340 X-Drive 0-60 in 4.2?

cardsdoc · 01-16-2016, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by paul e

Yes, mixed = staggered.

Not just staggered but summer as well. The descriptions on the byo site aren't completely obvious.

Portimao Blues · 01-16-2016, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blubaron79

I'll cause an uproar:

This is why AWD should be offered in M vehicles. Cars are getting so powerful they need more traction to get the power down.

+1 No uproar from me...All of the Audi S/RS models and some of Mercedes AMG models are AWD. Infiniti just unveiled a 3.0 liter, twin-turbo V6 with 400 hp for the Q50 sedan & Q60 coupe, both will be available in AWD by mid-year. BMW needs to to get with the program...and fast!

300hp · 01-16-2016, 02:13 PM

These guys were one of the first to test the C400 when it came out. They got 4.6 to 60 and I believe at this stage its indisputable that the C400 can achieve that.

As someone said earlier a 335i xdrive with the 20hp PPK tested at 4.4s. The b58 makes peak tq and hp over a much larger rev range than the N55 so this 4.2 looks legit to me

300hp · 01-16-2016, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Estoril Blues

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Originally Posted by Blubaron79

I'll cause an uproar:

This is why AWD should be offered in M vehicles. Cars are getting so powerful they need more traction to get the power down.

+1 No uproar from me...All of the Audi S/RS models and some of Mercedes AMG models are AWD. Infiniti just unveiled a 3.0 liter, twin-turbo V6 with 400 hp for the Q50 sedan & Q60 coupe, both will be available in AWD by mid-year. BMW needs to to get with the program...and fast!

I wouldn't worry about that Infiniti engine. It will all come down to who puts power to the ground better. The BMW is lighter and has a better transmission than the Infiniti. Turbo lag is also something to watch out for in the new Infiniti engine

goj · 01-16-2016, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by paul e

Yes, mixed = staggered.

No, unless my CA was wrong, mixed summer tires means that the tires could be Pirelli, Goodyear, or Bridgestone on my 19" 403m wheels.

strumbringer · 01-16-2016, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by goj

No, unless my CA was wrong, mixed summer tires means that the tires could be Pirelli, Goodyear, or Bridgestone on my 19" 403m wheels.

He was wrong. Mixed means staggered.

goj · 01-16-2016, 04:27 PM

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No, unless my CA was wrong, mixed summer tires means that the tires could be Pirelli, Goodyear, or Bridgestone on my 19" 403m wheels.

He was wrong. Mixed means staggered.

That's weird. It would make more sense if it said mixed wheels since it's the wheels that are staggered.

Weird marketing bmw

NOITALL · 01-16-2016, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by goj

That's weird. It would make more sense if it said mixed wheels since it's the wheels that are staggered.

Weird marketing bmw

So the tires are the same, to you? Only the wheels are different?

The wheels don't have to be different...

Anyway, you believe a dealership...

Cheers

goj · 01-16-2016, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm wrong

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Originally Posted by goj

That's weird. It would make more sense if it said mixed wheels since it's the wheels that are staggered.

Weird marketing bmw

So the tires are the same, to you? Only the wheels are different?

The wheels don't have to be different...

Anyway, you believe a dealership...

Cheers

I just said its weird marketing BMW, and that the other way would make more sense to me..not that I 100% believe the dealer...try actually reading my two posts. Dealers are wrong frequently I find when it comes to random info so I'm not surprised my CA is wrong

Edit: Cheers

Blubaron79 · 01-16-2016, 07:07 PM

Just wait until someone slaps the power kit on it...

DS_BMW · 01-16-2016, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Estoril Blues

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Originally Posted by Blubaron79

I'll cause an uproar:

This is why AWD should be offered in M vehicles. Cars are getting so powerful they need more traction to get the power down.

+1 No uproar from me...All of the Audi S/RS models and some of Mercedes AMG models are AWD. Infiniti just unveiled a 3.0 liter, twin-turbo V6 with 400 hp for the Q50 sedan & Q60 coupe, both will be available in AWD by mid-year. BMW needs to to get with the program...and fast!

Why? Audi is know for Quattro that is there thing. Why should BMW follow with there M cars that are known for balance and RWD fun handling and characteristics?

Blubaron79 · 01-17-2016, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DS_BMW

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Originally Posted by Estoril Blues

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Originally Posted by Blubaron79

I'll cause an uproar:

This is why AWD should be offered in M vehicles. Cars are getting so powerful they need more traction to get the power down.

+1 No uproar from me...All of the Audi S/RS models and some of Mercedes AMG models are AWD. Infiniti just unveiled a 3.0 liter, twin-turbo V6 with 400 hp for the Q50 sedan & Q60 coupe, both will be available in AWD by mid-year. BMW needs to to get with the program...and fast!

Why? Audi is know for Quattro that is there thing. Why should BMW follow with there M cars that are known for balance and RWD fun handling and characteristics?

I love that I can hammer my xdrive and the ass end will still slide out. BMW RWD characteristics hold true to the current xdrive. Unlike Audi's nose heavy FWD bias.

CaptBreadbeard · 01-17-2016, 11:08 AM

0-60 is mostly a useless metric IMHO. It's far to dependent on testing conditions and everyone only posts their best times. An average time would be more useful or at least some measure of variance. Besides, most cars are not driven this way so perhaps a 5-60MPH is more useful? Personally, I'd prefer a mid-speed passing metric like 40-80MPH which included all latencies. That would be a more practical and useful metric, but it would punish turbos and autos. Oh well.

goj · 01-17-2016, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptBreadbeard

0-60 is mostly a useless metric IMHO. It's far to dependent on testing conditions and everyone only posts their best times. An average time would be more useful or at least some measure of variance. Besides, most cars are not driven this way so perhaps a 5-60MPH is more useful? Personally, I'd prefer a mid-speed passing metric like 40-80MPH which included all latencies. That would be a more practical and useful metric, but it would punish turbos and autos. Oh well.

He was just asking if the 4.2s was legitimate. Not how useful it is as a metric. And it's not about which metric is better than another. It's about what all the metrics in an instrumented test combine together to mean.

JustinC_87 · 01-17-2016, 07:06 PM

I just tried out my launch control for the first time on my 340i x drive. I'm about 1100 ft. above sea level so I don't know if that makes much of a difference, but I got a 0-60 time of 4.5 seconds using the M lap timer.

Justin

Vegetable · 01-17-2016, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinC_87

I just tried out my launch control for the first time on my 340i x drive. I'm about 1100 ft. above sea level so I don't know if that makes much of a difference, but I got a 0-60 time of 4.5 seconds using the M lap timer.

Justin

Are you not in Colorado Springs anymore? If not, 1,100 ft above sea level shouldn't make much of a difference at all. If you were in Colorado springs maybe a small difference, but even then not much thanks to forced induction.

Portimao Blues · 01-17-2016, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DS_BMW

Why? Audi is know for Quattro that is there thing. Why should BMW follow with there M cars that are known for balance and RWD fun handling and characteristics?

I'm simply suggesting that AWD should be offered as an option on the M cars. Those that want RWD fun handling can still have their RWD M cars and those that want better traction can opt for an AWD M car. More choice are a good thing.

JustinC_87 · 01-17-2016, 09:55 PM

I'm not in Colorado Springs anymore. Im currently in Oklahoma doing some training for the Army. I'm pretty happy with that 4.5. Not sure if I could get it down to 4.2 though.. Seems like a little bit of a stretch. Maybe if all conditions were perfect.

bimmercar · 01-18-2016, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinC_87

I'm not in Colorado Springs anymore. Im currently in Oklahoma doing some training for the Army. I'm pretty happy with that 4.5. Not sure if I could get it down to 4.2 though.. Seems like a little bit of a stretch. Maybe if all conditions were perfect.

what tires and temps did you make your run with?

x986 · 01-18-2016, 10:09 AM

One thing that no one has mentioned - I doubt that many of "our" cars are fully broken in, i.e. 5K miles.

JustinC_87 · 01-18-2016, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmercar

what tires and temps did you make your run with?

I have the Bridgestone Potenza S001 19" Run-Flats and it was about 32 degrees outside when I did the run.

bimmercar · 01-18-2016, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinC_87

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what tires and temps did you make your run with?

I have the Bridgestone Potenza S001 19" Run-Flats and it was about 32 degrees outside when I did the run.

wow... i guess it would be faster with higher temps

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CaptBreadbeard New Member 2 Rep 12 Posts Drives: TBD Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Meh 0-60 is mostly a useless metric IMHO. It's far to dependent on testing conditions and everyone only posts their best times. An average time would be more useful or at least some measure of variance. Besides, most cars are not driven this way so perhaps a 5-60MPH is more useful? Personally, I'd prefer a mid-speed passing metric like 40-80MPH which included all latencies. That would be a more practical and useful metric, but it would punish turbos and autos. Oh well.
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JustinC_87 New Member 3 Rep 16 Posts Drives: 340i xdrive Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Colorado Springs, CO iTrader: (0)	I just tried out my launch control for the first time on my 340i x drive. I'm about 1100 ft. above sea level so I don't know if that makes much of a difference, but I got a 0-60 time of 4.5 seconds using the M lap timer. Justin
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JustinC_87 New Member 3 Rep 16 Posts Drives: 340i xdrive Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Colorado Springs, CO iTrader: (0)	I'm not in Colorado Springs anymore. Im currently in Oklahoma doing some training for the Army. I'm pretty happy with that 4.5. Not sure if I could get it down to 4.2 though.. Seems like a little bit of a stretch. Maybe if all conditions were perfect.
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