[CuntFace5000]

Hi,

I have recently bought a 335d xdrive auto. So far I am very pleased. My only gripe is that I find it extremely frustrating that I have to apply the brake to put the transmission into drive from neutral. This isn't an issue if I am completely stationary. But if, for example, I am approaching a red light and I select neutral from drive and almost coast to a stop but then the light turns green I should be able to press unlock on the selector and engage drive to pull away. It seems silly that I have to press unlock and have foot on the brake. Surely just pressing unlock should be enough.

Is there anyway to switch the footbrake unlock off?

[jdrally]

Its an automatic. No need to put into neutral and coast. Just stop with the brake and the car will sort it out.

[Busted]

Sounds like your first auto

Use the box properly and you wont need to. Just leave it in drive

Its well worth reading up on how to use these things before presuming that they are badly designed

[robbiep]

Why would you select neutral ? The car puts itself into neutral as you coast up to the lights.
As to the interlock with the brakes, that is a safety feature designed to make it impossible (or close to impossible) to put the car into gear unless sitting in the drivers seat.

[bimmer456]

Looks like you posted the same subject on another forum.


335d xdrive into drive without applying brake?? https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1667124

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by robbiep

Why would you select neutral ? The car puts itself into neutral as you coast up to the lights.
As to the interlock with the brakes, that is a safety feature designed to make it impossible (or close to impossible) to put the car into gear unless sitting in the drivers seat.

I think it only does this in eco pro.

[Wills2]

Why do people do these things? It doesn't need to be put in neutral at the traffic lights.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by Wills2

Why do people do these things? It doesn't need to be put in neutral at the traffic lights.

Agree, plus it puts itself in 'as near to neutral' as it can, (Neutral Idle Control), while stationary. Putting the car in to Neutral manually, messes with the automatic control of that function as well.

[CuntFace5000]

Originally Posted by Busted

Sounds like your first auto

Use the box properly and you wont need to. Just leave it in drive

Its well worth reading up on how to use these things before presuming that they are badly designed

It is my first auto

[CuntFace5000]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Agree, plus it puts itself in 'as near to neutral' as it can, (Neutral Idle Control), while stationary. Putting the car in to Neutral manually, messes with the automatic control of that function as well.

Surely neutral should be used otherwise the car would never be able to be stationary with out having the brakes applied.

[Busted]

Originally Posted by demc1982

Surely neutral should be used otherwise the car would never be able to be stationary with out having the brakes applied.

You would never have a stationary car without the foot or handbrake applied if it was a manual either though

Leave it in drive. Its a clever little gearbox, let it do the work for you

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by Busted

You would never have a stationary car without the foot or handbrake applied if it was a manual either though

Leave it in drive. Its a clever little gearbox, let it do the work for you

I don't use neutral but I do shift with the paddles or gearshift to the left from time to time.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by demc1982

Surely neutral should be used otherwise the car would never be able to be stationary with out having the brakes applied.

No need to use Neutral in normal * day to day use. The idea is to drive in auto. Start car, select Drive, make your journey. Select Park, switch off.

Using the brakes is normal in auto use. Some models have brake auto-hold, does it all automatically.

* Only time extra care is needed for sitting on the brakes when stationary is after aggressive braking when discs will be really hot.

[thescouselander]

I'm pretty sure the manual states neutral shouldn't be selected while moving. I'm surprised the ECU even allows this.

Yes - you have to keep your foot on the brake at lights etc but that's normal with an Auto. If you want to stop the car creeping forward without the foot brake for some reason select Park. Ordinarily; just leave it in drive and let the greabox manage everything.

[Stainy]

I've done it on occasion when playing about. If you're going at crawling speed, it will sometimes go back into drive without the brake. I've no idea what criteria it uses to decide whether you're allowed though


On a separate note, there's no way in hell the little f**ker will let you reverse with the drivers door open Before anyone starts, I realise we have reversing sensors, but I don't trust them with low walls etc

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by demc1982

Surely neutral should be used otherwise the car would never be able to be stationary with out having the brakes applied.

When you're stationary you should have the brakes applied.....that's the point.

[Hooded]

For the OP

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/l...-an-automatic/

[Alscoob]

Down side with all these people in autos is not the fact that they have to hold the car on the brake when stationary but the fact that they have the brake lights on continuously when stationary, which in the drizzle and dark car be quite dazzling to the car behind. In fog it's even worse with the extra couple of lights on, but I'm not going there !

Why not put it into park when stationary or just apply the handbrake with your foot off the brake to give the folk behind an eyeball rest. So I don't get shot down in flames I'm not talking of when stopping and junctions or roundabouts but at times when traffic lights or stationary motorway stuff means you are stationary for some time.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by Alscoob

Down side with all these people in autos is not the fact that they have to hold the car on the brake when stationary but the fact that they have the brake lights on continuously when stationary, which in the drizzle and dark car be quite dazzling to the car behind. In fog it's even worse with the extra couple of lights on, but I'm not going there !

Why not put it into park when stationary or just apply the handbrake with your foot off the brake to give the folk behind an eyeball rest. So I don't get shot down in flames I'm not talking of when stopping and junctions or roundabouts but at times when traffic lights or stationary motorway stuff means you are stationary for some time.

This is something that concerns me, and not just auto drivers. The old style manual parking brake is fine, but with so many vehicles (including current 3-series) now using e-parking brakes, with an auto-hold function, we can easily forget that auto-hold is still displaying brake lights, be it manual or auto transmission.

Car manufacturer's are not helping the lighting situation.

[Goneinsixtyseconds]

I occasionally put mine into Park if stationary to be polite. But most of the time I forget because personally I've never felt dazzled or annoyed by someone's brake lights in front of me.

As most people sit there with their foot on the brake, I'm glad it doesn't bother me, enough things to get annoyed about without letting that one wind me up.

[rosstin]

Originally Posted by Stainy

I've done it on occasion when playing about. If you're going at crawling speed, it will sometimes go back into drive without the brake. I've no idea what criteria it uses to decide whether you're allowed though


On a separate note, there's no way in hell the little f**ker will let you reverse with the drivers door open Before anyone starts, I realise we have reversing sensors, but I don't trust them with low walls etc

I think you can have the door open if your seatbelt is on?

[340313]

Holding the car on the brakes took some getting used to after years driving manuals. It still doesn't feel quite right to me.

I do put it into park or neutral if the car has been driven hard - I seem to recall reading somewhere that bits of the pad can fuse to the disc if the brakes are hot. I'm not sure if there's any truth to that?