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      01-02-2013, 08:50 PM   #1739
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BMW Logo, you can change it to the M-Performance Logo I think with KOMBI / BMW_LOGO = mpm:

so that works on any f30/10? to change to Mperformance logo?
Here's proof that it can be done on F30... but like what Shawn say, if your vehicle original PSZData is old, you might not see the option to make the change at all, for such vehicle, you shouldn't even see the original BMW logo
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On the F10, L7_SURROUND_CONFIG replaces the "Surround" on/off checkbox with an "L7 Surround" Slider (-5/+5) on Settings=>Tone screen. The Slider appears to function as off (full left) and on (any setting other than full left).

Basically, it doesn't work as it should.
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      01-02-2013, 08:54 PM   #1741
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Yep, it's all good now. Just not quite understand why removing the country controller enables office and album art, but changing the country of HU just affect the language.
awhk - after you set the country to hongkong, your media/songs will display both Traditional & Simplified Chinese concurrently? E.g. some of the songs in my ipod are coded with traditional chinese while some others are simplified chinese, so will they both show ok (system/idrive language set to English)? I'm guessing both should work?

I can only tried it out later tonight when I'm home
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awhk - after you set the country to hongkong, your media/songs will display both Traditional & Simplified Chinese concurrently? E.g. some of the songs in my ipod are coded with traditional chinese while some others are simplified chinese, so will they both show ok (system/idrive language set to English)? I'm guessing both should work?

I can only tried it out later tonight when I'm home
It shows Trad. and Simp. Chinese as well as Japanese and Korean.
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It shows Trad. and Simp. Chinese as well as Japanese and Korean.
Cool!!!

No more funny character & squares!
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Does anybody know the difference between BMW Online & BMW Live?

They seems to the same thing? I previously only enable BMW Online, and it works well, while VO coding, I added in 6AL (BMW Live), though the service display now show I have both BMW Online & BMW Live, I only see Live on idrive, and it look exactly the same as Online (functionality wise)... so what is the diff?

My own thought is BMW Online is bundled with BMW Assist, for countries that doesn't have Assist, they market it as BMW Live?
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Does anybody know the difference between BMW Online & BMW Live?

They seems to the same thing? I previously only enable BMW Online, and it works well, while VO coding, I added in 6AL (BMW Live), though the service display now show I have both BMW Online & BMW Live, I only see Live on idrive, and it look exactly the same as Online (functionality wise)... so what is the diff?

My own thought is BMW Online is bundled with BMW Assist, for countries that doesn't have Assist, they market it as BMW Live?
BMW Live is BMW Online (News and Weather) with added Google Street View, Google Panoramio, and Google Local Search.
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BMW Live is BMW Online (News and Weather) with added Google Street View, Google Panoramio, and Google Local Search.
Okie, guess I'll turn online off
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It shows Trad. and Simp. Chinese as well as Japanese and Korean.
Just to check, does your car have navigation? Was reading another read at *********, it seems that changing text might cause me to lose my navigation as the FSC code is different... hmmm....
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Just to check, does your car have navigation? Was reading another read at *********, it seems that changing text might cause me to lose my navigation as the FSC code is different... hmmm....
We don't have nav. Not sure whether it'll cause u any trouble but seems it's nothing to do with map data. The HK/MAC maps are all in English for CIC anyway, Chinese display for maps is only available for NBT.
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It shows Trad. and Simp. Chinese as well as Japanese and Korean.
I think this may now solve the question some guys are asking over at the audio forum.
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We don't have nav. Not sure whether it'll cause u any trouble but seems it's nothing to do with map data. The HK/MAC maps are all in English for CIC anyway, Chinese display for maps is only available for NBT.
I only hope this is revertable if it does affect the navigation

if not, will have to visit dealer to recode everything.. hahaha
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I think this may now solve the question some guys are asking over at the audio forum.
Hopefully I can bring this good news to my Chinese friends in Canada if this is confirmed to be working.

Again, thanks for helping out!
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Here's proof that it can be done on F30... but like what Shawn say, if your vehicle original PSZData is old, you might not see the option to make the change at all, for such vehicle, you shouldn't even see the original BMW logo
I did mine too (it's legit for me because I have the Performance grill ).

Anyway, just wondering if this will work for the basic cluster as my friend is asking me to try on his car.
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I did mine too (it's legit for me because I have the Performance grill ).

Anyway, just wondering if this will work for the basic cluster as my friend is asking me to try on his car.
no harm trying, if you can see the option, then most likely it'll work, but if the option ain't there, you want to try also cannot... as mentioned previously, i tried it on a few F30, some work but some don't, those don't is because they have older implementation (i can't even see the BMW_LOGO option in KOMBI)
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Reporting some issues after changing the HU country to Hong Kong:

1. SMS/iMessages shown in Office disappear after each restart. Only newly received messages can be seen when my iPhone 5 iOS6.0.1 is connected to car via bluetooth (Combox already updated to 1006 last week). Is this the normal behaviour for Office?

2. The entry 'Message' in the main Office menu disappeared (it was there before changing the HU country) although I can access messages via Office Today. Seems like a glitch of the system and text for such entry is missing. Not sure how to describe exactlty, please see the attached image. Tried changing menu languages via iDrive but 'Message' still missing.
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Reporting some issues after changing the HU country to Hong Kong:

1. SMS/iMessages shown in Office disappear after each restart. Only newly received messages can be seen when my iPhone 5 iOS6.0.1 is connected to car via bluetooth (Combox already updated to 1006 last week). Is this the normal behaviour for Office?

2. The entry 'Message' in the main Office menu disappeared (it was there before changing the HU country) although I can access messages via Office Today. Seems like a glitch of the system and text for such entry is missing. Not sure how to describe exactlty, please see the attached image. Tried changing menu languages via iDrive but 'Message' still missing.
iPhone does not work well with Office, although it continues to improve. For testing purposes, it is too much I think to use this phone to test the coding with. To understand the impact of the removal of the Country Controller, and the resulting Office functionality, a stable phone designed to work with Office such as a BlackBerry is a much better device to use. Otherwise, you have too many variables.
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Reporting some issues after changing the HU country to Hong Kong:
Was it there before u change the HU country?
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Was it there before u change the HU country?
Yes.
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iPhone does not work well with Office, although it continues to improve. For testing purposes, it is too much I think to use this phone to test the coding with. To understand the impact of the removal of the Country Controller, and the resulting Office functionality, a stable phone designed to work with Office such as a BlackBerry is a much better device to use. Otherwise, you have too many variables.
I think awhk problem is legit. Right after I change the COUNTRY to hongkong (from ECE), all WORDINGS dissappear immediately, these include the split screen computer info (number/characters all gone!)

I could still use the idrive knob to move around the menu selection but no word shows up at all, and after a while the whole thing freezes/hang, idrive knob would no longer work!

Good news is even with the word disappearing, my nav still shows up, so at least this proves that it will not meddle with my nav & map FSC code, and promptly changing the COUNTRY back to ECE restore everything as they should.

I relook at the F30 cheat sheet and notice that we could "add" language. My unit being ECE configured, came standard with 13 language (mostly European), and I could add 3 more language to the list (16 max), I changed language 13 to korean, and added language 14 to 16 with japanese, chinese simplified & chinese traditional.

After coding, the langugage selection in idrive did add 4 more "phantom" language, i.e. i could read the first 12, but the last four - although they are selectable, they appear as blank altogether.

Gelling the COUNTRY & LANGUAGE piece together, I'm guessing our unit simply doesn't have the required FONT to display... but this is specific to the ECE unit.

AWHK have a Hong Kong unit (with Hong Kong country controller remove), but it seems he still could read everything else except just one menu in Office, which is consider good news comparing to my case... but still odd...

Sighz... why can't SG & HKG get the same headunit, no one in this country (majority at least) care about portugese or spanish or anything of that sort... lol

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... continuing from my report above...

ETK reveals that Hong Kong & Taiwan (removed National Version Korea & Japan) uses different CIC than the rest of the word:

S8LHA Hong Kong
S8LTA Taiwan

Both HK & TW uses same part:
Car Infotainment Computer ASIEN 1 03/12 65 12 9 281 910
Car Infotainment Computer ASIEN 1 07/12 65 12 9 286 469
Car Infotainment Computer ASIEN 1 11/12 65 12 9 289 217
Car Infotainment Computer ASIEN 1 11/12 65 12 9 311 139

whereas the rest of the world uses:
Replacement CIC 1 11/12 65 12 9 262 393

It would seems that my guess that the FONT is missing, and not retrofitable

Is China version of F30 having code name F35? Anyone with access to check if China's CIC is different part number?

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awhk's car doesn't have CIC. We only get radio professional as standard, & we don't have a unique headunit for radio professional.
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