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      08-21-2012, 08:49 AM   #221
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No way. E90 with those specs is over 40k.
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      08-21-2012, 08:50 AM   #222
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But I think we get your point^^, BMW is to expensive for you
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      08-21-2012, 08:52 AM   #223
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The variable sport steering starts with a closer steering ratio compared to the standard rack. For the first 100 degree of turn the ratio will be quicker compared to std rack. After that the ratio starts to change.
I've read one or two posts by members who said they felt as if the VSS did have a firmer feel.
What's your source for this dude? I only ask because I've tried very hard to get to the bottom of this and my conclusion is that the steering is the same below 100 degrees and quicker after it - i.e. it's for tight manouvering and parking and stuff, not normal driving where you barely go past a quarter turn. And the stiffness is identical to normal servotronic, too. That's from asking two different BMW dealers and trying my best to find out from the internet. This forum alone, for some reason, seems adamant that the steering is somehow more than anyone else says it is so was just wondering if you're re-stating what this forum says or you can point me int he direction of something conclusive
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      08-21-2012, 11:48 AM   #224
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lol that title is misleading.. When I read it, I made a deep sigh, when I read the first post, that all cleared up again lol

Anyways, after the E46, there were not many BMW's that I really liked, the brand lost it's classiness with the E90 in my personal opinion.. now with the F30, I'm totally in love with the 3 series again =)
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      08-21-2012, 03:31 PM   #225
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What's your source for this dude? I only ask because I've tried very hard to get to the bottom of this and my conclusion is that the steering is the same below 100 degrees and quicker after it - i.e. it's for tight manouvering and parking and stuff, not normal driving where you barely go past a quarter turn. And the stiffness is identical to normal servotronic, too. That's from asking two different BMW dealers and trying my best to find out from the internet. This forum alone, for some reason, seems adamant that the steering is somehow more than anyone else says it is so was just wondering if you're re-stating what this forum says or you can point me int he direction of something conclusive
I hold to VSS feeling different. I test drove 2 models back to back where the only differences were VSS and parking package. The one with the VSS felt firmer/better. I bought a f30 with sport line/VSS based off of my test drives.
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      08-22-2012, 05:26 AM   #226
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OK Cool. None of the dealers round me had any cars with VSS so I was unable to try it for myself - hence my attempts to find "the truth"
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