Hell Yes, the BMW N20 Engine is Tuneable Says Kelleners with 294 HP / 310 LB-FT Tune

AndreyATC · 11-15-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebra99

That's great news considering the car from factory is about 11k less
then the 335i which is pushing 306hp/300trq. That's means with one simple tune it may even be better and faster

And has better mpg

Merose · 11-15-2011, 07:03 PM

I'd take a I6 over a T4 any day. If you want to tune a 4 banger buy JDM. BMW is taking a step down IMHO. You can never replace the sound and feel of a 6 cylinder with a 4 banger.

justinnum1 · 11-15-2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Merose

I'd take a I6 over a T4 any day. If you want to tune a 4 banger buy JDM. BMW is taking a step down IMHO. You can never replace the sound and feel of a 6 cylinder with a 4 banger.

It won't be as smooth, but i doubt the driving experience will be any worse. The fact that you can spend 800 bucks and the car will have similar output to the 335 is impressive.

berserkerx · 11-15-2011, 07:19 PM

Ugh I love my N52, but if the new turbo 4 can achieve numbers like that this easily that is hard to turn down!!

USC2000 · 11-15-2011, 07:26 PM

Looking pretty good so far.

52bmw330ci · 11-15-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Merose

I'd take a I6 over a T4 any day. If you want to tune a 4 banger buy JDM. BMW is taking a step down IMHO. You can never replace the sound and feel of a 6 cylinder with a 4 banger.

^ THIS times a 100000000000

M3WC · 11-15-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by justinnum1

It won't be as smooth, but i doubt the driving experience will be any worse. The fact that you can spend 800 bucks and the car will have similar output to the 335 is impressive.

It is only the 28i and 30i guys saying this. Fact is tune-ability of those cars blow.

This engine is probably going to be one of BMW's best decisions in a long time. It will sell them a lot of cars.

AndreyATC · 11-15-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JetBlack5OC

It is only the 28i and 30i guys saying this. Fact is tune-ability of those cars blow.

This engine is probably going to be one of BMW's best decisions in a long time. It will sell them a lot of cars.

Agreed
It was ok to drive e46 with NA I6, but this pig needs more juice and preferably down low
Every time i drive 328i loaner, i'm ready to curse at that thing
It just wont move
I think it's a great engine with great range and output
My vote goes for this 4 banger for sure

bimmer2008 · 11-15-2011, 08:20 PM

I see a potential Evo/Sti killer

111R · 11-15-2011, 08:58 PM

I wonder how much less the 328i will weigh than the 335i? That will also make a difference. Knowing BMW, they'll give the 328i smaller brakes, tires/wheels, etc., so those may need upgrades with more power.

shanecarmaster1 · 11-15-2011, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 52bmw330ci

^ THIS times a 100000000000

NO. x1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

That's what I enjoy the most about my car - the sound and the natural feeling from the I6. Why do you think V12s are two of them stuck together???

iwinit · 11-15-2011, 09:01 PM

If it takes a lot of money and trouble to tune it, why don't just buy a 335i? Will such a tuning shorten the engine's life?

bbg2d · 11-15-2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by iwinit

If it takes a lot of money and trouble to tune it, why don't just buy a 335i? Will such a tuning shorten the engine's life?

This I want to know. I run JB on my e92 35 with no problems, but it's not a super-agressive tune. Under $1k for 50hp? Not too expensive. So long as the stock engine can handle it.

Dom the Bomb · 11-15-2011, 09:37 PM

It will be close to a stock 335i
But a tuned one no way bigger power plant with a six. There are n54 hitting over 500 rwhp. with RB turbo upgrades.

Envyscorpio · 11-15-2011, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Merose

I'd take a I6 over a T4 any day. If you want to tune a 4 banger buy JDM. BMW is taking a step down IMHO. You can never replace the sound and feel of a 6 cylinder with a 4 banger.

I think that is why BMW still offers x35i engine. I6 TT. Get that instead and do a bit tuning then you'll have something in the 360 to 400 range

PostModernHero · 11-15-2011, 10:04 PM

WAHOO!! Let's overdrive an already overdriven engine and watch the reliablilty go even further down the xitter...

Q4P · 11-15-2011, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by samchoi604

sweet.. it's like the Lancer Evolution engine: small 2.0 turbo inline-4 with a ton of power.

Let's not even compare those two engines for obvious reasons... they are on different levels; one has a cast iron block and we know can make 1300 WHP in it's full form; this won't be even close.

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Originally Posted by JetBlack5OC

I will gladly purchase a 328i over 335i. Single turbo 4-cylinders are a lot of fun. Something is very satisfying squeezing big hp out of 4-cylinders.

A turbo 4 still won't produce the satisfying down low TQ that a turbo 6 can.

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Originally Posted by bimmer2008

I see a potential Evo/Sti killer

LOL

, I won't even comment on this for obvious reasons.

b0bab0i · 11-15-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmer2008

I see a potential Evo/Sti killer

Pretty sure it won't be. The turbo is so tiny.

Greenkirby21 · 11-15-2011, 10:19 PM

This has great potential. The only problem I have with my 128i is the lack of power. No, I cannot afford a 135i, but its hard to make any extra gains. With exhaust and intake + chip, a 128i can only make about 260 hp, if that at all.

Time to start saving up my pennies : )

Mahzari · 11-15-2011, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by E92LNGCGY

Nice. Those are some decent gains it'll give a normal 35 engine a run for it's money. Imagine a down pipe, exhaust and intake. I can see this motoring handle 350 hp with full bolt on.

It could but why would you spend the money on full bolts on? The only reason to get a 28i is to save money. If you're dropping a few grand, get a 35i and spend less than $500 on a tune, which will net over 350hp.

For a tune only (which is where I'd stop because it's the most cost effective), these numbers are amazing

cloakster · 11-15-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahzari

It could but why would you spend the money on full bolts on? The only reason to get a 28i is to save money. If you're dropping a few grand, get a 35i and spend less than $500 on a tune, which will net over 350hp.

For a tune only (which is where I'd stop because it's the most cost effective), these numbers are amazing

Agreed, the new 28i engine + tune will be incredible for the price, but anything more and you might as well have bought a 35i.

crispyturtle · 11-16-2011, 12:02 AM

Soo where and when can I get this?
I have a 328 and need the power

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