Newbie needing some help/ encouragement to decide..330d or GTD

mtr123 · 07-04-2014, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jds990

Yep on a new ordered, used a drive the deal quote to bring it down, wouldn't be looking at it otherwise! Can get about £3/4k off the GTD price

Out of interest what pcp figures are you getting?

It is an odd comparison but strangely I'm looking at either golfs or 3 series as well ATM (or an e class but I think I'd get some really strange looks being in my early 20's haha)

dopper99 · 07-04-2014, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by F30AM

And rolls like a demented drunk obese creature. Had to be said.

That is not a problem, the 335d can now be fixed in that respect.

Irnbrukid · 07-04-2014, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by F30AM

You always seem to be in reverse.

You always have to bring the Golf R in to the conversation, whether it's required or not... it's tedious! We all know it's a decent car you don't have to remind us every 2nd post...

JustChris · 07-04-2014, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Irnbrukid

You always have to bring the Golf R in to the conversation, whether it's required or not... it's tedious! We all know it's a decent car you don't have to remind us every 2nd post...

I am with Irnbrukid.

Best place for it

teaston · 07-04-2014, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Irnbrukid

You always have to bring the Golf R in to the conversation, whether it's required or not... it's tedious! We all know it's a decent car you don't have to remind us every 2nd post...

Lol, i would agree, but, it's because of F30AM that i have a 330d so the guy's alright with me!

Rich9600 · 07-04-2014, 07:42 PM

@Jds990

4 and a half years ago I was comparing a GTD against the previous model 3 Series (E90). I wound up with a 320d in SE guise. Even with the soft suspension I found the handling more engaging than the equivalent age GTD. BMW Balance and poise vs GTD scruff of the neck fun... Performance, I thought, was directly comparable.

Now, I would suggest that the F30 320d MSport is more comparable with the GTD. However, it is much more refined than the E90 I compared to the 2009 GTD.

I have the F30 330d now, it's a different beast again, the 6 pot smoothness and grunt are wonderful. However, this is set against short run thirst. So, consider your usage. If your journeys are short, less than 15 miles then you will in most likelihood get notably better economy from a smaller engine. It's the long runs, greater than 30 miles, where the gap narrows. My E90 320d is 1mpg better on paper, though with a 12 mile commute it beats the 330d by 8-10mpg. On longer runs this is down to 2-5mpg. Something else to figure into your costs...

As @Teaston has suggested the Adaptive Suspension is an option well worth considering. I have it and really enjoy the Jekyll and Hyde nature it enhances in the 330d. Sport mode brings out loads of grip and great body control for a larger car, whilst still allowing softly damped luxury in comfort mode. However, as noted above, you are certainly aware of the size and weight if the car. Especially in the softer setup.

I'd consider the GTD for mostly shorter runs and 'ragging it'. Though, if any distances are involved, the 330d is far superior.

robwils · 07-05-2014, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChesterM4

I am with Irnbrukid.

Best place for it

Love it !

F30AM · 07-05-2014, 05:16 AM

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Jds990 · 07-05-2014, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mtr123

Out of interest what pcp figures are you getting?

It is an odd comparison but strangely I'm looking at either golfs or 3 series as well ATM (or an e class but I think I'd get some really strange looks being in my early 20's haha)

What conclusions are you coming to ?

8k deposit, 380 per month - 36 months and 20k miles per year.
Bmw finance 4.9% apr, Vw 6.9%

Jds990 · 07-05-2014, 06:09 AM

Hmm adaptive suspension , but doesn't it already have 3 settings for comfort sport and Eco which changes the suspension settings? What does the adaptive bring to the table?

NISFAN · 07-05-2014, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jds990

Hmm adaptive suspension , but doesn't it already have 3 settings for comfort sport and Eco which changes the suspension settings? What does the adaptive bring to the table?

No, the passive suspension stays as it is in all the modes.

I prefer the passive suspension, it sits half way between the soft and firm settings of the adaptive, but it about the best for the spring rate. Springs on both are the same.

Irnbrukid · 07-05-2014, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ChesterM4

I am with Irnbrukid.

Best place for it

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Originally Posted by teaston

Lol, i would agree, but, it's because of F30AM that i have a 330d so the guy's alright with me!

He's not bad for an auld codger

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Originally Posted by F30AM

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

mtr123 · 07-05-2014, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jds990

What conclusions are you coming to ?

8k deposit, 380 per month - 36 months and 20k miles per year.
Bmw finance 4.9% apr, Vw 6.9%

I need to test drive the e class which I'm hoping to do tomorrow.

It's coming out a lot cheaper, 5k down and 288 per month for an e220 amg auto and its got a big big big boot which I will take advantage off, I'm hoping it drives well.

Arwmjc · 07-05-2014, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mtr123

I need to test drive the e class which I'm hoping to do tomorrow.

It's coming out a lot cheaper, 5k down and 288 per month for an e220 amg auto and its got a big big big boot which I will take advantage off, I'm hoping it drives well.

It won't compare to a bmw... Ur too young for a merc e class

JustChris · 07-05-2014, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Arwmjc

It won't compare to a bmw... Ur too young for a merc e class

Hmm +1 a bit, wrongly it is what I think when I see an E class. Still different kind of car to an F30, very classy indeed the mercs and there are GREAT deals around right now on some of their models.

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Rich9600 Colonel 741 Rep 2,511 Posts Drives: i4 M50 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	@Jds990 4 and a half years ago I was comparing a GTD against the previous model 3 Series (E90). I wound up with a 320d in SE guise. Even with the soft suspension I found the handling more engaging than the equivalent age GTD. BMW Balance and poise vs GTD scruff of the neck fun... Performance, I thought, was directly comparable. Now, I would suggest that the F30 320d MSport is more comparable with the GTD. However, it is much more refined than the E90 I compared to the 2009 GTD. I have the F30 330d now, it's a different beast again, the 6 pot smoothness and grunt are wonderful. However, this is set against short run thirst. So, consider your usage. If your journeys are short, less than 15 miles then you will in most likelihood get notably better economy from a smaller engine. It's the long runs, greater than 30 miles, where the gap narrows. My E90 320d is 1mpg better on paper, though with a 12 mile commute it beats the 330d by 8-10mpg. On longer runs this is down to 2-5mpg. Something else to figure into your costs... As @Teaston has suggested the Adaptive Suspension is an option well worth considering. I have it and really enjoy the Jekyll and Hyde nature it enhances in the 330d. Sport mode brings out loads of grip and great body control for a larger car, whilst still allowing softly damped luxury in comfort mode. However, as noted above, you are certainly aware of the size and weight if the car. Especially in the softer setup. I'd consider the GTD for mostly shorter runs and 'ragging it'. Though, if any distances are involved, the 330d is far superior. __________________ Driving i4 M50 (G26) Previous 340i Touring MSport (F31)
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Jds990 New Member 4 Rep 29 Posts Drives: VW Golf Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Hmm adaptive suspension , but doesn't it already have 3 settings for comfort sport and Eco which changes the suspension settings? What does the adaptive bring to the table?
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