maserati's and McLaren's? Those are "exclusive" brands. Yet, I see two to three Aston's/Masi's a day and at least one McLaren every weekend.

I see all the above everyday at my office parking garage

Lol. As do I. They are pretty standard in Irvine/Newport.

BimmerBoomer · 06-16-2014, 07:05 PM

No wonder there's some F32 envy evident here.

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