First Day w/ HK System

rjd598 · 01-24-2016, 12:12 PM

excited to try this out when my car comes. just curious what glenn's opinion on the hk is for a car like the f3x. any competitors in the same class that have a better upgraded audio option from the factory?

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 01-24-2016, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rjd598

excited to try this out when my car comes. just curious what glenn's opinion on the hk is for a car like the f3x. any competitors in the same class that have a better upgraded audio option from the factory?

I didn't really spend any appreciable time evaluating audio systems. BMW had the best telematics system, and the best car for my needs. Since there is only 1 audio upgrade in the F30, it was a no-brainer to equip the HK option on my car.

subsy · 01-25-2016, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by glennQNYC

I believe the 'hole' at 130Hz is the transition point between the under-seat woofers and the midrange drivers in the door. I'm thinking the 215Hz (aprox) peak is from the engineers attempting to mask this deficiency by boosting frequencies around this dip in the response.

you can do that effectively with additional harmonics, but not just by boosting given frequencies. I'd hazard a guess its also SBIR related.

subsy · 01-25-2016, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by therealm3

Set it like Glenn did, and then turn up the bass slider to like +3 or 4. Definitely added more bass for me when I want it.

Go easy though, if the 100Hz band is a low shelf, you'll be adding back the mudiness you removed by pulling down the 200Hz band.

Broadsword · 01-25-2016, 06:43 AM

glennQNYC, thanks for the EQ settings! I got it set up in my F30 and the wife's F15 X5. Keep it up!

JOHNBMWM5 · 02-10-2016, 06:42 AM

I used those settings awful sound, you need a hearing test IMO.

Goody4 · 02-10-2016, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

I used those settings awful sound, you need a hearing test IMO.

Well don't keep us in the dark. What are the better settings?

JOHNBMWM5 · 02-10-2016, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Goody4

Well don't keep us in the dark. What are the better settings?

I will look at the car and come back to you.

jgoens · 02-10-2016, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

I will look at the car and come back to you.

This will be interesting...you put yourself out there now for the F30 jury to decide.

JOHNBMWM5 · 02-10-2016, 11:22 AM

Right try this 100hz +3
200 -5
500+4
1Khz -1
2Khz +5
5KHz +5
10Khz+2

Give it a go,

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 02-10-2016, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

Right try this 100hz +3
200 -5
500+4
1Khz -1
2Khz +5
5KHz +5
10Khz+2

Give it a go,

How are the Bass and Treble set? Is L7 processing active?

jgoens · 02-10-2016, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

Right try this 100hz +3
200 -5
500+4
1Khz -1
2Khz +5
5KHz +5
10Khz+2

Give it a go,

I just went and tried the settings--Bass and treble I left at +1 each.

The sound is certainly more in your face,but for me the extra highs get a little tinny...I tried it with the radio with rock, alternative rock and hip hop and a usb with Rock. I would say not bad until you increase the volume then the highs kind of take over. But, I tend to be a little more bass heavy and that is why I bump the 100 +5.

Goody4 · 02-10-2016, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jgoens

...the extra highs get a little tinny....

This was my assessment, as well. I listened to six different 320 kbps tracks from the Music Collection for my test.

I'm going to stick with GlennQNYC's most recent recommendation.

MikeVictor · 02-14-2016, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

Right try this 100hz +3
200 -5
500+4
1Khz -1
2Khz +5
5KHz +5
10Khz+2

Give it a go,

What type of music do you listen to with these settings?

Got to say I'm not a huge fan. Too much tinniness.

JOHNBMWM5 · 02-15-2016, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVictor

What type of music do you listen to with these settings?

Got to say I'm not a huge fan. Too much tinniness.

Planet rock most journeys.
Treble setting - 1 Bass + 1

yoandry · 03-14-2016, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

I used those settings awful sound, you need a hearing test IMO.

Exactly my opinion.

So, I don't know how is this so complicate for people, and most important, everyone has different music taste so pretty much different EQ.
It is no brainier to go to the EQ and play with the setting till you feel is the best sound for you.

I like to hear the crispy of the tweeters, so no way I will put 10k - . Pretty much 10kh will never go lower than 100h.

Here is how I like it.

100hz +4
200 -2
500 -1
1Khz flat
2Khz flat
5KHz +1
10Khz+5

Bass +3
Treble +5

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 03-14-2016, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by yoandry

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

I used those settings awful sound, you need a hearing test IMO.

Exactly my opinion.

So, I don't know how is this so complicate for people, and most important, everyone has different music taste so pretty much different EQ.
It is no brainier to go to the EQ and play with the setting till you feel is the best sound for you.

I like to hear the crispy of the tweeters, so no way I will put 10k - . Pretty much 10kh will never go lower than 100h.

Here is how I like it.

100hz +4
200 -2
500 -1
1Khz flat
2Khz flat
5KHz +1
10Khz+5

Bass +3
Treble +5

The consensus among professionals is that the audio system should be sonically neutral; with the goal being to reproduce the what the engineers and producers intended as accurately as possible. The actual listening material is insignificant to this objective.

That being said, everyone's ears and brain work differently; and people just have different tastes. There is a lot of "art" in this science!

Enjoy the ride.

tcm3 · 03-15-2016, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by glennQNYC

The consensus among professionals is that the audio system should be sonically neutral; with the goal being to reproduce the what the engineers and producers intended as accurately as possible. The actual listening material is insignificant to this objective.

That being said, everyone's ears and brain work differently; and people just have different tastes. There is a lot of "art" in this science!

Enjoy the ride.

Glenn, have you considered upgrading your speakers to the BavSound HK speaker set? Have you heard them?

I'm wondering how much better (if any) the upgraded speakers are (properly tuned) compared to stock with Glenn's tune.

dman918 · 03-15-2016, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by glennQNYC

The consensus among professionals is that the audio system should be sonically neutral; with the goal being to reproduce the what the engineers and producers intended as accurately as possible. The actual listening material is insignificant to this objective.

That being said, everyone's ears and brain work differently; and people just have different tastes. There is a lot of "art" in this science!

Enjoy the ride.

THIS!

That being said, I currently am playing with 10khz at +1 or +2 because I do prefer a touch bright.

subsy · 07-22-2016, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by glennQNYC

There is a lot of "art" in this science!

As Bob Katz said

McVesey · 11-28-2016, 01:23 PM

Can somebody advise the difference between flat and centred? Especially where flat is used in relation to Bass and Treble.

Thanks

bad karma · 11-28-2016, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by McVesey

Can somebody advise the difference between flat and centred? Especially where flat is used in relation to Bass and Treble.

Thanks

Different words meaning the same thing. No adjustment from the center position of the level for that frequency.

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