BMW Remote - preheat car? (for f30)

andyca · 01-19-2016, 08:54 AM

Both Look like interesting options, I was looking into the Kenlowe electric plug-in Preheating system as my cold starts would almost always be from home where I have an outside plug. However, something has changed!

My 335d is heating up much faster! Within a couple of minutes on idle I am getting warm air through, less than a minute if I start driving. Within a mile from the house it's hot.

I cleared the ice from my windscreen this morning within 3 minutes just with the standard windscreen de-mister. I think a Thermostat might have been stuck and now I've done a few hundred miles it's freed up.

jimboi · 01-25-2016, 04:00 PM

on my remote i can pre heat the car, well take the chill off! set the ac etc from the remote on my iphone.

Mattt1 · 01-31-2016, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jimboi

on my remote i can pre heat the car, well take the chill off! set the ac etc from the remote on my iphone.

Unless you've got something special, you can't do that - you can only turn on the fans (no A/C, no heat).

Professor///M · 02-01-2016, 07:29 AM

I don't know what the issue is here. Unless it's sub zero temperatures, my car's heater generally activates within 2-3 minutes of driving; My heated seats work in less than 60 seconds.

I generally have to turn down the heat dial within 5 miles of driving.

The driving procedure should be - turn on car, wait for RPMs to go under 1000, and drive off.

Maybe you all have a problem with your heaters or some sort of realistic expectation of when the heat kicks in.

gthanson · 02-03-2016, 01:21 PM

Where I live I get up and go to work at 5am, it's not uncommon for the temperature to dip to -30 C° or lower. The thought of being able to take some of that edge off prior to leaving my apartment and hiking across the parking lot is an appealing one.

murrays · 02-03-2016, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CIWS

A few minutes won't make any real difference as compared to sitting in daily commute traffic stopped or creeping. Agreed that idling the engine for extended periods is essentially the same as wearing the engine in place and not good, but I think andyca is doing this mainly in wintertime with the cold and the frost and just the few minutes won't really matter. I certainly think it's better than a lot of folks I see who start their car up cold and just take off and soon as they can get it into gear with no regard how they're treating it.

The difference, from what I've read, is that a warm engine idling will more completely burn the fuel completely where a cold engine will not. The engine will warm up faster by driving it gently and result in less fuel contamination of the oil in the cylinders.

Source: http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...-harms-engine/

Zermatt · 02-07-2017, 10:48 PM

The more I read about auxiliary heating systems, the more I want to undertake this install. In some markets BMW offers as an option but unfortunately I have not been able to find the part numbers on RealOEM.com.

I found that Eberspacher is also a manufacturer for BMW heaters (in addition to Webasco). M&L Automobile in Germany sells retrofit kits.

LlaVud · 09-13-2019, 09:46 AM

Use a Webasto TSL 17.

A kit like this, from any dealer, or even ebay
https://shopcummins.com/products/web...SABEgJLkPD_BwE

I have one installed in my 2004 Jetta TDI, (hope my attachments worked)
I plan to install one into my new 2014 328d.

muffking · 09-15-2019, 06:06 AM

Or just let the EGR do it's job.... Oh hang on!

kombinator-318 · 11-06-2019, 07:18 AM

Hi,

I have managed to install a Webasto heater in the F30 with the ability to start it via the Connected Drive App. Your Local BMW Dealer would say that this is only possible with the 5 or 7 series vehicle but not the 1 and 3 (F20/F30).
I show how to start it either with the iDrive Menu, the webasto remote control or even the Connected Drive App.

Here is an example:

I have written a manual how you can achieve this even with a cheap Evo 5/5+ branded heater. You do not need to buy the universal kit.

If you are interested write me an email:
webastoheaterf30@gmail.com and you will get the document.

Regards,
kombinator-318

GenXer · 12-01-2019, 04:38 AM

I'm waiting for a remote start module to become available for the 2019 model. The installer said their latest unit will only work up to 2016 BMW.

I just had my 2019 Hyundai hybrid installed with Compustar using OEM proximity key fob to start the car.

To me, a preheating system seems overly complicated and expensive for North America.

01-19-2016, 08:54 AM	#23
andyca 1st time BMW owner 5 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 2016 F30 335d Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: UK - South East iTrader: (0)	Both Look like interesting options, I was looking into the Kenlowe electric plug-in Preheating system as my cold starts would almost always be from home where I have an outside plug. However, something has changed! My 335d is heating up much faster! Within a couple of minutes on idle I am getting warm air through, less than a minute if I start driving. Within a mile from the house it's hot. I cleared the ice from my windscreen this morning within 3 minutes just with the standard windscreen de-mister. I think a Thermostat might have been stuck and now I've done a few hundred miles it's freed up.
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01-25-2016, 04:00 PM	#24
jimboi New Member 0 Rep 5 Posts Drives: 335i 2013 F30 Msport + Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	on my remote i can pre heat the car, well take the chill off! set the ac etc from the remote on my iphone.
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Professor///M Brigadier General 819 Rep 3,341 Posts Drives: 2022 M3, 2022 X5 40i; Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northeast iTrader: (5) Garage List 2022 BMW M3 Comp. [0.00] 2016 BMW X5 35i [10.00]	I don't know what the issue is here. Unless it's sub zero temperatures, my car's heater generally activates within 2-3 minutes of driving; My heated seats work in less than 60 seconds. I generally have to turn down the heat dial within 5 miles of driving. The driving procedure should be - turn on car, wait for RPMs to go under 1000, and drive off. Maybe you all have a problem with your heaters or some sort of realistic expectation of when the heat kicks in.
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02-03-2016, 01:21 PM	#27
gthanson New Member 4 Rep 13 Posts Drives: 2016 F30 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Ontario, Canada iTrader: (0)	Where I live I get up and go to work at 5am, it's not uncommon for the temperature to dip to -30 C° or lower. The thought of being able to take some of that edge off prior to leaving my apartment and hiking across the parking lot is an appealing one.
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02-07-2017, 10:48 PM	#29
Zermatt Second Lieutenant 87 Rep 220 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Bozeman, MT iTrader: (1)	Wintertime Vehicle Pre-Heating The more I read about auxiliary heating systems, the more I want to undertake this install. In some markets BMW offers as an option but unfortunately I have not been able to find the part numbers on RealOEM.com. I found that Eberspacher is also a manufacturer for BMW heaters (in addition to Webasco). M&L Automobile in Germany sells retrofit kits. Attached Images Last edited by Zermatt; 02-07-2017 at 11:33 PM.. Reason: GIF ADDITION
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LlaVud Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: BMW 328d Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Utah iTrader: (0)	Webasto preheater Use a Webasto TSL 17. A kit like this, from any dealer, or even ebay https://shopcummins.com/products/web...SABEgJLkPD_BwE I have one installed in my 2004 Jetta TDI, (hope my attachments worked) I plan to install one into my new 2014 328d. Attached Images
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muffking Regular user 224 Rep 965 Posts Drives: F30 330D M-Sport Auto Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lincs. UK iTrader: (3) Garage List 2014 BMW 330D [0.00] 2006 Honda CBR1000R ... [0.00]	Or just let the EGR do it's job.... Oh hang on! __________________
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11-06-2019, 07:18 AM	#32
kombinator-318 New Member 5 Rep 10 Posts Drives: 325d Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: DE iTrader: (0)	Hi, I have managed to install a Webasto heater in the F30 with the ability to start it via the Connected Drive App. Your Local BMW Dealer would say that this is only possible with the 5 or 7 series vehicle but not the 1 and 3 (F20/F30). I show how to start it either with the iDrive Menu, the webasto remote control or even the Connected Drive App. Here is an example: I have written a manual how you can achieve this even with a cheap Evo 5/5+ branded heater. You do not need to buy the universal kit. If you are interested write me an email: webastoheaterf30@gmail.com and you will get the document. Regards, kombinator-318
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12-01-2019, 04:38 AM	#33
GenXer Major 1363 Rep 1,031 Posts Drives: Like a bat out of hell. Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: here and there iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 Chevrolet Volt [0.00] 2020 Chevrolet Tahoe [0.00]	I'm waiting for a remote start module to become available for the 2019 model. The installer said their latest unit will only work up to 2016 BMW. I just had my 2019 Hyundai hybrid installed with Compustar using OEM proximity key fob to start the car. To me, a preheating system seems overly complicated and expensive for North America.
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