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      12-11-2016, 03:57 PM   #1
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Break-in of new engine/car? Yay or nay?

So in less than a month, I'll be picking up my first ever BMW, an estoril 430i GC M-sport package. And then comes that much debated question. Do we still take it gentle in new cars? Do we break-in the new engine, or drive it like we stole it from odometer virginity?

What are your opinions? Break-in? If so, how and how long?
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Only been asked a million times already - do a search and read the manual........
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Is it going to hurt anything to break it in ?
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So in less than a month, I'll be picking up my first ever BMW, an estoril 430i GC M-sport package. And then comes that much debated question. Do we still take it gentle in new cars? Do we break-in the new engine, or drive it like we stole it from odometer virginity?

What are your opinions? Break-in? If so, how and how long?
I have a 340i on order and I'll definitely be going easy for the first two or three months (2-3k miles) The manual certainly will suggest not over revving for a while (and certainly when the engine is cold).... then increasing your 'enthusiasm' gradually up to 'normal' levels. In a new car you tend to take it easy for a while anyway (well I always have) especially if you own the car. Leasing is a different matter as the car will be going back after your term with it! As said above, breaking in won't do any harm, but not breaking in just could cause unnecessary wear!
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      12-11-2016, 05:39 PM   #5
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So in less than a month, I'll be picking up my first ever BMW, an estoril 430i GC M-sport package. And then comes that much debated question. Do we still take it gentle in new cars? Do we break-in the new engine, or drive it like we stole it from odometer virginity?

What are your opinions? Break-in? If so, how and how long?
If you bought the car because you appreciate the engineering, then presumably you believe the engineers know what they're doing. So why would you take the break-in advice of random unknown people on the internet over the engineers who actually built the engine?
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When I pic up my new toy I sure will follow the instructions. Wether you decide to or not is up to you. With that said, take a look at the following video:
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      12-11-2016, 06:20 PM   #7
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Warm it up completely then go for it
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I love engineering explained! Definitely good vids to watch.
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Why wouldn't you just follow what the user manual says?
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Follow the recommended break in period then kick it in the ass as hard as you can.
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      12-11-2016, 07:30 PM   #11
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Are you leasing it? If you are then its the next owners problem. I doubt you will see any ill effects if you don't break it in lol.
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Are you leasing it? If you are then its the next owners problem. I doubt you will see any ill effects if you don't break it in lol.
not true at all. if you don't break it in properly you will not get a proper seal. if you don't get a proper seal you will see the effects before the end of the 4 year lease. you may not get engine failure but may get reduced power.
also if all leased people don't break in the engine properly and BMW starts getting earlier than expected engine problems than the residuals will be lowered since BMW will have a harder time to sell used cars.
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Must admit, I'm impressed by the restrained replies here!
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So in less than a month, I'll be picking up my first ever BMW, an estoril 430i GC M-sport package. And then comes that much debated question. Do we still take it gentle in new cars? Do we break-in the new engine, or drive it like we stole it from odometer virginity?

What are your opinions? Break-in? If so, how and how long?
If you leased beat the Shit out of it. Enjoy it!
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As I never keep any car for more than 2 years I spank it like a ginger step child from day one, never had a problem so far.
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As I never keep any car for more than 2 years I spank it like a ginger step child from day one, never had a problem so far.
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Why wouldn't you just follow what the user manual says?
And risk this?

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      12-12-2016, 08:28 AM   #18
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And risk this?

After that revocation, you then get the official DUMBASS card. Take it easy for the first 1200 miles (which is what BMW recommends) and go from there.
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Interjecting a little bit of information on why you need to break-in an engine. Besides all the other stuff that needs to mate/wear-in, one of the major concerns is the rings and cylinders.

The rings expand and contract based on heat and pressure in the cylinder, no news there. From the factory your cylinders are coated with a cross-hatch pattern with pointy tips. I think around 5 microns thick or thereabouts.

Anyway, during break-in the rings need to wear off the pointy tips so you ultimately end up with a nice smooth surface which mates perfectly with the rings. Too little heat and pressure (i.e. low rpm) and the rings don't press hard enough on the tips to scrub them off. Then over time your rings anneal, meaning the metal itself softens. Once that happens you can rev all you want but the rings are now too soft to scrub off those tips so your window for break-in is lost.

Go all Fast and Furious out the gate and you get so much heat and pressure (high rpm) from the rings forcefully scrubbing against the tips that you get spalling. That's when the metal from the tips rips off and bonds to the rings, preventing a smooth mating.

This is why you vary rpms and don't go nuts for the first 1200 miles. With modern manufacturing techniques there's a lot less metal-to-metal contact than before (that 5 microns I mentioned) so high-revving is likely not nearly as much a concern as it used to be.
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So in less than a month, I'll be picking up my first ever BMW, an estoril 430i GC M-sport package. And then comes that much debated question. Do we still take it gentle in new cars? Do we break-in the new engine, or drive it like we stole it from odometer virginity?

What are your opinions? Break-in? If so, how and how long?
Someone pointed out that in the F30 manual there is a paragraph on break-in.
However you get one chance at proper break-in so research it up and do it right.. btw driving like granny isnt the proper way to break it in in theory.. however i do wish BMW came with some tech bulletins to enlighten us on how they think we should drive to properly seat their rings..besides that single paragraph.. as it is important
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Let's see, $45,000+ cars designed by the leading automotive engineers, with procedures clearly spelled out. And you want to ask a bunch of enthusiastic posters if the guys who designed your car are correct.

No, the German engineers know nothing about the cars they designed. So listen to the folks here, many will tell you anything you want to read, between misspellings.

Me? After breaking in my last German car properly and driving it for 16 years without any engine problems, I decided that I'd follow break in properly as directed.

Plus I did an oil change at 1400 miles. But what do I know?
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So in less than a month, I'll be picking up my first ever BMW, an estoril 430i GC M-sport package. And then comes that much debated question. Do we still take it gentle in new cars? Do we break-in the new engine, or drive it like we stole it from odometer virginity?

What are your opinions? Break-in? If so, how and how long?
break in procedure is important for any car and SHOULD be followed if you even remotely care about the car. for the engine, no revving past 4k for 3000miles. at the very least, no repeated high revs during this period. your engine will not burn a drop of oil in the long run if you do this.

clutch, brakes, and tires all need to be broken in for optimal effectiveness.
while this is less important, transmissions need A LONG TIME to full break-in. it doesnt mean you cant do full throttle pulls once the 3000mile period is up, just dont do anything stupid with it.
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