M3 or M4 ?

Steve_M_Sport · 08-16-2015, 03:27 PM

Still no sign of an M3 Touring ?

robwils · 08-16-2015, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve_M_Sport

Still no sign of an M3 Touring ?

Good lord No !

you'll be wanting it x drive next too

JustChris · 08-16-2015, 04:00 PM

M4, it's a coupe! Has a carbon boot! Doesn't have a cheap looking after market spoiler from an M235i. It's a coupe. Once I saw them side by side at a dealers ( and if you really don't need saloon practicality) there was a clear winner for me. Also it's not several thousand dearer the saloon version like the 4 vs 3 is actually but likely just because of the spec of the kit. It's a coupe.

JustChris · 08-16-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ukbeemerboy

M3 every time. Very usable performance car.

Yup but in my M4, takes stuff to the tip, takes family everywhere I need to go, takes 4 full sized bikes on the roof, roof box if needed, only thing for me the M3 has that's more practical is the 5th seat. My kids are 10 and 8 so perfect for getting in and out the back, lack of rear doors no problem. M3 is more practical absolutley, but suggesting an M4 and of course the 4 series in general is not is not true.

teaston · 08-16-2015, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by robwils

Totally agree about 4gc but prefer normal 6 series over the GC.
Looked at them side by side in dealers the other day.
Rob

6 series is a bit different as the 6GC is 20cm longer than the coupe. 4GC is exactly the same length as the coupe.

NISFAN · 08-16-2015, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by M Car Chris

M4, it's a coupe! Has a carbon boot! Doesn't have a cheap looking after market spoiler from an M235i. It's a coupe. Once I saw them side by side at a dealers ( and if you really don't need saloon practicality) there was a clear winner for me. Also it's not several thousand dearer the saloon version like the 4 vs 3 is actually but likely just because of the spec of the kit. It's a coupe.

Heh he, I followed a black M3 the other day, and I couldn't get Darth Vaders helmet out of my mind, those flared arches

....,,,,..,,.. · 08-16-2015, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NISFAN

Heh he, I followed a black M3 the other day, and I couldn't get Darth Vaders helmet out of my mind, those flared arches

Do you normall find yourself thinking about Darth Vaders Helmet?

Storm troopers?

Chewbacca?

roshambo · 08-16-2015, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Apl000?

M3 for me. M4 Gran Coupe would win.

Same here.

I want a M4 but I'm a sucker for practicality.

rick7591 · 08-16-2015, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

Agree the big doors on the coupe aren't good, i really noticed it in the 4 series courtesy car i had, it was quite a job getting out of the car in supermarket car parks!

I tend to open the window in my 4 series then exit when in a tight space.
Makes it easier for me cos i am on the heavy side.

teaston · 08-16-2015, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rick7591

I tend to open the window in my 4 series then exit when in a tight space.
Makes it easier for me cos i am on the heavy side.

You exit through the window!?

Beancounter_74 · 08-16-2015, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

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Originally Posted by rick7591

I tend to open the window in my 4 series then exit when in a tight space.
Makes it easier for me cos i am on the heavy side.

You exit through the window!?

I guess he means as the doors are frameless, no?

simon. · 08-17-2015, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rick7591

I tend to open the window in my 4 series then exit when in a tight space.
Makes it easier for me cos i am on the heavy side.

My old 135i had the windows drop down 1/2 way then go up again once the door was shut just for this purpose. Very handy it was too. Doesn't the 4 do this?

Oh & M3 for me. Looks so much more M than the 4 which looks like any other 4 when parked next to it.

NISFAN · 08-17-2015, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Brigand

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Originally Posted by NISFAN

Heh he, I followed a black M3 the other day, and I couldn't get Darth Vaders helmet out of my mind, those flared arches

Do you normall find yourself thinking about Darth Vaders Helmet?

Storm troopers?

Chewbacca?

No, but a black M3 with privacy glass....from the back looks like one big helmet.

Steve_M_Sport · 08-17-2015, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by robwils

Good lord No !

you'll be wanting it x drive next too

Definitely do not want it with X Drive - an M3 Touring S Drive would be brilliant .

Russbmw · 08-17-2015, 03:32 AM

Tidy M3s

Tidy M4s

dopper99 · 08-17-2015, 03:37 AM

As a mentioned in the black wheel thread the other week .... seems nearly all M3/M4s are ordered with black wheels.

Dave_3 · 08-17-2015, 04:07 AM

For those who need scaffolding mounted rear wings, their is the M4 GTS concept.

D.

Jimbo4GC · 08-17-2015, 04:09 AM

I'm a big fan of the M3 - more ordinary somehow equals more special!

AdamW · 08-17-2015, 04:34 AM

M4 convertible with M performance goodies....but then i would say that right

DaveA · 08-17-2015, 07:06 AM

Not sure that I kind of get the M3 and M4 now... They are not race cars and M is not BMW Motorsport anymore... So you are not buying a Motorsport car... But an 'M' car... and our M Sports get 'M' branding now...

Of the two, I would have the M3 over and M4 for just the same reasons I now have a 3 and not a 4... The extra doors...

If I was looking at M4 then I (personally) would be only considering 2-seats and so would consider Cayman or Boxster etc... If you buy an M4 because you don't need 4 seats except for possibly on the odd occasion, maybe, then you are simply limiting your options... Want 4 seats, go M3...

Back to the desire, though... I am not sure, day-to-day, an M3 would be any better for me all round than the 330d I have now... For the £20k plus extra, no way would it... So would I be just having it for a (perceived) status?

I have done Boxster S and Cayman S, both fine cars, excellent performers, and very well balanced... I have done GT3, and an M4 would have to be something really special to get close to that experience/capability... GT4, I understand, out performs GT3 dynamically but has not enough grunt to out drag it (so cannot compete on overall lap time... but corner speeds are higher..)... But you probably cannot get a GT4, so a moot point...

M2 might be my cup of tea... But will that be worth the extra over the M235i..???

Hmmmm....

added to say that I know M2 suffers same problem as lack of doors vrs M4 in my rationale...

Russbmw · 08-17-2015, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamW

M4 convertible with M performance goodies....but then i would say that right

robwils · 08-17-2015, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve_M_Sport

Definitely do not want it with X Drive - an M3 Touring S Drive would be brilliant .

Just my little joke about the hearse

M4GC would be my choice too if they did it.

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DaveA Brigadier General 1874 Rep 3,432 Posts Drives: BMW M135i xDrive Join Date: May 2013 Location: Teesside iTrader: (0)	Not sure that I kind of get the M3 and M4 now... They are not race cars and M is not BMW Motorsport anymore... So you are not buying a Motorsport car... But an 'M' car... and our M Sports get 'M' branding now... Of the two, I would have the M3 over and M4 for just the same reasons I now have a 3 and not a 4... The extra doors... If I was looking at M4 then I (personally) would be only considering 2-seats and so would consider Cayman or Boxster etc... If you buy an M4 because you don't need 4 seats except for possibly on the odd occasion, maybe, then you are simply limiting your options... Want 4 seats, go M3... Back to the desire, though... I am not sure, day-to-day, an M3 would be any better for me all round than the 330d I have now... For the £20k plus extra, no way would it... So would I be just having it for a (perceived) status? I have done Boxster S and Cayman S, both fine cars, excellent performers, and very well balanced... I have done GT3, and an M4 would have to be something really special to get close to that experience/capability... GT4, I understand, out performs GT3 dynamically but has not enough grunt to out drag it (so cannot compete on overall lap time... but corner speeds are higher..)... But you probably cannot get a GT4, so a moot point... M2 might be my cup of tea... But will that be worth the extra over the M235i..??? Hmmmm.... added to say that I know M2 suffers same problem as lack of doors vrs M4 in my rationale... __________________ CAR HISTORY - Golf GTI 245 - F30 340i M Sport - F30 330d M Sport MPPK - F30 320d Sport - 997 Gen2 GT3 - 987 Cayman S - 986 Boxster S - Ibiza Cupra - Polo 16v - E30 M3 (Official GB import) - Integra 16v - Mk2 Polo S - Mk1 Golf C Last edited by DaveA; 08-17-2015 at 07:24 AM.. Reason: added
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