[inkiboo]

Originally Posted by Nobby Clark

There is no point debating if Wikipedia is the basis of your evidence. You sit happy with IP 44 as rainproof, and then ask why so many BMW headlamps are full of moisture.

Show me a source, with references, that disagrees with it then. The Wikipedia line is a cop-out.

I found it for you (except it agrees with Wiki):

https://www.sis.se/api/document/preview/915891/

Look at page 5. Level 3 is 60 degree spray, level 4 is all direction spray, just like I said.

[RobUK]

Originally Posted by RoShambolt

I called the credit card company and they said if they refuse to have the item collected then send it back and they will refund the cost, as its within the 14 days I'm entitled to a full refund anyway. If they don't play ball they have logged the issue now and will get involved if needed.

Sounds like a good result. Hope it gets resolved OK.

[RoShambolt]

Originally Posted by Nobby Clark

IP44 Isn't rain proof. You need IPx8.

I need IP44 for the install, I'm not saying IP44 is rainproof, this crappy online company is, to be honest they've not been very impressive on a lot of other fronts. :

This rainproof debate in this instance is pointless anyway, when you look into it, all these LED panel lights are only IP rated from the lens side, so unless I start installing lights on the floor it doesn't matter anyway.

[RoShambolt]

Originally Posted by bishbosh

I doubt the OP is thinking about installing the lights in a bucket of water.

So, splash proof should suffice.

Correct, no plans to have them lighting the garage from a bucket of water.

[TiredGeek]

Originally Posted by inkiboo

Also, IPx6 is 100 litres of water per minute for 3 minutes. Please show me rain that comes down at that volume!

Not been to Scotland in summer then ?






Sorry, couldn't resist