2015 price action

Bmwman325 · 07-26-2014, 09:48 AM

Hey guys, I'd like to see what kind of deals people are getting these days. Right now I'm negotiating a 2015 335 M Sport with an MSRP of $57,900 and I got the dealer down to $53,500 (I think invoice is $53,265) I'm thinking this is a pretty good deal considering the 15's just started production.

NOBLE MOTORCARS · 07-26-2014, 10:28 AM

thats about right 92% of msrp is invoice... and dealer makes like a standard 250 so yea.

IndotagSwizz · 07-26-2014, 10:37 AM

lol are you serious? do you really think the dealer is only going to make $250 on a 50k+ car.... invoice, sticker price, msrp whatever you want to call it is just a label with a suggested price, it is not what they actually paid for the car.

Bmwman325 · 07-26-2014, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by IndotagSwizz

lol are you serious? do you really think the dealer is only going to make $250 on a 50k+ car.... invoice, sticker price, msrp whatever you want to call it is just a label with a suggested price, it is not what they actually paid for the car.

I have no doubt they are making money, I know that usually get an extra 2-3% kick back from BMW. The point is, what's the lowest they will go on a early production 2015.

WickedC5 · 07-26-2014, 02:12 PM

If you are at 53k out the door for a 2015, then I should definitely be able to get a 2014 335 m sport they have for 52k out the door, at my local dealer.

Bmwman325 · 07-26-2014, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedC5

If you are at 53k out the door for a 2015, then I should definitely be able to get a 2014 335 m sport they have for 52k out the door, at my local dealer.

I'd take MSRP and multiply it by .88 and start there.

claykin · 07-26-2014, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmwman325

I'd take MSRP and multiply it by .88 and start there.

12% markup on a 3 series? hasn't been that way in years. More like 7-8% depending on model and options.

WickedC5 · 07-26-2014, 02:55 PM

Msrp for the 2014 im looking at is 57,600. So Ill tell them 52k out the door or im walking.

Sorry for the hijack OP. best advice is to negotiate hard and get the best deal you can. Good luck!

Bmwman325 · 07-26-2014, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by claykin

12% markup on a 3 series? hasn't been that way in years. More like 7-8% depending on model and options.

It's a starting point, plus, 2015s are rolling off assembly lines and dealers need to get rid of 2014s, I had a 2014 negotiated down to 10.4% off MSRP but ended up building one to my specs.

claykin · 07-26-2014, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmwman325

It's a starting point, plus, 2015s are rolling off assembly lines and dealers need to get rid of 2014s, I had a 2014 negotiated down to 10.4% off MSRP but ended up building one to my specs.

I think you are including incentives.

Bmwman325 · 07-27-2014, 10:38 AM

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I think you are including incentives.

As far as I know, there weren't any at that time.

JKeats · 07-27-2014, 10:59 AM

Does anyone know if there are going to be any incentives on the 2015s soon? I'm in the process of negotiating to order one and the dealer says I'll get any new incentives that come out before I take delivery. I wouldn't imagine there will be any by September? He insists there usually is and I think its BS.

Also, if I negotiate to $X over invoice, should that be before the MACO and training fee (i.e. should I be paying invoice + $X + MACO/Training)?

Thanks - new to BMW and buying a new car as have lived in NYC most of my life.

m3eng · 07-28-2014, 06:12 AM

I ordered my 2015 335i and it is landing in USA within a week. MSRP was 56.2k and I got 53k out the door (including VA taxes+fees). I believe its about 10% off MSRP with incentives (before taxes and fees).

NOBLE MOTORCARS · 07-28-2014, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by IndotagSwizz

lol are you serious? do you really think the dealer is only going to make $250 on a 50k+ car.... invoice, sticker price, msrp whatever you want to call it is just a label with a suggested price, it is not what they actually paid for the car.

calm your tits, not dealer, i meant the sales guy

fecurtis · 07-28-2014, 03:15 PM

You take the MSRP and multiply it by .93 to get to invoice.

OP, the deal seems pretty solid. There are no major changes from 2014 to 2015 so I'm not surprised you got such a deal, it's fairly common.

Dealers usually don't make much money off most new car sales, their cash cow is service and parts.

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IndotagSwizz Major 525 Rep 1,232 Posts Drives: F30 320i Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Miami iTrader: (0)	lol are you serious? do you really think the dealer is only going to make $250 on a 50k+ car.... invoice, sticker price, msrp whatever you want to call it is just a label with a suggested price, it is not what they actually paid for the car. __________________
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WickedC5 Second Lieutenant 33 Rep 221 Posts Drives: 2014 335i xDrive BSM/Coral Red Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Il iTrader: (0)	If you are at 53k out the door for a 2015, then I should definitely be able to get a 2014 335 m sport they have for 52k out the door, at my local dealer.
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WickedC5 Second Lieutenant 33 Rep 221 Posts Drives: 2014 335i xDrive BSM/Coral Red Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Il iTrader: (0)	Msrp for the 2014 im looking at is 57,600. So Ill tell them 52k out the door or im walking. Sorry for the hijack OP. best advice is to negotiate hard and get the best deal you can. Good luck!
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JKeats New Member 2 Rep 16 Posts Drives: 2015 428ix Gran Coupe Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Does anyone know if there are going to be any incentives on the 2015s soon? I'm in the process of negotiating to order one and the dealer says I'll get any new incentives that come out before I take delivery. I wouldn't imagine there will be any by September? He insists there usually is and I think its BS. Also, if I negotiate to $X over invoice, should that be before the MACO and training fee (i.e. should I be paying invoice + $X + MACO/Training)? Thanks - new to BMW and buying a new car as have lived in NYC most of my life.
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07-28-2014, 06:12 AM	#13
m3eng Private First Class 27 Rep 123 Posts Drives: 2015 335i M sport Join Date: May 2014 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	I ordered my 2015 335i and it is landing in USA within a week. MSRP was 56.2k and I got 53k out the door (including VA taxes+fees). I believe its about 10% off MSRP with incentives (before taxes and fees).
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fecurtis Banned 3262 Rep 6,299 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW 335i M-Sport Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Arlington, VA iTrader: (0)	You take the MSRP and multiply it by .93 to get to invoice. OP, the deal seems pretty solid. There are no major changes from 2014 to 2015 so I'm not surprised you got such a deal, it's fairly common. Dealers usually don't make much money off most new car sales, their cash cow is service and parts.
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