[Gfit]

I seem to think that memo showing the delay was either a fake or a mistake. I just took delivery today of a 2013 335xi, M Sport, M Performance Power Kit, late July 2013 build. It was installed at the VPC. No issues and shows 400/400.

[AweSam8]

Originally Posted by scubadoo

I seem to think that memo showing the delay was either a fake or a mistake. I just took delivery today of a 2013 335xi, M Sport, M Performance Power Kit, late July 2013 build. It was installed at the VPC. No issues and shows 400/400.

So it's back now? My dealer says he hopes by the time my car gets to the port that the PPK will be available.

[Gfit]

Originally Posted by AweSam8

So it's back now? My dealer says he hopes by the time my car gets to the port that the PPK will be available.

According to my dealer and some others I spoke with, it was never gone. I added it to my order about 3 weeks ago while it was on the ship. Not a single issue. Almost wish I never read this post so I wouldn't have been worried. Lol

Only have a day with it so far and love it. Crazy fast. In terms of the exhaust, I do not thing it's any louder. The only difference I notice is the burble when you let off the throttle.

[trey100]

Originally Posted by scubadoo

According to my dealer and some others I spoke with, it was never gone. I added it to my order about 3 weeks ago while it was on the ship. Not a single issue. Almost wish I never read this post so I wouldn't have been worried. Lol

Only have a day with it so far and love it. Crazy fast. In terms of the exhaust, I do not thing it's any louder. The only difference I notice is the burble when you let off the throttle.

My dealer says it is not an option on his list. Bmwusa accessories site also only shows it for up to July builds. Anyone with an August build that ordered it?

[mrich1353]

PPK was accepted and confirmed (via paper anyway) on my August 1 build. It arrived at port on Thursday, due to the dealer next couple of days.

[trey100]

Originally Posted by mrich1353

PPK was accepted and confirmed (via paper anyway) on my August 1 build. It arrived at port on Thursday, due to the dealer next couple of days.

I'm wondering if you ordered it prior to the discontinuation so it slipped through.

[mrich1353]

Originally Posted by trey100

I'm wondering if you ordered it prior to the discontinuation so it slipped through.

When we located this vehicle, the question of availability was flying around. I added PPK to the order around August 20th.

[300hp]

400/400 displays

I know I owe people here a video of the sport displays, I have not got the chance to record it yet.

Continuing with the speculation that 400/400 displays imply one has the new PPK I made a couple of observations. The display will show peak hp of 335hp mostly when accelerating from a stop before shifting from 2nd to 3rd. N55 with AT will shift from 2nd to 3rd around 55mph

That's where I have observed 335hp the most.

Hopefully others can describe what they are seeing too

[Gfit]

Originally Posted by trey100

I'm wondering if you ordered it prior to the discontinuation so it slipped through.

So far I have found very few people that had problems adding it to their build so I'm thinking dealer error for those that have. I'm still calling that memo bs.

[trey100]

Originally Posted by scubadoo

So far I have found very few people that had problems adding it to their build so I'm thinking dealer error for those that have. I'm still calling that memo bs.

But BMWs own website lists it as only being available up to July. I don't think that was misinformation. I've seen other posts with people saying their dealers can't find it on the system either.

[johndeere]

I have a June build car, and had the PPK installed at the dealership at the beginning of August. My sport display is the same as a non PPK sport display (i.e. I don't get 400/400 on the display)

[bringonthenite]

Originally Posted by 3magine

I have a June build car, and had the PPK installed at the dealership at the beginning of August. My sport display is the same as a non PPK sport display (i.e. I don't get 400/400 on the display)

Had my PPK installed pre delivery at the end of May. Last month I went in to have the ASS recoded and to have the display recoded from the Euro measurements. Mine now shows NA measurements and 400/400. Must be a software update that is needed.

[Mobster1983]

It feels like there's a lot of bad info on here. The impression I got fort he MPPK memo was the MY 2014 cars. There is no reason why 2013 cars would change from one month to the other. Does anyone have a MY2014 335i that had the MPPK installed? I didn't see anyone specifically mention that.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by EvenKeel

Can someone please comment on impact on Fuel Economy with the MPPK.

I've found that with the 335i, how often you get into boost has a very dramatic impact on fuel economy. I've seen fuel economy as low at 17 mpg in the city and as high as 31mpg on the highway. I'm usually around 19mpg in the city with tame driving.

I would not be happy if the MPPK pushes city economy to 17 mpg or below.

Anytime you use more power you will use more fuel.
This goes for NA engines, turbo or supercharged.

The MPG benefit to turbo/supercharging is that you can have a smaller displacement engine that can produce larger displacement power.
So if you drive with lighter throttle applications you get the benefit of a smaller displacement engine with plenty of power to move you in normal traffic situations.
Then, when you want more power you can have it with larger throttle applications and the turbo/supercharged engine will effectively put out as if it were a larger engine.
That is when MPG goes down, simply because you are calling on the engine to produce more power, and to produce more power it will suck in more air, pressurize it to effectively pack air in as if it were a larger engine, and that additional air will need more fuel to produce the power you want.

Any tune should let you get the same MPG as before the tune, if and when you drive it with lighter throttle applications.
If you typically use around 150hp/150lb ft to accelerate under normal driving, then you will use a certain amount of fuel. So even if you have a tune to give your engine a higher potential power output, that doesn't mean that you will be using more power under the same normal driving conditions.
Only when you want to use the greater power will you use more fuel.
It's all under your control.

In some engines a tune has shown a slight increase in MPG when driving normally compared to stock, but that isn't always the case.
BMW says that average MPG remains the same with the PPK, and it will as long as you don't call on the greater power now available. If you do, then average MPG will be lower, no getting around that.

Typically though when a driver gets a higher power tune they want to experience it and enjoy it. That's why average MPG tends to drop once a tune gets installed. It's simply because the driver is getting into the throttle more and more often to enjoy the added power, not because the tune hurts average MPG during normal driving.
Once the newness of the tune fades the cars average MPG goes up as the driver settles in and doesn't use the added power most or all of the time.
When the driver returns to normal/typical throttle use the average MPG goes back up.

Your best MPG control is your throttle foot. Using it better with more precision will give you best average MPG, tune or stock.
Adding a few PSI to your tires if you do more highway miles can also help.

[vitriol]

Originally Posted by Mobster1983

It feels like there's a lot of bad info on here. The impression I got fort he MPPK memo was the MY 2014 cars. There is no reason why 2013 cars would change from one month to the other. Does anyone have a MY2014 335i that had the MPPK installed? I didn't see anyone specifically mention that.

I'm trying to sort through all of it too.

If you go back a couple of pages there's a couple of people saying a new DME was put into production 07/2013 (MEVD176G), and subsequent cars (MY13 and 14), use this new DME.

That seems plausible to me.

So what we're waiting to hear -- those of us with a car produced prior to 7/13 -- is this:
1) Do we get new DME if we buy MPPK?
or
2) Do we just live with old version of MPPK?

Obviously 1 is preferable to 2.

And if you happen to have bought an MPPK before the new DME, you'r probably wondering if BMW will do the right thing and upgrade your DME and PPK free.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by trey100

My dealer says it is not an option on his list. Bmwusa accessories site also only shows it for up to July builds. Anyone with an August build that ordered it?

I just looked at the BMW site and confirm it shows the kit for 335i for production dates between 11/2012 to 07/2013.

Interestingly, the July 2013 bulletin says that there will be an engine management update/change BEGINNING with
July 2013 builds, and that the MPPK for those engines is expected later this year.
But it's odd that the BMW site shows the MPPK kist available for 3 built up to and including 7/2013.
The odd part is that July 2013 builds are 2014 models that supposedly have the new engine management software.
If the new software is on the July 2013 builds, then why are those cars included but not August or September?

Seems the site should list the kit for up to June 2013 builds, which would be the last of the 2013 model year.
Confusing indeed.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by vitriol

I'm trying to sort through all of it too.

If you go back a couple of pages there's a couple of people saying a new DME was put into production 07/2013 (MEVD176G), and subsequent cars (MY13 and 14), use this new DME.

That seems plausible to me.

So what we're waiting to hear -- those of us with a car produced prior to 7/13 -- is this:
1) Do we get new DME if we buy MPPK?
or
2) Do we just live with old version of MPPK?

Obviously 1 is preferable to 2.

And if you happen to have bought an MPPK before the new DME, you'r probably wondering if BMW will do the right thing and upgrade your DME and PPK free.

Yeah, you'd expect BMW to do the right thing, but then that may be expecting too much.

July 2013 starts the production of MY 2014.
July 1st has typically been the start of production for the next model year.
So, MY 2013 3's shouldn't be being built in July 2013.

And MY 2013 3's production orders stop before June, as BMW plants stop for a month to retool as necessary for the next model year, which starts July of the current year for the new model year.

My 2013 335i Msport was built in July 2012.
The F30 Msport's started MY 2013, and the beginning of the production for MY 2013 was July 2012.

Those of us who were first to get the Msport's got really screwed as the PPK's were not available until a number of months later, and now the kit's don't include our production dates at all.
We weren't able to get the PPK's included in our leases.

And, there have been 2-3 steering rack changes in just 1 year, and we don't get those upgraded racks either, which would the "right thing to do", but BMW didn't do that either.
I think the steering rack upgrades are more important that the PPK's, yet BMW doesn't seem to care about that either.

[vitriol]

Originally Posted by RPM90

Yeah, you'd expect BMW to do the right thing, but then that may be expecting too much.

July 2013 starts the production of MY 2014.
July 1st has typically been the start of production for the next model year.
So, MY 2013 3's shouldn't be being built in July 2013.

And MY 2013 3's production orders stop before June, as BMW plants stop for a month to retool as necessary for the next model year, which starts July of the current year for the new model year.

My 2013 335i Msport was built in July 2012.
The F30 Msport's started MY 2013, and the beginning of the production for MY 2013 was July 2012.

Those of us who were first to get the Msport's got really screwed as the PPK's were not available until a number of months later, and now the kit's don't include our production dates at all.
We weren't able to get the PPK's included in our leases.

And, there have been 2-3 steering rack changes in just 1 year, and we don't get those upgraded racks either, which would the "right thing to do", but BMW didn't do that either.
I think the steering rack upgrades are more important that the PPK's, yet BMW doesn't seem to care about that either.

Very thoughtful post right here.

I think you're right... but I hope you're wrong!

[btbossman]

If you have any issues im sure bmw would do their best to fix it. If not just raise hell, then they will definitely fix it

[300hp]

Why you should get PPK

CTS V Sport 420hp/430tq, 3900lbs
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...rt_first_test/

S4/335i type numbers. Not bad

[34.50]

Originally Posted by 300hp

Why you should get PPK

CTS V Sport 420hp/430tq, 3900lbs
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...rt_first_test/

S4/335i type numbers. Not bad

Doesn't sound bad at all. Like the article says, it's more slated against the 550i/E550 though. I think people here should be more concerned about the ATS

[300hp]

Originally Posted by 34.50

Doesn't sound bad at all. Like the article says, it's more slated against the 550i/E550 though. I think people here should be more concerned about the ATS

Agreed but that car weighs 3900 pounds and the S4/335i are not too far off from there. It's got a 100/100 adv too.

Not a bad showing for the S4/335i IMO

The turbo 6 will go in the ATS V which competes with the M3/M4.