[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Timbits93

I think Havanna was replaced by Jatoba (Jabot Brown as per the press release?) if I look at BMW's world configurator.

Thanks for the tip. And, yes, it looks like you are right. Using that same configurator, it also appears that Platinum Silver replaces Orion Silver while Mediterranean Blue has displaced Sparkling Bronze (though I don't know if I'd call that one a replacement, strictly speaking).

[tony176000]

Visually this is a pretty mild makeover. Only a test drive will tell, but I'm worried about the suspension tweaks. My E90 was definitely more tidy in the handling department.

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by xlover

Do we think BMW will share the details of the suspension changes, I am curious what changed for RWD and very interested in Xdrive models...

I suppose tho based on how much confusion still exists around xdrive vs RWD suspensions i doubt they will detail it out. (not asking for information, just commenting on how this board has to constantly answer questions on suspensions because BMW does not make it clear online or in their print materials)

As soon as the LCI is on the parts system we will know what changed.
So 1 June or 1 July

xdrive vs RWD can be looked up now for pre-LCI

[cb804]

Anyone know about any new wheel styles for the 340? On the global BMW site, the visualizer is up and it shows style 398 wheels in black/dark gray.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...ml?#visualizer

[clemsonkev]

REPHRASED: 340i price speculation compared to C450?

[rambalu80]

Originally Posted by clemsonkev

340i price compared to C450?

I don't think pricing information is available yet for the 340i.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by clemsonkev

REPHRASED: 340i price speculation compared to C450?

The 340i will be priced competitively against the C400. The C450 and B9 S4 will have base MSRP > $50k.

[clemsonkev]

right.... the C450 should start at 52-54k. The C400 (base price of $49,515).....

With 320hp, hopefully we see the 340i start at 47k.

Hoping a ~370hp M340i is coming with ~54k base. Need to fill the gap between the M3 IMO.

[clemsonkev]

..... or I'll just take a 340i with a Cobb tune to that new engine good for 400hp

[ny325]

Hopefully the f30 feels more solid on the road. Also, I hope the steering doesn't feel rubbery. I googled the 2018. 3 series, and I will say it looks much nicer than the current 3 series.

[autopal]

Originally Posted by clemsonkev

right.... the C450 should start at 52-54k. The C400 (base price of $49,515).....

With 320hp, hopefully we see the 340i start at 47k.

Hoping a ~370hp M340i is coming with ~54k base. Need to fill the gap between the M3 IMO.

There will be no M340i until the new 3er in 2018. BMW doesn't see the need now, as the M3 is just 425hp. The Germans are adamant that there needs to be at least 100hp difference between their high performance models (M3/M4 AMG C63 etc) and their top regular models. The C450 is roughly 100hp less than the base 63, and its a similar case with this new 340i. Its all mind games though, as BMW advertise the 340xi 0-60 as 4.6 seconds, thats a very powerful 320 hp engine!

[SamS]

Originally Posted by ny325

I googled the 2018. 3 series, and I will say it looks much nicer than the current 3 series.

Your Google must have a time machine setting.

[Xtabi]

Originally Posted by SamS

Your Google must have a time machine setting.

Google not only mines your personal data but they also have infiltrated the deepest levels of BMW. Amazing!

[Pauleebe]

Originally Posted by ny325

Hopefully the f30 feels more solid on the road. Also, I hope the steering doesn't feel rubbery. I googled the 2018. 3 series, and I will say it looks much nicer than the current 3 series.

No one is going to rumor that an upcoming model looks worse than the current one.

I think the current 3 series is beautiful but to each their own, I guess.

[SamS]

Originally Posted by Xtabi

Google not only mines your personal data but they also have infiltrated the deepest levels of BMW. Amazing!

Upon further thought.. The MY2018 3er should look identical to the MY2016. So, technically his comment makes sense. 😀

[Xtabi]

Originally Posted by SamS

Upon further thought.. The MY2018 3er should look identical to the MY2016. So, technically his comment makes sense. 😀

I guess the new headlights will not make the cut after all. I knew I should have consulted Google for the definitive answer!

[Score04]

Originally Posted by clemsonkev

..... or I'll just take a 340i with a Cobb tune to that new engine good for 400hp

COBB doesn't tune for F30 models. Would be nice though!

[tallshortguy]

Originally Posted by clemsonkev

right.... the C450 should start at 52-54k. The C400 (base price of $49,515).....

With 320hp, hopefully we see the 340i start at 47k.

Hoping a ~370hp M340i is coming with ~54k base. Need to fill the gap between the M3 IMO.

47k? I highly doubt BMW is planning a 3k+ price bump for an LCI even with some mild new standard equipment.

[clemsonkev]

Originally Posted by Score04

COBB doesn't tune for F30 models. Would be nice though!

Cobb working on it? SO much easier than the JB4 that you have to fight with before every visit to the dealer (if under warranty)!!

And 47k on the 340i wouldn't surprise me given the new headlights! (sarcasm)

I'll hold my LCI opinion until test drives tell us what the tweaks to the suspension and steering yield.

[macagain]

Originally Posted by autopal

There will be no M340i until the new 3er in 2018. BMW doesn't see the need now, as the M3 is just 425hp. The Germans are adamant that there needs to be at least 100hp difference between their high performance models (M3/M4 AMG C63 etc) and their top regular models. The C450 is roughly 100hp less than the base 63, and its a similar case with this new 340i. Its all mind games though, as BMW advertise the 340xi 0-60 as 4.6 seconds, thats a very powerful 320 hp engine!

So, how'd you explain the M235i at 320bhp and the M2 reported to come out at 365bhp? (Ok 365 is just rumored at this point, but we know it'll definitely be quite a bit less than the M3/4's 425, so 365 is certainly plausible.)

[clemsonkev]

Originally Posted by macagain

So, how'd you explain the M235i at 320bhp and the M2 reported to come out at 365bhp? (Ok 365 is just rumored at this point, but we know it'll definitely be quite a bit less than the M3/4's 425, so 365 is certainly plausible.)

Agreed. M235i is a great success. M340i would be too. And a few websites have spy photos of what they believe is the M340i testing. Google it.

[Score04]

Originally Posted by clemsonkev

Cobb working on it? SO much easier than the JB4 that you have to fight with before every visit to the dealer (if under warranty)!!

And 47k on the 340i wouldn't surprise me given the new headlights! (sarcasm)

I'll hold my LCI opinion until test drives tell us what the tweaks to the suspension and steering yield.

I don't think so. Since 2012 they haven't cracked any new tunes. German engineering might have topped their intelligence and noticed how much advertisement and attention has them on mustang ecoboost, Ford Focus st, and Ford Fiesta st. Cobb would be excellent for f30.