N20 engine failure

lijiahua790 · 04-25-2016, 02:59 AM

Sad story, my car's engine is most likely dead

Who? · 04-25-2016, 03:02 AM

do you know the cause?

just saw the video, its angle, not angel btw

lijiahua790 · 04-25-2016, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SJ00

do you know the cause?

Not yet, going to tow it to the shop first thing tmr.

Vitoco · 04-25-2016, 03:20 AM

Heavily modded one u got there... let´s see here, 1+1 equals?...

Realyl sorry, has to suck alot but honestly I would never trust this engine with anything more than a muffler-mod.

JamRWS6 · 04-25-2016, 07:36 AM

On the second angle you can hear things aren't right before it stops. Sorry to hear this; best of luck getting her going again and hope the damage isn't too bad.

lens · 04-25-2016, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JamRWS6

On the second angle you can hear things aren't right before it stops. Sorry to hear this; best of luck getting her going again and hope the damage isn't too bad.

^

Yup, when the engine gave out, it sounded like something shattered in the engine.

rolltidef32 · 04-25-2016, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitoco

Heavily modded one u got there... let´s see here, 1+1 equals?...

Realyl sorry, has to suck alot but honestly I would never trust this engine with anything more than a muffler-mod.

Thread subject is misleading. Engine did not fail it it was modded. You blew your engine.

Likely an issue with the turbo. I assume extra boost, but how much?

If boost was increased, did you change that down pipe? It's plastic and kind of cheap looking from the factory.

Since this was a track session, let it stand as a reminder of what can happen when you take a DD to a track.

Hope this was his second car.

akack79 · 04-25-2016, 10:20 AM

Looks like it's going to be an expensive repair bill........

jmaak · 04-25-2016, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolltidef32

Thread subject is misleading. Engine did not fail it it was modded. You blew your engine.

Likely an issue with the turbo. I assume extra boost, but how much?

If boost was increased, did you change that down pipe? It's plastic and kind of cheap looking from the factory.

Since this was a track session, let it stand as a reminder of what can happen when you take a DD to a track.

Hope this was his second car.

FYI... Downpipes are connected directly to the turbo exhaust (Hot Side) and are never made out of plastic. Are you referring to the intercooler/charge pipes?

lijiahua790 · 04-25-2016, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitoco

Heavily modded one u got there... let´s see here, 1+1 equals?...

Realyl sorry, has to suck alot but honestly I would never trust this engine with anything more than a muffler-mod.

Yea, that was a wrong road. Gonna back to Stock engine and maybe upgrade internal

lijiahua790 · 04-25-2016, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolltidef32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitoco

Heavily modded one u got there... letÂ´s see here, 1+1 equals?...

Realyl sorry, has to suck alot but honestly I would never trust this engine with anything more than a muffler-mod.

Thread subject is misleading. Engine did not fail it it was modded. You blew your engine.

Likely an issue with the turbo. I assume extra boost, but how much?

If boost was increased, did you change that down pipe? It's plastic and kind of cheap looking from the factory.

Since this was a track session, let it stand as a reminder of what can happen when you take a DD to a track.

Hope this was his second car.

I have JB4 and it is on map1, I was running 100octance racing gas.stock boost peak 1psi, I was looking at 21 peak boost

SsixHiMod · 04-25-2016, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akack79

Looks like it's going to be an expensive repair bill........

yep.

eluded · 04-25-2016, 11:19 AM

Could bad lines thru The corners have caused this ?

Hopefully The insides of the engine is OK and it was something like a transmission or something relatively minor. But I doubt it.

And somebody pointed out never race with your daily. Then I would point out is never run maximum boost during a track session. The only time you leave the boost cranked is on the street or at the dragstrip but not on the open track for 20 mins at a time. That's not a good idea.

Good luck

nicknaz · 04-25-2016, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolltidef32

Since this was a track session, let it stand as a reminder of what can happen when you take a DD to a track.

I think its more like "what can happen when you take a modded engine car to a track"

I've tracked all of my daily drivers (non bmws, non m bmws, and my current m3) and its hasn't been an issue

Sorry to hear about your issues OP, good luck with the $

Did you find the root cause

Polo08816 · 04-25-2016, 01:05 PM

And we go back to the... if tunes/powertrain mods were so easy.... BMW would have done it already.

Has anyone had a stock car experience an engine failure like this on the track?

XRAVE · 04-25-2016, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lijiahua790

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolltidef32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitoco

Heavily modded one u got there... letÂ´s see here, 1+1 equals?...

Realyl sorry, has to suck alot but honestly I would never trust this engine with anything more than a muffler-mod.

Thread subject is misleading. Engine did not fail it it was modded. You blew your engine.

Likely an issue with the turbo. I assume extra boost, but how much?

If boost was increased, did you change that down pipe? It's plastic and kind of cheap looking from the factory.

Since this was a track session, let it stand as a reminder of what can happen when you take a DD to a track.

Hope this was his second car.

I have JB4 and it is on map1, I was running 100octance racing gas.stock boost peak 1psi, I was looking at 21 peak boost

I would delete this post and honestly have this entire thread deleted.

If your gonna want warranty work done, you need to remove everything before you take it to BMW and the last thing you need is to have them find out its modded by coming on here.

lijiahua790 · 04-25-2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by XRAVE

Quote:

Originally Posted by lijiahua790

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolltidef32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitoco

Heavily modded one u got there... letÂ´s see here, 1+1 equals?...

Realyl sorry, has to suck alot but honestly I would never trust this engine with anything more than a muffler-mod.

Thread subject is misleading. Engine did not fail it it was modded. You blew your engine.

Likely an issue with the turbo. I assume extra boost, but how much?

If boost was increased, did you change that down pipe? It's plastic and kind of cheap looking from the factory.

Since this was a track session, let it stand as a reminder of what can happen when you take a DD to a track.

Hope this was his second car.

I have JB4 and it is on map1, I was running 100octance racing gas.stock boost peak 1psi, I was looking at 21 peak boost

I would delete this post and honestly have this entire thread deleted.

If your gonna want warranty work done, you need to remove everything before you take it to BMW and the last thing you need is to have them find out its modded by coming on here.

But the car is out of warren try tho. Or is it the life time warranty you are talking about

lijiahua790 · 04-25-2016, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eluded

Could bad lines thru The corners have caused this ?

Hopefully The insides of the engine is OK and it was something like a transmission or something relatively minor. But I doubt it.

And somebody pointed out never race with your daily. Then I would point out is never run maximum boost during a track session. The only time you leave the boost cranked is on the street or at the dragstrip but not on the open track for 20 mins at a time. That's not a good idea.

Good luck

I have just realized

mike@x-ph.com · 04-25-2016, 06:01 PM

Lets wait until we hear back on the diagnosis before we start making assumptions

The engine could still be OK for all we know

rolltidef32 · 04-25-2016, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmaak

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolltidef32

Thread subject is misleading. Engine did not fail it it was modded. You blew your engine.

Likely an issue with the turbo. I assume extra boost, but how much?

If boost was increased, did you change that down pipe? It's plastic and kind of cheap looking from the factory.

Since this was a track session, let it stand as a reminder of what can happen when you take a DD to a track.

Hope this was his second car.

FYI... Downpipes are connected directly to the turbo exhaust (Hot Side) and are never made out of plastic. Are you referring to the intercooler/charge pipes?

Sorry, yes, meant the charge pipe.

On the F30, if you're going to mod the engine at all by increasing boost, that's the first upgrade under the hood.

rolltidef32 · 04-25-2016, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolltidef32

Since this was a track session, let it stand as a reminder of what can happen when you take a DD to a track.

I think its more like "what can happen when you take a modded engine car to a track"

I've tracked all of my daily drivers (non bmws, non m bmws, and my current m3) and its hasn't been an issue

Sorry to hear about your issues OP, good luck with the $

Did you find the root cause

Was more thinking of the cost to quality of life. If this was his DD, he's now walking.

Even without mods, running your car off track is very easy, I see it often.

You're right to not take a modded turbo engine to the track. Only track upgrades for most people should be tires and suspension parts maybe depending on stock set up.

Actual racing is an entirely different subject that we shouldn't explore here.

nicknaz · 04-25-2016, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolltidef32

Was more thinking of the cost to quality of life. If this was his DD, he's now walking.

Maybe OP will get an E36 or E46 M3 that can be turned into a track beater while his DD is getting repaired

(I'm actually thinking of getting one of those, or a miata)

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