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      10-21-2017, 07:33 PM   #23
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that enkei draco WILL work. fyi the draco is from the performance line and is a cast only (not MAT) wheel.

imo, the 1010 fitment guide specific to your car is not accurate.

to me the konig oversteer is nicer, lighter, cheaper and looks better than the draco. 18x8, +35, 72.56CB. these do not show up on the fitment guide for some reason but it should...

http://www.1010tires.com/Wheels/Koni...bboremax=72.60

i don't know anything about DAI or Replika so i personally wouldn't bother with them...

stick with enkei, beyern, konig, niche, touren, tsw, vmr

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      10-22-2017, 03:36 PM   #24
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Ya, at this point I think anything that's not gravity cast should do the job since the OEM wheels are not much better. I like the Oversteer better than the Draco as well, but they don't seem to have hub bore size equal or larger than 72.6, and I believe mine is 72.6. That'ats probably why it's not listed searching by my vehicle.

I actually went to the local 1010 shop yesterday about the get the Drago, but when I see it in person I think it's glossier than I was expecting. I was hoping to get something matt or satin in a darker color. The sale guy was trying to downsell me to Replika, made in Canada. Now I just need to check out those brands that you suggested to see if there's anything that I like.
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      10-22-2017, 07:56 PM   #25
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Ya, at this point I think anything that's not gravity cast should do the job since the OEM wheels are not much better. I like the Oversteer better than the Draco as well, but they don't seem to have hub bore size equal or larger than 72.6, and I believe mine is 72.6. That'ats probably why it's not listed searching by my vehicle.

I actually went to the local 1010 shop yesterday about the get the Drago, but when I see it in person I think it's glossier than I was expecting. I was hoping to get something matt or satin in a darker color. The sale guy was trying to downsell me to Replika, made in Canada. Now I just need to check out those brands that you suggested to see if there's anything that I like.
F30 hub bore is 72.56

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=745349

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      10-22-2017, 08:18 PM   #26
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      10-22-2017, 10:35 PM   #27
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Mine is F32 2018 440i
it is 72.56. you can get larger than 72.56 if you desire but then you may need hubcentric rings.

if you think it's 72.6 and feel safer getting it then i'm not going to try and convince you it's 72.56, haha

EDIT, my bad, maybe you're correct...

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/bmw/...trim-440i-eudm

not sure if they are rounding 72.56 to 72.6 or not, though. many peeps here use apex wheels which are 72.56

personally i'd get 72.56 but if you're more comfortable with 72.6 that's cool.

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      10-23-2017, 01:34 AM   #28
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I saw it on the same site and that was my only source. It seems like the site is saying that F30 is also 72.6. So you could actually be right that they're rounding it up. Maybe I'll go to 1010 again to see if they're willing to let me try to put the Konig on to see if it fits.

My second option is the Enkei M52
http://www.1010tires.com/Wheels/Enke...ed/Matte+Black
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      10-23-2017, 11:17 AM   #29
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http://www.1010tires.com/Wheels/Fast...bboremax=73.00

too bad these are sold out...
http://www.1010tires.com/Wheels/Fast...bboremax=73.00

2nd thought, maybe you should consider DAI or Replika, at least they (437M knock-offs) look good.

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      10-24-2017, 02:37 AM   #30
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2nd thought, maybe you should consider DAI or Replika, at least they (437M knock-offs) look good.
How come? I thought those are the poor quality ones?
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      10-24-2017, 03:52 AM   #31
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How come? I thought those are the poor quality ones?
I don't know if its poor...There's not much info when I search about DAI or replika. The listed ones, I have heard of before but they may not necessarily be good. My recommendations are from online information. I'd definitely be bummed if you chose something I recommend and it didn't work out.

FAST wheels seem to be decent

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      10-24-2017, 04:59 AM   #32
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I think those 2 are just gravity cast. The saleperson at 1010 actually recommended me those 2 brands as well as Riva, which is rimalloycanada, made in China. Replika is made in Canada. He said as long as I'm not buying some random replica from eBay then I should be fine. Picking winter wheel is just part of it. I also wanted to learn more about their construction since there are too much mixed information.
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      10-25-2017, 02:16 PM   #33
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1. the 704M is a cast wheel, NOT forged. bmw does offer some forged 20" wheels that fit F3_ or 19" and 18" wheels in offsets for M-cars.

2. cast wheels are fine however they are usually heavy. molten alloy poured into a mold. more material = stronger/heavier. rotary forged have cast spokes with rotary forged/flow formed/spun formed barrels. they are typically lighter and at least as strong as a cast wheel. forged are the strongest lightest and most expensive. usually cut out of forged billet or stamped into its general shape and then cut.

3. it is difficult to visually tell how a wheel is constructed. if two wheels are identical but one is forged you will be able to tell by its weight and usually cost.

4. i don't know of a trusted brand list however if you tell me your price range and what style, number and type of spokes, face design, concavity,lip or not, etc. you desire i can point you in the right direction.

5. have not heard of rimalloycanada. checked out the site. not much info

6. there's a bunch of standards such as TUV-europe, JWL-japan, etc. most of the known manufacturers meet these requirements. of course like anything else some are better than others and you get what you pay for.

7.1010 has ok stuff, however 18" VMR may not fit if you have M-sport brakes or larger.

i recommend, at minimum, a flow formed wheel. 18's have a somewhat limited selection but i apex, vorsteiner, tsw, avant garde, forgestar, enkei, oz, i'll edit if i think of more, are good.

since you're xdrive a square set up such as 18x8.5 ET35 with 255/40 all around or a staggered set up with 18x8.5 ET35, 18x9.5 ET40 with 225/45,255/40 or 235/45,265/40

Good info, thanks.

Here is a good site that gives good and short explanation of casting and forging in general.

http://www.atcgroup.com.au/CustomCas...ngForging.aspx
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Wow, thank you so much for your detail respond. Now I got most of the part figured out. Yes, I'm just looking for a set of 18" square for winter only. I'll be getting a set of forge after the winter for daily drive. Which also leads me to some follow up questions. What's our OEM Wheels grade, is it Low Pressure or Spun?

I'm basically debating in between 2 options I have on hand.

1. A friend offered me a set of 18" OEM 400M in silver color on a set of winter tire used for 1 winter season. He can't remember the tire spec and it's been sitting in the storage for 3 years, which I'm not sure if that'd affect the quality of the tire. The whole set for $2500 CAD
2. Get a set of 18" aftermarket from rimalloycanada (see picture below) with brand new winter tire of my choice for around $2000 CAD
Look up the tire's manufacture date.
There are recommendations on tire age, mounted and never mounted.
I've read to not mount tires that have reached 5-6 years of age from the date of manufacture and have never been mounted.
There is also suggestion to replace tires that are 6 years old from date of manufacture, while in use/mounted.
And, there is also recommendation to replace tires that are 10 years old from date of manufacture, also while in use/mounted.

TireRack.com has information on this as well.
Here:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret...sp?techid=184&


If the tires are nearing 5-6 years of age, I would set their value/price quite low even if they don't have much mileage wear.
The reason is their compound life. If a 60K mile wear tire has only 10K miles of wear, but it's also 6 years old, then the compound may well expire before the mileage wear the tread.

It's your call of course, but if I were buying I would want new tires if the mounted tires are 6+ years old.
So, for me 6+ year old tires, even with a good amount of tread, would be worthless as I wouldn't want to use them.

Tires are the ONLY thing that keeps a vehicle on the road.
For me, tires are not an area where going cheap makes sense.
I'd buy lower cost wheels, but not low cost, specifically "cheap", tires.

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I think those 2 are just gravity cast. The saleperson at 1010 actually recommended me those 2 brands as well as Riva, which is rimalloycanada, made in China. Replika is made in Canada. He said as long as I'm not buying some random replica from eBay then I should be fine. Picking winter wheel is just part of it. I also wanted to learn more about their construction since there are too much mixed information.
If you want some flow formed wheels made in Canada, I would try Fast FC04.

I have a set of 18s used for winters and they are pretty damn light, and look pretty good. Not too expensive too, I bought a set of 18x9 ET30 for 900$.
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Tires are the ONLY thing that keeps a vehicle on the road.
For me, tires are not an area where going cheap makes sense.
I'd buy lower cost wheels, but not low cost, specifically "cheap", tires.
I think I'll go with a new set of aftermarket wheel and tire instead of getting the used one from my friend. I'm planning to get the Pirelli Sottozero 3 225/45/18

1. $1835.92 225/45/18 XL 95V
2. $1859.92 225/45/18 95H

Seems like #1 is a better choice base on the price, speed rate, and XL. I just don't understand why the better one is cheaper than the one without XL and slower speed rate
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If you want some flow formed wheels made in Canada, I would try Fast FC04.

I have a set of 18s used for winters and they are pretty damn light, and look pretty good. Not too expensive too, I bought a set of 18x9 ET30 for 900$.
That was one of my top pick but they don't have them in stock anymore for the size that I need, which is 18x8 ET35
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I just installed a pair of aftermarket winter rims and tires for the first time. I was driving home on the new wheels and the tire pressure light came on. But then later the traction control light started flashing and killed the power briefly. The car is not liking the new wheels I'm assuming. Just wondering if this has happened to anyone else?

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