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      10-01-2013, 05:42 PM   #1
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Outrageous F32 4 series leases

I emailed a local SA about a potential 435i lease for 3 years 10k miles per year and without a cap reduction, only license reg and first payments, payment comes out to $826 including local sales tax of 9% for a $58k msrp.

Take a look and tell me what you think. There is a huge mark-up in the MF for unknown reasons from 0.00125 to 0.00165.
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      10-01-2013, 05:53 PM   #2
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It's a total ripoff. Never pay MSRP. I just ordered a 435 $2800 off MSRP (no incentives in that discount), 62% RV, .00125 for 36 months.
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Thats ridiculous for 10k miles...I was told it was going to be crappy by my sales people in july, which is why I just went with the 3.
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I received a return email stating they are selling all 435's at msrp with the mark-up on the MF and if I were to place an order they would give a discount plus the regular 0.00125 MF rate.

I could be driving a 640 coupe for $800 a month.
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I received a return email stating they are selling all 435's at msrp with the mark-up on the MF and if I were to place an order they would give a discount plus the regular 0.00125 MF rate.

I could be driving a 640 coupe for $800 a month.
You need to find another dealer.
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      10-01-2013, 06:06 PM   #6
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You need to find another dealer.
Yea I dont plan to order from them, they were the only dealer in the area that had a 435 in stock so I wanted to know what they would offer.

Ive had better offers. But I am looking to replace my MY12 328i with a $63k 435i. Maybe I should wait a while because payments should drop just after new years.
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Along with the loss I will incur trading in a lease before it ends.
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Yea I dont plan to order from them, they were the only dealer in the area that had a 435 in stock so I wanted to know what they would offer.

Ive had better offers. But I am looking to replace my MY12 328i with a $63k 435i. Maybe I should wait a while because payments should drop just after new years.
Why don't you contact David at Steve Thomas BMW....he will take care of you
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Why don't you contact David at Steve Thomas BMW....he will take care of you
he's out of the country till the Oct. 11th, but the OP can PM GOLFFRR (Jimmy), who will then ask him to email kknight at (replace with @ symbol) stevethomasbmw.com (Kwinn), who is covering David for the time being.

I emailed Kwinn earlier, still waiting for a price quote. Also leasing a 435i coupe.
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Why don't you contact David at Steve Thomas BMW....he will take care of you
he's out of the country till the Oct. 11th, but the OP can PM GOLFFRR (Jimmy), who will then ask him to email kknight at (replace with @ symbol) stevethomasbmw.com (Kwinn), who is covering David for the time being.

I emailed Kwinn earlier, still waiting for a price quote. Also leasing a 435i coupe.
Great Info. Looks like everyone knows where David has gone vacationing, including me. Lol

+1 for Kwinn, Jimmy and Steve Thomas BMW. Give them a shot.
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Keep in mind the basics of supply and demand.

How many 4 series are stateside?

How many people are going to walk in and say "hey this looks nice I want it!"

How many allocation slots are the dealers going to have in the next few months?

First off never try to negotiate over the internet. But I would expect your negotiating power to be low when the car is so new. I certainly wouldn't expect any "$500 over invoice" deals or anything close.
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Why don't you contact David at Steve Thomas BMW....he will take care of you
That is exactly what I did after my local dealership wasn't giving discounts. David was extremely helpful and I'm looking forward to taking delivery of my 428i next month.
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