[Zangetsu]

For us bimmer owners being called "douchey", I think it's more about the way we drive...

Anyways I test drove the C450 also. Its nice. Nice interior, better material, panoramic roof is awesome. But the drive wasn't as sporty, transmission was slow, no 6 speed option, engine only sounded ok. I guess the exhaust was nice. But hey I can fix that issue easily! Lastly the cost is way more. Overall a good effort.

Originally Posted by Big Nodge

I feel the same about the MB image, and to me the interior on the C450 personifies it. This may well offend some people, but the best single word I can think of to describe it would be "douchey".

Of course that is something that is said about BMW drivers all the time! All a matter of perspective and personal taste.

[Big Nodge]

Originally Posted by Zangetsu

For us bimmer owners being called "douchey", I think it's more about the way we drive...

Anyways I test drove the C450 also. Its nice. Nice interior, better material, panoramic roof is awesome. But the drive wasn't as sporty, transmission was slow, no 6 speed option, engine only sounded ok. I guess the exhaust was nice. But hey I can fix that issue easily! Lastly the cost is way more. Overall a good effort.

Guilty, at times at least. And yeah, it's a solid competitor for the 340i and the S4 and I'm glad it's out there. Just not for me.

Originally Posted by Sodhi16

What's the best way to improve the Xdrive suspension then. I've got adaptive suspension. Change out the springs? Any suggestions

If you want to keep your adaptive suspension you could do Dinan springs and Showckware, gets good reviews on this board. My only problem there is the drop on the Dinan springs for the 340xi is 1" front 1 1/8" rear, which is a little more than I'd like given my lip, and could have the rear sagging visually. On the 335xi though I think the drop is 0.75" all around which sounds perfect to me. I'm considering doing the Dinan setup with less aggressive springs (AC Schnitzer) but I haven't seen anyone running them on the 340xi yet and I'm a little hesitant to pull the trigger until I can see what the drop would be like.

KW also have some coilovers which replace the OEM dampers obviously but retain the adaptive functionality. They are called the DDC coilovers but they are expensive, starting at $3.5k.

[Zangetsu]

Big Nodge

So the X Drive is really high up, stock. 20mm or lets call it 3/4" higher than the rwd m sport (my car). so you'll only be about .25" lower or so with Dinan Springs.

Can you measure your height from the ground to your front lip?
Lets verify stock heights!

Originally Posted by Big Nodge

Guilty, at times at least. And yeah, it's a solid competitor for the 340i and the S4 and I'm glad it's out there. Just not for me.



If you want to keep your adaptive suspension you could do Dinan springs and Showckware, gets good reviews on this board. My only problem there is the drop on the Dinan springs for the 340xi is 1" front 1 1/8" rear, which is a little more than I'd like given my lip, and could have the rear sagging visually. On the 335xi though I think the drop is 0.75" all around which sounds perfect to me. I'm considering doing the Dinan setup with less aggressive springs (AC Schnitzer) but I haven't seen anyone running them on the 340xi yet and I'm a little hesitant to pull the trigger until I can see what the drop would be like.

KW also have some coilovers which replace the OEM dampers obviously but retain the adaptive functionality. They are called the DDC coilovers but they are expensive, starting at $3.5k.

[Big Nodge]

I have about 5.75" between the ground and the bottom of the lip. I get what you are saying about it only being a little lower than RWD sport height, but I've got to imagine they measure the drop on the xDrive springs from the xDrive ride height. I don't know if I want to loose a full inch.

My bigger issue with the Dinan springs might be that the rear drops about 1/8" more. My rear wheel gap is already a little narrower than the front so I think it might look kind of funny.

[Zangetsu]

I'm wondering if that makes your car more balanced... exactly 50:50 vs 52.5:47.5
I need to remeasure my car I thought it was at 6", but maybe it was 5".

On another note, supposedly E90's 335i CG is about 1" lower than the F30's!

[goj]

Originally Posted by Sharp_Cai

Wonder if it's faster than the C450 AMG.

Probably is

[tmdals0213]

Originally Posted by Big Nodge

I have the non-rft MPSS with the track handling package. About the best street tires you can get so I don't think it's the tires. Feels like body roll to me. One of the 340xi reviews has a video of the car taking a slalom course and you can see it leaning pretty hard. YMMV, sway bars are a must for me on this car.

Still really enjoy the way it handles stock btw, just think it can be improved. Then again I pretty much always do suspension mods on my cars, part of the fun of the hobby for me.

im planning on going with kw v2.... what options have you looked into??

[Big Nodge]

Originally Posted by Zangetsu

I'm wondering if that makes your car more balanced... exactly 50:50 vs 52.5:47.5
I need to remeasure my car I thought it was at 6", but maybe it was 5".

On another note, supposedly E90's 335i CG is about 1" lower than the F30's!

I'm not sure if just comparing the ground clearance of an xDrive vs. a RWD 340i gives us much info on which is better balanced. But FYI my car has the M Performance front lip, that's why I'm particularly concerned about ground clearance. Without the lip I wouldn't worry about a 1" drop.

Originally Posted by tmdals0213

im planning on going with kw v2.... what options have you looked into??

I'm going to do the Dinan xDrive sway bars for sure. Beyond that I mentioned a bunch of the options I'm looking into above, considering them all now. V2s are a nice choice, but you loose the adaptive features which I'd prefer to keep. But I've thought about static coils as well, either KW V1s/V2s, or maybe the KW Street Comfort coils as I would be able to dial-in a less aggressive drop.

[JOE YOUNG]

[Zangetsu]

Sorry. 2 different thoughts.
I have the lip also... ground clearance measurement is just that. RWD is lower than the XDrive version. So if my car really is 20mm lower, the lip should be 20mm lower.

Balance is the second topic. Dinan lowered the back slightly more for balance. But without confirming with Dinan engineers it's just a theory.
Ideally you want to be right at 50:50. But street driving it really doesn't matter as much! haha

Originally Posted by Big Nodge

I'm not sure if just comparing the ground clearance of an xDrive vs. a RWD 340i gives us much info on which is better balanced. But FYI my car has the M Performance front lip, that's why I'm particularly concerned about ground clearance. Without the lip I wouldn't worry about a 1" drop.



I'm going to do the Dinan xDrive sway bars for sure. Beyond that I mentioned a bunch of the options I'm looking into above, considering them all now. V2s are a nice choice, but you loose the adaptive features which I'd prefer to keep. But I've thought about static coils as well, either KW V1s/V2s, or maybe the KW Street Comfort coils as I would be able to dial-in a less aggressive drop.

[Bueller178]

Originally Posted by Zangetsu

For us bimmer owners being called "douchey", I think it's more about the way we drive...

Anyways I test drove the C450 also. Its nice. Nice interior, better material, panoramic roof is awesome. But the drive wasn't as sporty, transmission was slow, no 6 speed option, engine only sounded ok. I guess the exhaust was nice. But hey I can fix that issue easily! Lastly the cost is way more. Overall a good effort.

I love how the exhaust pops on overrun in the C450.

I think the BMW has a more sporty drive and better trans but the interior (Aside from the IPAD....) is nicer on the Merc.

[Zangetsu]

Yeah I agree. The interior is nicer on the benz. The material used is nicer. Although the Bimmer seats I like a lot more, because there's more adjustments. The bimmer user interface on the idrive is better too. probably the best out there.

Originally Posted by Bueller178

I love how the exhaust pops on overrun in the C450.

I think the BMW has a more sporty drive and better trans but the interior (Aside from the IPAD....) is nicer on the Merc.

[Big Nodge]

Originally Posted by JOE YOUNG

haha fair point! Here's how it looks now, some delivery pics in the link.



http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...php?p=19915126

[Big Nodge]

Originally Posted by Zangetsu

Sorry. 2 different thoughts.
I have the lip also... ground clearance measurement is just that. RWD is lower than the XDrive version. So if my car really is 20mm lower, the lip should be 20mm lower.

Balance is the second topic. Dinan lowered the back slightly more for balance. But without confirming with Dinan engineers it's just a theory.
Ideally you want to be right at 50:50. But street driving it really doesn't matter as much! haha

Nice, can't be too many 340is with M Performance lip in NH. What color is yours?

I am not sure if this was some grand plan by Dinan or if that's how it just worked out.

[Zangetsu]

I call grand plan. They do think about their designs. They stick to their design philosophy... Function over form.

Mine's silver, black interior. Looks like yours besides the interior.