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      05-12-2012, 04:57 PM   #1
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People upgrading from an e90...

I have an 09 335i which still puts a smile on my face everyday. The lease is coming up...and I'm torn.

So from you folks who upgraded from recent model e90..is it worth it? Do you like it that much more?
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      05-12-2012, 05:17 PM   #2
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I went from a E90 2006 325i to a F30 2012 328i last month and I think it's definitely worth the upgrade.

The drive seems more smooth, the steering is more responsive, the car generally feels a lot ligher too. My old car was non-iDrive so going to iDrive with Navi and all those other features like comfort access is a big plus to me too.

I was a bit torn the day I turned in my E90 for the F30 because the delivery specialist drove my E90 trade in right passed me and said bye before I left the dealership. It was a sad farewell.
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      05-12-2012, 05:52 PM   #3
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upgraded from e90 2011, couldn't wait, love the car, totally different world.
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      05-12-2012, 06:33 PM   #4
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Anyone upgraded from the higher-end, i.e., a 2-3 year old 335 to an F30 335?
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      05-12-2012, 07:11 PM   #5
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I have an 09 335i which still puts a smile on my face everyday. The lease is coming up...and I'm torn.

So from you folks who upgraded from recent model e90..is it worth it? Do you like it that much more?
Is it worth the MSRP? Yes. Is it worth upgrading... that's really hard. I think it's going to be even harder for you as you have a N54.

The best way to equate this is to think of going out with an awesome girl and then braking up with her to date her younger more nubile sister. Everything seems really familiar/same genes/features but there are subtle differences. Some things are nice because they're "newer" and some might see it as an upgrade but there are some trade offs on things you'll remember you liked more with the older sister. I say this in jest, but that's the best analogy I can come up with.

Me personally... I returned my 2009 e90 328i lease for a 2012 f30 328i. Not apples to apples to your situation, but I'll give you my notes. The f30... it's all new and exciting, everything is tighter, and it smells nice (playing on the analogy from before). But honestly, I miss the smoothness of the inline-6, but the four-banger may be rougher but has some nice tricks that give you a grin a lot faster. I don't like that when I start up the f30, I end up having to press some extra buttons before I get goin (start/stop and sport mode) that I didn't have do with the e90 every morning. The f30's electric power steering is something I've come used to and in slow parking lots, it's easier to deal with, but I miss the feeling of the e90's hydraulic setup sometimes. Analogy here... implants?! They do the same thing functionally. They both are spectacular. Just one feels a bit more natural. My f30 seems to rotate and respond to driver input better/faster, but I was never that unhappy with the e90 either. All in all... do I miss my e90? Occassionally. Am I unsatisfied with the f30? No.

Now my wife's 2011 e90 N55 335i? Would I trade for a f30 335i? I'd probably stay with what I have. The new f30 has better brakes and is the new face on the block, but I'm completely satisfied with the e90 335i. Now there's rumors (stress rumors) that the f30 335i is hitting the gym and get a fair bit more horsepower very soon. If that's true, I may have to take her out for a ride again.

Good luck. As I said, it's gonna be really hard considering you have the N54. Let us know what you end up doing. Cheers.
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Is it worth the MSRP? Yes. Is it worth upgrading... that's really hard. I think it's going to be even harder for you as you have a N54.

The best way to equate this is to think of going out with an awesome girl and then braking up with her to date her younger more nubile sister. Everything seems really familiar/same genes/features but there are subtle differences. Some things are nice because they're "newer" and some might see it as an upgrade but there are some trade offs on things you'll remember you liked more with the older sister. I say this in jest, but that's the best analogy I can come up with.

Me personally... I returned my 2009 e90 328i lease for a 2012 f30 328i. Not apples to apples to your situation, but I'll give you my notes. The f30... it's all new and exciting, everything is tighter, and it smells nice (playing on the analogy from before). But honestly, I miss the smoothness of the inline-6, but the four-banger may be rougher but has some nice tricks that give you a grin a lot faster. I don't like that when I start up the f30, I end up having to press some extra buttons before I get goin (start/stop and sport mode) that I didn't have do with the e90 every morning. The f30's electric power steering is something I've come used to and in slow parking lots, it's easier to deal with, but I miss the feeling of the e90's hydraulic setup sometimes. Analogy here... implants?! They do the same thing functionally. They both are spectacular. Just one feels a bit more natural. My f30 seems to rotate and respond to driver input better/faster, but I was never that unhappy with the e90 either. All in all... do I miss my e90? Occassionally. Am I unsatisfied with the f30? No.

Now my wife's 2011 e90 N55 335i? Would I trade for a f30 335i? I'd probably stay with what I have. The new f30 has better brakes and is the new face on the block, but I'm completely satisfied with the e90 335i. Now there's rumors (stress rumors) that the f30 335i is hitting the gym and get a fair bit more horsepower very soon. If that's true, I may have to take her out for a ride again.

Good luck. As I said, it's gonna be really hard considering you have the N54. Let us know what you end up doing. Cheers.

Where do you hear these rumors?
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      05-12-2012, 07:41 PM   #7
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not that I want to highjack my own thread, but its logical to me that a power bump is coming. Is it for 2013...I doubt it. For 2014 when the coupe and new 1 series sedan hits is logical to this cowboy.
But this is part of the equation. Do I buy mine out for a year or when the power bump comes out.
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      05-12-2012, 07:44 PM   #8
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but...did anyone see a 2013 335 xdrive. Or was BMW just showing off the 328xi.
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      05-12-2012, 08:12 PM   #9
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Where do you hear these rumors?
Sorry. Let's call it speculation then. Lots of chatter with no hard sources.
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      05-13-2012, 06:59 AM   #10
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Is it worth the MSRP? Yes. Is it worth upgrading... that's really hard. I think it's going to be even harder for you as you have a N54.

The best way to equate this is to think of going out with an awesome girl and then braking up with her to date her younger more nubile sister. Everything seems really familiar/same genes/features but there are subtle differences. Some things are nice because they're "newer" and some might see it as an upgrade but there are some trade offs on things you'll remember you liked more with the older sister. I say this in jest, but that's the best analogy I can come up with.

Me personally... I returned my 2009 e90 328i lease for a 2012 f30 328i. Not apples to apples to your situation, but I'll give you my notes. The f30... it's all new and exciting, everything is tighter, and it smells nice (playing on the analogy from before). But honestly, I miss the smoothness of the inline-6, but the four-banger may be rougher but has some nice tricks that give you a grin a lot faster. I don't like that when I start up the f30, I end up having to press some extra buttons before I get goin (start/stop and sport mode) that I didn't have do with the e90 every morning. The f30's electric power steering is something I've come used to and in slow parking lots, it's easier to deal with, but I miss the feeling of the e90's hydraulic setup sometimes. Analogy here... implants?! They do the same thing functionally. They both are spectacular. Just one feels a bit more natural. My f30 seems to rotate and respond to driver input better/faster, but I was never that unhappy with the e90 either. All in all... do I miss my e90? Occassionally. Am I unsatisfied with the f30? No.

Now my wife's 2011 e90 N55 335i? Would I trade for a f30 335i? I'd probably stay with what I have. The new f30 has better brakes and is the new face on the block, but I'm completely satisfied with the e90 335i. Now there's rumors (stress rumors) that the f30 335i is hitting the gym and get a fair bit more horsepower very soon. If that's true, I may have to take her out for a ride again.

Good luck. As I said, it's gonna be really hard considering you have the N54. Let us know what you end up doing. Cheers.

Where do you hear these rumors?
I doubt that. BMW has imo never increased power within one year. I do believe an M335i will be introduced (probably same outfit as M135i). Furthermore, the M Performance list already displays a power kit which will be available by September, probably bringing th 335i up to M335i spec (i.e. from 306hp to 320hp).
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      05-13-2012, 07:22 AM   #11
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I doubt that. BMW has imo never increased power within one year.
They did actually.

2006 323i 174HP
2006 325i 215HP

2007 323i 200HP
2007 328i 230HP

Not mentioning the 330i/335i...
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      05-13-2012, 07:30 AM   #12
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I have an 09 335i which still puts a smile on my face everyday. The lease is coming up...and I'm torn.

So from you folks who upgraded from recent model e90..is it worth it? Do you like it that much more?
Is it worth the MSRP? Yes. Is it worth upgrading... that's really hard. I think it's going to be even harder for you as you have a N54.

The best way to equate this is to think of going out with an awesome girl and then braking up with her to date her younger more nubile sister. Everything seems really familiar/same genes/features but there are subtle differences. Some things are nice because they're "newer" and some might see it as an upgrade but there are some trade offs on things you'll remember you liked more with the older sister. I say this in jest, but that's the best analogy I can come up with.

Me personally... I returned my 2009 e90 328i lease for a 2012 f30 328i. Not apples to apples to your situation, but I'll give you my notes. The f30... it's all new and exciting, everything is tighter, and it smells nice (playing on the analogy from before). But honestly, I miss the smoothness of the inline-6, but the four-banger may be rougher but has some nice tricks that give you a grin a lot faster. I don't like that when I start up the f30, I end up having to press some extra buttons before I get goin (start/stop and sport mode) that I didn't have do with the e90 every morning. The f30's electric power steering is something I've come used to and in slow parking lots, it's easier to deal with, but I miss the feeling of the e90's hydraulic setup sometimes. Analogy here... implants?! They do the same thing functionally. They both are spectacular. Just one feels a bit more natural. My f30 seems to rotate and respond to driver input better/faster, but I was never that unhappy with the e90 either. All in all... do I miss my e90? Occassionally. Am I unsatisfied with the f30? No.

Now my wife's 2011 e90 N55 335i? Would I trade for a f30 335i? I'd probably stay with what I have. The new f30 has better brakes and is the new face on the block, but I'm completely satisfied with the e90 335i. Now there's rumors (stress rumors) that the f30 335i is hitting the gym and get a fair bit more horsepower very soon. If that's true, I may have to take her out for a ride again.

Good luck. As I said, it's gonna be really hard considering you have the N54. Let us know what you end up doing. Cheers.
This has to be the analogy of the year!
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      05-13-2012, 07:38 AM   #13
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I had a first year E90 335i. I loved the power and I liked the car but it was never my favorite. I have an F30 328i as my daily driver. Terrific car - very integrated feel. I like it considerably better than my E90.
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