[dreamspeed]

Originally Posted by YodaSyrup

Let's face facts, BMW is designing out the unique heritage that made it special - a driver's car first and foremost. We're left with cars that have more mass appeal, technology and luxury. Are the new cars still driver centric? Yes, but less so with every new generation. Will they sell more 3's and 4's than before? They will.

Exactly, they still make great cars but they are obviously moving in a direction that will result in more sales but less passion

[Gastoys]

Originally Posted by Jblack4083

When were the 3 sedan and 3 coupe ever about the same in price. If I recall E90 vs. E92 had about a $4000 difference or so? Historically its always been about 5-7%

In 2011 my e90 was $52k while the same equipped e92 was $53k here at bellevue bmw. I am just basing my figures on the window sticker at the time. I just don't understand how a f30 fully loaded is $59k yet the same car minus two doors is $64k. $5k more, why is that.

Do a blue book value on a 2011 e90 vs 2011 e92 the difference is about $600 between the two cars equipped the same.

[newoldbeemer]

Lol does anyone take Jeremy clarkson seriously? To me he's the god of tongue-in-cheek humor and sarcasm, but I would take anything he says about cars with some salt.

[Pynne]

Originally Posted by lightyear36

Even today the A5 has a better design than the 4 series. One of the sleekest and most beautiful cars out there.

Allways been Imo!

[seamasters]

coming from someone like Jeremy Clarkson this is a very good review for the 4 series, considering he called the X6 the most ugliest BMW and X5 a piece of junk compared to the rangerovers (Whatever).

[JerezblackM3]

Originally Posted by Gitte

Did anyone else read this in Jeremy Clarkson's voice?

Hahaha I did and it came out unintentionally

[Crimefighter]

"Boring" was a criticism made of the 335i in 2006 by most of the UK press also.

TBH its probably true, but that doesn't mean there isnt a market for the car.

335i's have a big following and FWIW I think the 435i will too. It's an old school Q-car, a sleeper, like the old E30 M3 used to be.

The M3 is visually shouty these days, so the 335/435 fills the old niche nicely.

All in all, I agreed with his assessment - it isn't for everyone, but those who it is aimed at will love it.

[rave426]

So basically its a great car at being functional but does little for the senses.

Sounds like a stylish family car with just a bit of scruff. Def not for me

[DoD74]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Base price of the E9X wasn't $64k. I paid about that for my E92 with navigation, Bluetooth, EDC, ZCP, Convenience package, etc. Base price was about $54-55k!

Wow, my 2012 E92 was $54k, fully loaded. M package, Premium pkg, Winter pkg, pretty much every box checked when I ordered it. I had no idea pricing varied so much from state to state.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by DoD74

Wow, my 2012 E92 was $54k, fully loaded. M package, Premium pkg, Winter pkg, pretty much every box checked when I ordered it. I had no idea pricing varied so much from state to state.

I was referring to an E9X M3, not a 328/330/335 (..please see the post that I was responding to ). An M3 without any options starts where your fully loaded 335i left off.

[NORAGRETS]

Originally Posted by Gitte

Did anyone else read this in Jeremy Clarkson's voice?

Hahaha yes now that I think about it pretty damn funny

[F32]

Originally Posted by newoldbeemer

Lol does anyone take Jeremy clarkson seriously? To me he's the god of tongue-in-cheek humor and sarcasm, but I would take anything he says about cars with some salt.

There is a direct correlation between intelligence and the ability to dissect and comprehend sarcasm. There is also a direct correlation between stupidity and how easily someone is offended. He is not intended for a dumb and/or sensitive audience.

Everything he says hits the nail perfectly on the head.

[Law]

Originally Posted by Gitte

Did anyone else read this in Jeremy Clarkson's voice?

You win

[Haywood]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Base price of the E9X wasn't $64k. I paid about that for my E92 with navigation, Bluetooth, EDC, ZCP, Convenience package, etc. Base price was about $54-55k!

Base price of my M3 was $60,100 MSRP

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Haywood

Base price of my M3 was $60,100 MSRP

I specified an M3 without options. Every M3's base price is the same the U.S.; options no longer make it a base M3.

[Kognition]

Originally Posted by Gitte

Did anyone else read this in Jeremy Clarkson's voice?

How could you not read it in his voice with has trademark sarcasm?! Too funny though...

[335BOY]

Originally Posted by DoD74

Wow, my 2012 E92 was $54k, fully loaded. M package, Premium pkg, Winter pkg, pretty much every box checked when I ordered it. I had no idea pricing varied so much from state to state.

That car would list at about $65,000 up here.

[jtuds]

Originally Posted by lightyear36

Even today the A5 has a better design than the 4 series. One of the sleekest and most beautiful cars out there.

its nice but i'd say its a toss up….4 series is more aggressive

[BarlasaM]

Lime-green mankini....lol....really

[jtuds]

Originally Posted by Rolitto

From my own experience with fellow English friends, they TRY not to like German products unless there's no escape.

really?

[motorsport_cat]

Originally Posted by Gitte

Did anyone else read this in Jeremy Clarkson's voice?

I don't even watch much Top Gear.
I still read it in his voice... :O

[sh55]

Originally Posted by mge.92

If anyone has watched Jeremy's review of the last M5 w/ v10, it will sound familiar to this new review of the 435i. It's actually funny how Jeremy says the old M5 was the worst car on the planet at the beginning and then says once you press the M button it becomes the best car in the world. LOL

+1

I was thinking about the M5 review when I read the first few paragraphs praying it had a good ending