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      09-09-2013, 11:03 PM   #595
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Folks, wanted to share an update.... if you have a new car on order and are thinking about this kit, I'd strongly consider port install. My car was arriving at the port just before this was announced, so as soon as I heard about it here I called the dealer and asked for them to pull a few strings with a last-minute port install. We weren't sure if it was too late to catch it, but looks like they got it through for me. Installed price was WAY less than many here are getting quoted from their dealers. This won't help people that already have their cars, but if you are buying a new one it would be to your financial advantage to do a port install.
I made my order for the f30 335i yesterday, and now I'm contemplating on whether or not I should get it added. My Sales Person says there would be no labor charge since it would would be part of the build. Maybe he could entice me if he were to bring it below $1250.

For all you people using your f30 as daily drivers, would you still recommend this? I mean, I talked myself out of the 328i because I wanted more power (and didn't like how the N20 sounded). I know I don't "need" it, but some reason I want it. And I know I won't be tracking my car...

... So for those who aren't tracking, why are you getting the M PPK installed?
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More power , exhaust sounded alot better after MPPK .. N55 can still produce more tho
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More power , exhaust sounded alot better after MPPK .. N55 can still produce more tho
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      09-12-2013, 10:02 AM   #598
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I made my order for the f30 335i yesterday, and now I'm contemplating on whether or not I should get it added. My Sales Person says there would be no labor charge since it would would be part of the build. Maybe he could entice me if he were to bring it below $1250.

For all you people using your f30 as daily drivers, would you still recommend this? I mean, I talked myself out of the 328i because I wanted more power (and didn't like how the N20 sounded). I know I don't "need" it, but some reason I want it. And I know I won't be tracking my car...

... So for those who aren't tracking, why are you getting the M PPK installed?
I've had my PPK installed for several months now. I drove my car for many months before the PPK was released, and eagerly awaited the release date; I placed the order on GetBMWparts.com within minutes of them adding it the site when it was finally released in the US. The installation was a real nightmare (one of the first to be installed that required the DME swap, and no-one in BMW NA seemed to know what to do, see this ridiculous thread: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821701) and took the dealer a couple weeks, obviously they didn't charge me any labor. When I finally got the car back, I was pretty pleased with the result...but now, I'm used to the little bump in power and never think twice about it ( I do still enjoy the sound though). It was fun the first couple of weeks because I could notice the change after the PPK was installed because I was so familiar with the car's performance pre-PPK...I kind of wonder if it would be more "fun" to get your car and drive it as-is for awhile, and THEN install the PPK to enjoy the little bump in power and change in sound...seems like if you have the PPK from day one it wouldn't be as much "fun" because that will just be your baseline from the beginning. Just my two cents. I don't regret getting the PPK...but at this point, the novelty has long worn off and I could take it or leave it.
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I've had my PPK installed for several months now. I drove my car for many months before the PPK was released, and eagerly awaited the release date; I placed the order on GetBMWparts.com within minutes of them adding it the site when it was finally released in the US. The installation was a real nightmare (one of the first to be installed that required the DME swap, and no-one in BMW NA seemed to know what to do, see this ridiculous thread: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821701) and took the dealer a couple weeks, obviously they didn't charge me any labor. When I finally got the car back, I was pretty pleased with the result...but now, I'm used to the little bump in power and never think twice about it ( I do still enjoy the sound though). It was fun the first couple of weeks because I could notice the change after the PPK was installed because I was so familiar with the car's performance pre-PPK...I kind of wonder if it would be more "fun" to get your car and drive it as-is for awhile, and THEN install the PPK to enjoy the little bump in power and change in sound...seems like if you have the PPK from day one it wouldn't be as much "fun" because that will just be your baseline from the beginning. Just my two cents. I don't regret getting the PPK...but at this point, the novelty has long worn off and I could take it or leave it.
Hmm... So you're now without the PPK? My dealer is gonna give it to me installed at the port for $1000. What do you think?
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Hmm... So you're now without the PPK? My dealer is gonna give it to me installed at the port for $1000. What do you think?
No, I still have the PPK...I just don't notice it anymore because I'm used to it. I really noticed it and appreciated it the first few weeks because I could compare with my pre-PPK experience...but you just eventually get accustomed to it and it seems normal...so I was just wondering if it might be unimpressive if you have the PPK port-installed because you will have it from the beginning and won't be experiencing the difference or "upgrade." You can't go wrong, it does improve the performance a bit and definitely sounds better.
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I may definitely have to get this. By dealer is gonna give it to me for $1000 installed at the port, if it becomes available by then (which I hope it does). I should stop looking at the forums, because each time I do, I tend to want to add more to my build.
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      09-17-2013, 12:57 PM   #602
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Anyone have experience with the PPK and 6MT? Is the torque bump really less or is there some other reason they need to list it as that?
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If anyone reads European Car, they had a dyno of the PPK and it showed a drop in peak torque and a slight increase in HP. They questioned the results as well.

This is the same car that was pitted against the modified ATS in one of the other magazines (motor trend?). It makes sense now as that test showed the PPK car running stock like numbers in the 1/4 mile.

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That particular car had something up....those PPK numbers are especially weak (and slow). To counter the argument....what about the PPK 335i that ran the quarter in 13.0 @ 105.4? I think the PPK DOES add substantisl extra power and torque, and that European Car comparo had a flawed vehicle (or flawed PPK install).

My own PPK equipped car dyno'd (on a Dynojet) at 304 WHP and 308 lb-ft torque on a new engine with only 3000 miles. Divide those values by 0.85 and you can see what kind of crank #s those are...
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That particular car had something up....those PPK numbers are especially weak (and slow). To counter the argument....what about the PPK 335i that ran the quarter in 13.0 @ 105.4? I think the PPK DOES add substantisl extra power and torque, and that European Car comparo had a flawed vehicle (or flawed PPK install).

My own PPK equipped car dyno'd (on a Dynojet) at 304 WHP and 308 lb-ft torque on a new engine with only 3000 miles. Divide those values by 0.85 and you can see what kind of crank #s those are...
Yep. When I saw the test against the Modified ATS, I thought it was strange that the 335 PPK ran stock like but this dyno shows that something was up. 300 hp/300 lb ft of torque at the wheels is impressive.
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