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      03-30-2016, 03:31 PM   #45
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wow moral of this story is it sucks to drive in Virginia. jail time for speeding?!?! that's ridiculous.
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wow moral of this story is it sucks to drive in Virginia. jail time for speeding?!?! that's ridiculous.
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The tolerance in VA is absurdly low. Never exceed the speed limit by more than 5mph.
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wow moral of this story is don't live in Virginia.

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wow moral of this story is it sucks to drive in Virginia. jail time for speeding?!?! that's ridiculous
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Did a burnout and a cop noticed, yeah I know....stupid. Got s lawyer went from 9 points (reckless,failure to maintain lane, speeding) to 2 points for improver turn signal lol. Got the 2 points dropped online
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I got a reckless back in January. The cop was a total dick and didnt want to listen to a word i had to say because I was a 19 year old driving a BMW. I overtook a guy who kept brake checking me and a cop saw my overtaking him (It was double lane). These were his exact words "I had to go 90 to catch up to you." First of all why in the world would he go 90 mph cutting through traffic to get to me (he turned on his lights when he got close to me). Second of all he didnt have a reading of my speed and got pissed that i had a radar. lastly, he had no proof of me speeding or driving reckless.

Got a lawyer, went to court and got dropped down to unsafe driving. He probably had to reach his stupid quota. I swear some of New Jersey's finest have nothing better to do!
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I got a reckless back in January. The cop was a total dick and didnt want to listen to a word i had to say because I was a 19 year old driving a BMW. I overtook a guy who kept brake checking me and a cop saw my overtaking him (It was double lane). These were his exact words "I had to go 90 to catch up to you." First of all why in the world would he go 90 mph cutting through traffic to get to me (he turned on his lights when he got close to me). Second of all he didnt have a reading of my speed and got pissed that i had a radar. lastly, he had no proof of me speeding or driving reckless.

Got a lawyer, went to court and got dropped down to unsafe driving. He probably had to reach his stupid quota. I swear some of New Jersey's finest have nothing better to do!
You're upset that a policeman pulled you over for passing someone in a no passing zone (regardless of circumstances that understandably he wouldn't know about)? Admittedly, you did convey that you're 19. Lots to learn yet, young one!
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I swear some of New Jersey's finest have nothing better to do!
I'm not pretending I never speed; most people do. But weaving around traffic and driving aggressively--especially with escalating aggressiveness between two drivers--is the textbook definition of reckless driving, and troopers should absolutely be citing drivers for it.

Maybe it seemed harmless to you, and perhaps it was relatively benign. But just because a cop wasn't able to get a fixed reading on your speed doesn't mean you're innocent. And if you lost a friend or loved one to an aggressive driver, your outlook might be different.
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I got a reckless back in January. The cop was a total dick and didnt want to listen to a word i had to say because I was a 19 year old driving a BMW. I overtook a guy who kept brake checking me and a cop saw my overtaking him (It was double lane). These were his exact words "I had to go 90 to catch up to you." First of all why in the world would he go 90 mph cutting through traffic to get to me (he turned on his lights when he got close to me). Second of all he didnt have a reading of my speed and got pissed that i had a radar. lastly, he had no proof of me speeding or driving reckless.

Got a lawyer, went to court and got dropped down to unsafe driving. He probably had to reach his stupid quota. I swear some of New Jersey's finest have nothing better to do!
And, he was brake checking you for absolutely no reason at all, of course? You definitely were not tailgating him.
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I got a reckless back in January. The cop was a total dick and didnt want to listen to a word i had to say because I was a 19 year old driving a BMW. I overtook a guy who kept brake checking me and a cop saw my overtaking him (It was double lane). These were his exact words "I had to go 90 to catch up to you." First of all why in the world would he go 90 mph cutting through traffic to get to me (he turned on his lights when he got close to me). Second of all he didnt have a reading of my speed and got pissed that i had a radar. lastly, he had no proof of me speeding or driving reckless.

Got a lawyer, went to court and got dropped down to unsafe driving. He probably had to reach his stupid quota. I swear some of New Jersey's finest have nothing better to do!
And, he was brake checking you for absolutely no reason at all, of course? You definitely were not tailgating him.
He was brake checking me because I was trying to pass him. While I was trying to pass him he was speeding up as well. He was also on the left lane which is a passing lane and I tried to pass him from the right lane.
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How do 19 year olds have 3-year old bmws?
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He was brake checking me because I was trying to pass him. While I was trying to pass him he was speeding up as well. He was also on the left lane which is a passing lane and I tried to pass him from the right lane.
Sounds like you deserved the ticket? Drive safe.
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Quick question do cops write down basically everything I said to them?
Yep, worse yet, they might even have a body-cam these days.

Reckless driving is very subjective and therefore, hard to prove.

The thing is, you don't know what else he has, maybe he did write down how fast you were going or "tag" you with the radar. You also don't know what he wrote down or recorded from your conversation, but not a bad idea to bet he got everything.

So only you really know whether or not they "have you" and whether you can benefit from having a lawyer.
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Did a burnout and a cop noticed, yeah I know....stupid.
Burn outs are fun but not fun enough for a misdemeanor /crime.....

Good thing your lawyer got it down to a moving violation / traffic citation
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How do 19 year olds have 3-year old bmws?
Wealthy relatives buying them cars or they've saved up every dime they ever made knowing they one day wanted to spend it on something nice.
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Did a burnout and a cop noticed, yeah I know....stupid.
Burn outs are fun but not fun enough for a misdemeanor /crime.....

Good thing your lawyer got it down to a moving violation / traffic citation
Yeah and honestly it was a super shitty burn out. He gave me reckless because I could have "killed someone" which is probably true if it wasn't 4:30 in the morning with no one else but my brother on the road with me.

OP get a lawyer and get your charge dropped to the highest fine, lowest point combination. Good luck.
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He was brake checking me because I was trying to pass him. While I was trying to pass him he was speeding up as well. He was also on the left lane which is a passing lane and I tried to pass him from the right lane.
Oh--ok. I see now how it was totally on him.
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I would definitely hire some legal help. It's a misdemeanor in my state and you would almost certainly lose your license for six months. I would try to get it knocked down to a moving violation or less. I got the exact same ticket a few years ago in Virginia and when I got to court with my lawyer I watched them toss the book at people until my turn where I got it reduced presumably because I had a lawyer.
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Reckless in VA is a whole different ball game.

GET A LAWYER NOW.

For those who don't know, here's why:

http://jalopnik.com/never-speed-in-v...-in-1613604053
Wow just read that, never going to drive in fucking VA that's for sure. I guess the good old south starts right past DC...
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Get a lawyer and hope for the best.

In my area (Long Island) a lawyer can almost always reduce you to just a fine with no points. In my county specifically you don't even see a judge first, you see a DA and they just offer you a lower offense of the bat in hoping you'll just pay it and won't fight it.

That being said I stopped speeding as much, I stick to the usual 10 over on the highway like everyone else and 5 over on the local 30 roads.

The most edgy thing I do now I have no front plate lol, but I think I've passed every kind of cop in my area with it in and no one seems to give a shit, who knows, maybe its because I'm not speeding.
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He was brake checking me because I was trying to pass him. While I was trying to pass him he was speeding up as well. He was also on the left lane which is a passing lane and I tried to pass him from the right lane.
Sounds to me like you're the one who was a dick.

If you need to go 90 to pass someone then you were both already traveling fast enough. If he was going even 60 in a 55 you would have had to do 70 at the most to pass.

You were already speeding (my guess 20 over, based on a 55 limit) and you wanted to go even faster. Please park mommy and daddy's BMW until you learn some responsibility.
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it annoys me when people feel the need to police the roads. if there's two lanes and you have space on the right to travel or you see someone wants to go faster behind you on the left then just move over. enough of this "you're traveling fast enough" first off, the left is not a traveling lane but a PASSING lane. that's it! move over and let those that want to speed, speed and if they get caught by the police so be it. that's why we have police, to POLICE the roads. now if it's a one lane road that's a different story
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