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      08-24-2012, 01:47 PM   #133
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I wrote:

"Many already unnecessarily push the close door button after every single floor. My cynical self informs me these are the same people who fuss ceaselessly about pushing a single button to turn off ASS."

I suspect I was insufficiently clear. I posit both behaviors are inspired by the same impatience and exaggerated self-righteousness:
"I have to wait for the doors to close?! That's ridiculous!"
"I'll push this button a bunch of times."

"I have to push a whole entire button to turn off a function?!? That's ridiculous!"
"I'll die if I have to do this every time I drive. Starting the car already requires a button push."
Don't know what you are arguing about, when BMW itself has seen the issue and issued a new coding procedure that allows the last saved setting to be memorized.

To your example, it is not about dying by pressing a button each time, but rather being irritated that you have to press ANOTHER button EACH time you want the action.

Clear now?
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      08-24-2012, 02:02 PM   #134
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Well, after 2 days of driving with ASS enabled after getting the car updated to the latest software (ISTA/P V2.47.2), I have to say that it seems to work much better than before.

I have not had any rough/shuddering stops/restarts after about 40 ASS cycles.

The stop/starts are of course still noticeable (it's not a Prius), but it doesn't feel like a big-rig engine stopping/starting anymore.

We have long traffic signals where I live. It's actually kind of nice now to sit there not using any fuel, waiting for the green light so I can kick this thing and burn up all the gas I saved waiting at the light!
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      08-24-2012, 02:15 PM   #135
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Well, after 2 days of driving with ASS enabled after getting the car updated to the latest software (ISTA/P V2.47.2), I have to say that it seems to work much better than before.

I have not had any rough/shuddering stops/restarts after about 40 ASS cycles.

The stop/starts are of course still noticeable (it's not a Prius), but it doesn't feel like a big-rig engine stopping/starting anymore.

We have long traffic signals where I live. It's actually kind of nice now to sit there not using any fuel, waiting for the green light so I can kick this thing and burn up all the gas I saved waiting at the light!
So aside from staying in the last positon, it makes it smoother when it is on?
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      08-24-2012, 02:59 PM   #136
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So aside from staying in the last positon, it makes it smoother when it is on?
I didn't have the memory feature added; the whole car got a software update. I'm sure the memory feature won't change the behavior.

When I took it in for service and reported issues the stop/start feature, they did a software update for the whole car. So far, I think the new software actually addressed the issues I was having.

If I still don't like the feature, I'll have them add the memory feature. For now, I'm just going to leave it on and see if it's tolerable.
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      08-24-2012, 03:11 PM   #137
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I didn't have the memory feature added; the whole car got a software update. I'm sure the memory feature won't change the behavior.

When I took it in for service and reported issues the stop/start feature, they did a software update for the whole car. So far, I think the new software actually addressed the issues I was having.

If I still don't like the feature, I'll have them add the memory feature. For now, I'm just going to leave it on and see if it's tolerable.
Nice. i have 5000 miles on mine and the ASS is a lot smoother than it was the first month...
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      08-24-2012, 03:42 PM   #138
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Nice. i have 5000 miles on mine and the ASS is a lot smoother than it was the first month...
... and I have 4800, the last 3K of which were driven with ASS off.

So maybe the improvement wasn't so much because of the update change as just the engine/tranny needing more break in time.

I'm still noticing continuing better fuel economy, even after the initial 1500 mile break-in period, but that may also be more me knowing the cars sweet spots.
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      08-24-2012, 04:46 PM   #139
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. . . it is not about dying by pressing a button each time, but rather being irritated that you have to press ANOTHER button EACH time you want the action.

Clear now?
I doubt anyone has been unclear as to the whine; it is - astonishingly - all about the simple bush of a button. This has been patently obvious each time the complaint is raised, ad nauseam, and equally ludicrous each time.

Instead, I was commenting on the apparent behavioral source of the whine within the whiner. I am sorry the distinction is complicated.

Amusingly, the number of key strokes entered by each whiner while posting already equals many months, even years, of driving and - horror - pushing "ANOTHER button EACH time you want the action."

Ironic.
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      08-24-2012, 05:51 PM   #140
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What a stupid post. So if you suck on the tailpipe of a car with ASS, you are not going to choke?
I will not choke because if the ASS is on, the engine will be off during idling situation.
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      08-24-2012, 08:40 PM   #141
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I know it's on the "other" forum, but BMW has already admitted ASS destroys the car -- and they buried it. Check out this link.
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I know it's on the "other" forum, but BMW has already admitted ASS destroys the car -- and they buried it. Check out this link.
Thats the BMW law department at their best, covering their ASS
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      08-25-2012, 08:32 PM   #143
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This thread is stupid.
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