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Also has a dedicated 3D GPU. New Nav has real 3D elements, but don't quite envision Google Earth here. Its still somewhat old school 3D for the most part. Some of the Nav 3D elements are handy and can be useful in locating your destination. Maybe, if you are willing to stare at an LCD when your eyes should be on the road. The new system also has some menu improvements which are arguably nice. Quote:
New system will get the same over time. BMW is unlikely trying to replace users tablets. Its a car and will stay a car infotainment system. That's all! Quote:
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Oh, I'm sure they changed the wiring harness and other connectivity enough to make this a painful project.
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Remember, its a car and BMW needs to maintain that driver focus is on the road. Let users use their phones/tablets to do the other "distracting" stuff. |
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Why do they upgrade all that hardware but not improve the resolution of the screen? That would make this a must have upgrade. It would also be cool if there was an HDMI input, so you could hook up your phone to the display. Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not saying it's a bad thing. If the apps BMW offers really enhance the experience then I'll admit that's great. I for one could care less about twitter or facebook or whatever social media one can access. I enjoy mobile apps most when it extends the capability of a device, for example foxfi (free unrooted tether) or flixster (get movie times/watch trailers). I guess I'm just surprised that there's so much interest and people canceling orders just to have a snappier interface, better menu's and better social media. At a certain point hardware tends to outpace software...there really isn't a noticeable difference between a core2duo and ivy bridge from a purely UI experience, maybe if you are using software that actually utilizes it. A cell phone OTH can really benefit with new multi-core processors - power improvements, multi-tasking etc. /rant
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I would assume the OS would be on the Flash drive?
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I have a CA friend still selling 2012 7 series and he tells me that the vast majority of customers could care less about the new Nav, even the younger buyers. Quote:
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Many 13 3 series drivers are even more tech savvy. its a shame its not on the new 13s! |
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BMW has the most margin/profit in the 7-series and 5-series, so that's why they'll include it there, first. The 7er/550i/etc. include Nav as standard, so these people spending $80K+ expect the very best. They wouldn't take it kindly to learn the $40K 328i has more features and prettier graphics. The new Nav includes several improved Office functionalities that will appeal to a 7-series buyer, like voice dictation (Dragon Drive!) and pairing for two simultaneous bluetooth phones.
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Or, just simply be ok with the current nav. Reality is regardless of new or current, the actual nav upgrade is still behind what you can get on a modern smartphone.
My motivation for wanting the new upgraded system is simply to get the faster interface. The added toys are fluff and I'd likely rarely or never use them. Siri is pretty crap, and I doubt Dragon in the car is gonna be any reinvention of speech recognition (especially if BMW is not using a high quality microphone). Anyway, my phone already has txt to speech and speech recognition built in. I hardly use it. |
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In real life, it is rather snappy. You never knew just how sluggish the current Nav is until you use one that moves/scrolls/transitions just as fast as you can move the controller. The good news is that retrofit options should be available in the next 6-12 months. |
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Retrofits will be expensive and will require dealer coding that may/may not be possible. And, your new car warranty? My take is don't rely on an upgrade (as it won't make economic sense). Be OK with the current Nav or buy a model with it (or wait till 2014). |
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Well claykin was able to confirm via the parts system for us a few days ago, but now we have an eyes-on-official confirmation from a US citizen/car who picked up a November build, US-spec F30 while stationed in Germany. No new Nav.
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But but, how can we be reallllly sure? I'm just glad this whole thing is now finally...ultimately over. Even though we've all but confirmed it a month ago. Now everyone stop obsessing over this and go enjoy your amazing rides! I should be getting mine in a few days!!!
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I also just noticed this from my VIN decoding,
S6VAA *CIC ZUSTEUERUNG *CIC-Zusteuerung The new NAV is labeled as NBT, IIRC, so yes, we have the old NAV thanks to BMWNA morons, even though half of the rest of the world gets the new NAV with November production. First no MSport brakes, now no new NAV. Thanks for nothing, again, BWNA. |
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This upgrade means little. A Siri button would mean more. Car navigation is old hat that is why we have iPhones and iPads. Not to mention car manufacturers will never be able to keep up with current tech like Apple and Google. They need to use their tech in cars not try to make their own.
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