[emcampb2]

I coded the anti dazzle headlights however I feel there is a problem with either the light or camera. When HBA on it creates the tunnel but does not close any shutters when the car gets close. Almost every car flashed there lights at me. Any ideas on why this would happen? Do I need to do additional coding? Thanks in advance.

[dmnc02]

Originally Posted by emcampb2

I coded the anti dazzle headlights however I feel there is a problem with either the light or camera. When HBA on it creates the tunnel but does not close any shutters when the car gets close. Almost every car flashed there lights at me. Any ideas on why this would happen? Do I need to do additional coding? Thanks in advance.

Do you have Xenons or LEDs? As mentioned in posts #171-172, the Xenons fitted to North-American cars lack the rolling shutter and thus cannot be properly coded for no-glare high beam (NGHB). The LEDs do not use a shutter and can be coded to fully support NGHB.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by dmnc02

Do you have Xenons or LEDs? As mentioned in posts #171-172, the Xenons fitted to North-American cars lack the rolling shutter and thus cannot be properly coded for no-glare high beam (NGHB). The LEDs do not use a shutter and can be coded to fully support NGHB.

I have a MY2016 M235i, when my headlights first turn on it looks like the headlights wink after they turn on. It really looks like a mechanical action. Is this the rolling shutter that you are talking about?

[dmnc02]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

I have a MY2016 M235i, when my headlights first turn on it looks like the headlights wink after they turn on. It really looks like a mechanical action. Is this the rolling shutter that you are talking about?

The bi-Xenons still have a foldable screen to produce both a low beam and a high beam from the same lamp: this is probably what produces the "wink" you refer to. The walze (rolling shutter) is similar in operation, but it allows for multiple high beam patterns, as required for NGHB.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by dmnc02

The bi-Xenons still have a foldable screen to produce both a low beam and a high beam from the same lamp: this is probably what produces the "wink" you refer to. The walze (rolling shutter) is similar in operation, but it allows for multiple high beam patterns, as required for NGHB.

Thanks for the response. My car is fully loaded with all of the lighting options etc. When I drive around corners, I see my lights illuminate the sides of the road, the lights seem to move around. I picked up my car by European Delivery, I wonder if that could make a difference in hardware.
I would like to activate anti-dazzle, but I don't want to blind people in front of me.

[dmnc02]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

Thanks for the response. My car is fully loaded with all of the lighting options etc. When I drive around corners, I see my lights illuminate the sides of the road, the lights seem to move around. I picked up my car by European Delivery, I wonder if that could make a difference in hardware.
I would like to activate anti-dazzle, but I don't want to blind people in front of me.

US adaptive Xenons do have the stepper motors and so are capable of swiveling both on the horizontal and on the vertical plane. What is lacking is the ability to shape the high beam pattern.

In the summer, as a bunch of people on the other forum were trying to figure out if it was possible to fully enable NGHB on US cars, one of those people proceeded to take the adaptive Xenons out of his brand new M3 and disassemble them just to confirm whether the walze was there or not (you can see his video here). So we know for sure that the walze is missing and there is no hope to fully enable NGHB on US F3x/F8x with adaptive Xenons.

Granted, the adaptive Xenons on your M235i are different, so, until somebody disassembles them, there is no way to be sure whether or not the walze is there, but I suspect that the same applies to all adaptive Xenons on US cars.

The adaptive LEDs operate differently, since there is no walze either on Euro or US headlamps and instead the beam shaping is produced by selectively dimming some of the LED emitters (there are multiple ones in each headlamp), which can enabled on US cars by coding.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by dmnc02

Granted, the adaptive Xenons on your M235i are different, so, until somebody disassembles them, there is no way to be sure whether or not the walze is there, but I suspect that the same applies to all adaptive Xenons on US cars.

Thank you, now it is all clear. I guess I might try to code it in and check out the results.

[AGONXF30]

Has anyone found an ECE headlamp supplier yet?

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by AGONXF30

Has anyone found an ECE headlamp supplier yet?

I think that changing the headlight assemblies would be so expensive that there isn't much interest in switching them.

[AGONXF30]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

I think that changing the headlight assemblies would be so expensive that there isn't much interest in switching them.

How times have changed... I used to be able to get ECE headlamps all the time. I remember the Hella DE I used to have. Granted the light output on these modern lights are not half bad and these extra options are not worth the extra cash, but I bet that if ECE lamps were available for 600 to 800 bucks a set, they will sell.

[roxxor]

Searching the UK or German Ebay sites is how I found mine. I got them installed the other day but haven't been able to drive at night yet to test the HBA, but the car turns on and the headlights come on with no errors. I ended up paying a little over $700 for mine, and that includes the high international shipping cost(not to mention the time it took one of them to get here ) You will most likely have to contact the seller to make sure they will ship to the US before buying.

The numbers on the headlight housing you are looking for are 63117259527(Driver) and 63117259528(Passenger). Some search terms to help with looking for them are BMW F30 Xenon, followed by Rechts(right) or Links(left). Kurvenlicht is another term for the adaptive light. BMW F30 Scheinwerfer is another search to try, scheinwerfer meaning headlights.

You will see some listings that may have the terms you searched for but don't show the part #. My recommendation is not to buy it unless you visually verify the part #, just so you don't end up getting the wrong thing. Also, make sure to look the pictures over thoroughly for damage/broken tabs. One of mine arrived with only 2 tabs, so I had to makeshift one of the F80 Tab Repair Kits to make it secure.

[rollinstone157]

Originally Posted by roxxor

...The numbers on the headlight housing you are looking for are 63117259527(Driver) and 63117259528(Passenger). Some search terms to help with looking for them are BMW F30 Xenon, followed by Rechts(right) or Links(left). Kurvenlicht is another term for the adaptive light. BMW F30 Scheinwerfer is another search to try, scheinwerfer meaning headlights...

Please keep us updated on how they work for you--I'd love to see the tunnel in action!

[keltis99]

to add more excitement to this record-breaking threat I just want to confirm that i do have US spec F32 (2014) imported to Europe with EU-spec bi-xenons retrofitted (S522A). I have Adaptive Headlights too (S524A) and S8S4A as well.

I have got rid of S8S4A (via FEM_BODY 3073 LUT_FLC_FORWARDLIGHTING_Y werte = 9C,9C,9C and FEM_BODY 3073 C_AFS_ENA werte = 01) which seem to work and I am looking forward to enabling no-dazzle high beam assistance however i am not sure i can do that since I do not have the HBA option (=no button on the stalk).

can anyone confirm?

tx
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[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by roxxor

Searching the UK or German Ebay sites is how I found mine. I got them installed the other day but haven't been able to drive at night yet to test the HBA, but the car turns on and the headlights come on with no errors. I ended up paying a little over $700 for mine, and that includes the high international shipping cost(not to mention the time it took one of them to get here ) You will most likely have to contact the seller to make sure they will ship to the US before buying.

The numbers on the headlight housing you are looking for are 63117259527(Driver) and 63117259528(Passenger). Some search terms to help with looking for them are BMW F30 Xenon, followed by Rechts(right) or Links(left). Kurvenlicht is another term for the adaptive light. BMW F30 Scheinwerfer is another search to try, scheinwerfer meaning headlights.

You will see some listings that may have the terms you searched for but don't show the part #. My recommendation is not to buy it unless you visually verify the part #, just so you don't end up getting the wrong thing. Also, make sure to look the pictures over thoroughly for damage/broken tabs. One of mine arrived with only 2 tabs, so I had to makeshift one of the F80 Tab Repair Kits to make it secure.

Several questions.

The part numbers you list for a F30 (BMW NR. 63.11 - 7-259527 and BMW NR. 63.11 - 7-259528) do not show up on a European BMW Databases any longer.

They now show a part number which has the same number as the USA Headlight Assemblies, which as you know, do not have the shutter in place.

http://www.genuineautoparts.com/eu/b...osite-headlamp

http://www.genuineautoparts.com/eu/b...osite-headlamp

I have also put the parts number in other German BMW Parts suppliers - and been in contact with the support people at genuine auto parts.com/eu/bmw who cannot find them in any current database.

Do you have any idea of what to look for now in EU?

Given all this and the links above, could they be using the same part number as they do in USA without the shutter?

Or can anyone in EU with a 2013-2015 F30, Halogens and Adaptive & HBA/Anti-Dazzle post (or message me) the last 7 of your VIN so I can try and find the current part numbers and can pass them on here.

Thanks for the assist!

[kobluna]

I have a question of part numbers. If I check from WebETK or RealOEM I can't find the numbers provided by roxxor. Instead I found out that the part numbers for adpative xenons are 63117338701 and 63117338702. Has the numbers changed in some point or why the disparity? I looked parts for model year 2014 but that shouldn't make a difference, should it?

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by roxxor

The numbers on the headlight housing you are looking for are 63117259527(Driver) and 63117259528(Passenger). Some search terms to help with looking for them are BMW F30 Xenon, followed by Rechts(right) or Links(left). Kurvenlicht is another term for the adaptive light. BMW F30 Scheinwerfer is another search to try, scheinwerfer meaning headlights.

You will see some listings that may have the terms you searched for but don't show the part #. My recommendation is not to buy it unless you visually verify the part #, just so you don't end up getting the wrong thing. Also, make sure to look the pictures over thoroughly for damage/broken tabs. One of mine arrived with only 2 tabs, so I had to makeshift one of the F80 Tab Repair Kits to make it secure.

Originally Posted by kobluna

I have a question of part numbers. If I check from WebETK or RealOEM I can't find the numbers provided by roxxor. Instead I found out that the part numbers for adpative xenons are 63117338701 and 63117338702. Has the numbers changed in some point or why the disparity? I looked parts for model year 2014 but that shouldn't make a difference, should it?

Well, I have spent the last 3 months trying to get to the bottom of that question. This is what I know.

The number(s) roxxor listed were valid at one point in time. I have even seen a photograph with that number factory installed in a BMW. See Below

HOWEVER, as you found out, those numbers do not exist in any BMW Database. (at least in 2016). I have had multiple Part Dealers all over the EU trying to find it in any BMW Reference. Even EU BMW Dealers could not get a hit.

You might see my posts in the U.K. and EU section trying to get an EU VIN as the Sales Manager of Realoem in Europe indicated he could find the part numbers with an EU VIN.

Finally on Saturday with the help of French member Lancelot , I finally was able to solve the mystery.

The current numbers for the assembly as follows:

S522A=Halogen
S524A=Auto Highbeam with AKL (Adaptive Kurven Licht which is german for Adaptive Headlights)

For vehicles with Xenon Light and Adaptive Headlights (this is what you want)

S522A=Yes

S524A=Yes
01 Bi-xenon headlight AKL, left 1 63117338701
01 Bi-xenon headlight AKL, right 1 63117338702
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...49#63117338701

For vehicles with Xenon Light and Adaptive Headlights (These DO NOT have S5254A...these are NOT what you want)

S522A=Yes

S524A=No

01 Bi-xenon headlight, left 1 63117314531
01 Bi-xenon headlight, right 1 63117314532

For UK/Australian and other RIGHT HAND DRIVE CARS (NOT USA)

For vehicles with Xenon Light and Adaptive Headlights

S522A=Yes

S524A=Yes

01 Bi-xenon headlight AKL, left 1 63117338703
01 Bi-xenon headlight AKL, right 1 63117338704

For vehicles with Xenon Light and Adaptive Headlights

S522A=Yes

S524A=No

01 Bi-xenon headlight, left 1 63117338699
01 Bi-xenon headlight, right 1 63117338700

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...49#63117338701

Again, that is not what you want in USA

Part 63117338701/63117338702 was found on the following vehicles:
3' F30, 316d, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3D91) : Headlight
3' F30, 316d, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3D92) : Headlight
3' F30, 316d, Sedan, B47, EUR, (3W31) : Headlight
3' F30, 316d, Sedan, B47, EUR, (3W32) : Headlight
3' F30, 316i, Sedan, N13, EUR, (3A11) : Headlight
3' F30, 316i, Sedan, N13, EUR, (3A12) : Headlight
3' F30, 316i, Sedan, N13, EUR, (3A15) : Headlight
3' F30, 316i, Sedan, N13, EUR, (3A16) : Headlight
3' F30, 318d, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3D11) : Headlight
3' F30, 318d, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3D12) : Headlight
3' F30, 318d, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3D15) : Headlight
3' F30, 318d, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3D16) : Headlight
3' F30, 318dX, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3J31) : Headlight
3' F30, 320d, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3D31) : Headlight
3' F30, 320d, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3D32) : Headlight
3' F30, 320d, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3D35) : Headlight
3' F30, 320d, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3D36) : Headlight
3' F30, 320d ed, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3E11) : Headlight
3' F30, 320d ed, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3E12) : Headlight
3' F30, 320d ed, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3E15) : Headlight
3' F30, 320d ed, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3E16) : Headlight
3' F30, 320dX, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3D51) : Headlight
3' F30, 320dX, Sedan, N47N, EUR, (3W52) : Headlight
3' F30, 320i, Sedan, N20, EUR, (3B11) : Headlight
3' F30, 320i, Sedan, N20, EUR, (3B12) : Headlight
3' F30, 320i, Sedan, N20, EUR, (3B15) : Headlight
3' F30, 320i, Sedan, N20, EUR, (3B16) : Headlight
3' F30, 320i ed, Sedan, N13, EUR, (3J91) : Headlight
3' F30, 320i ed, Sedan, N13, EUR, (3J92) : Headlight
3' F30, 320iX, Sedan, N20, EUR, (3C31) : Headlight
3' F30, 320iX, Sedan, N20, EUR, (3C32) : Headlight
3' F30, 320iX, Sedan, N20, EUR, (3C36) : Headlight
3' F30, 325d, Sedan, N47S1, EUR, (3D71) : Headlight
3' F30, 325d, Sedan, N47S1, EUR, (3D72) : Headlight
3' F30, 328i, Sedan, N20, EUR, (3A51) : Headlight
3' F30, 328i, Sedan, N20, EUR, (3A52) : Headlight
3' F30, 328i, Sedan, N20, EUR, (3A55) : Headlight
3' F30, 328i, Sedan, N20, EUR, (3A56) : Headlight
3' F30, 328i, Sedan, N26, EUR, (3C11) : Headlight
3' F30, 328i, Sedan, N26, EUR, (3C15) : Headlight
3' F30, 328iX, Sedan, N20, EUR, (3B51) : Headlight
3' F30, 330d, Sedan, N57N, EUR, (3E51) : Headlight
3' F30, 330d, Sedan, N57N, EUR, (3E52) : Headlight
3' F30, 330d, Sedan, N57N, EUR, (3E56) : Headlight
3' F30, 330dX, Sedan, N57N, EUR, (3E31) : Headlight
3' F30, 330dX, Sedan, N57N, EUR, (3E32) : Headlight
3' F30, 335dX, Sedan, N57Z, EUR, (3J71) : Headlight
3' F30, 335dX, Sedan, N57Z, EUR, (3J72) : Headlight
3' F30, 335i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (3A91) : Headlight
3' F30, 335i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (3A92) : Headlight
3' F30, 335i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (3A95) : Headlight
3' F30, 335i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (3A96) : Headlight
3' F30, 335iX, Sedan, N55, EUR, (3B91) : Headlight
3' F30, Hybrid 3, Sedan, N55, EUR, (3F91) : Headlight
3' F30, Hybrid 3, Sedan, N55, EUR, (3F92) : Headlight
3' F31, 316d, Touring, N47N, EUR, (3K91) : Headlight
3' F31, 316d, Touring, N47N, EUR, (3K92) : Headlight
3' F31, 316d, Touring, B47, EUR, (8L51) : Headlight
3' F31, 316d, Touring, B47, EUR, (8L52) : Headlight
3' F31, 316i, Touring, N13, EUR, (3G11) : Headlight
3' F31, 316i, Touring, N13, EUR, (3G12) : Headlight
3' F31, 318d, Touring, N47N, EUR, (3K11) : Headlight
3' F31, 318d, Touring, N47N, EUR, (3K12) : Headlight
3' F31, 318dX, Touring, N47N, EUR, (8J31) : Headlight
3' F31, 320d, Touring, N47N, EUR, (3K31) : Headlight
3' F31, 320d, Touring, N47N, EUR, (3K32) : Headlight
3' F31, 320d ed, Touring, N47N, EUR, (3L11) : Headlight
3' F31, 320d ed, Touring, N47N, EUR, (3L12) : Headlight
3' F31, 320dX, Touring, N47N, EUR, (3K51) : Headlight
3' F31, 320dX, Touring, N47N, EUR, (3K52) : Headlight
3' F31, 320i, Touring, N20, EUR, (3G71) : Headlight
3' F31, 320i, Touring, N20, EUR, (3G72) : Headlight
3' F31, 320iX, Touring, N20, EUR, (3H11) : Headlight
3' F31, 320iX, Touring, N20, EUR, (3H12) : Headlight
3' F31, 325d, Touring, N47S1, EUR, (3K71) : Headlight
3' F31, 325d, Touring, N47S1, EUR, (3K72) : Headlight
3' F31, 328i, Touring, N20, EUR, (3G51) : Headlight
3' F31, 328i, Touring, N20, EUR, (3G52) : Headlight
3' F31, 328iX, Touring, N20, EUR, (3H51) : Headlight
3' F31, 330d, Touring, N57N, EUR, (3L51) : Headlight
3' F31, 330d, Touring, N57N, EUR, (3L52) : Headlight
3' F31, 330dX, Touring, N57N, EUR, (3L31) : Headlight
3' F31, 330dX, Touring, N57N, EUR, (3L32) : Headlight
3' F31, 335dX, Touring, N57Z, EUR, (8J71) : Headlight
3' F31, 335dX, Touring, N57Z, EUR, (8J72) : Headlight
3' F31, 335i, Touring, N55, EUR, (3G91) : Headlight
3' F31, 335i, Touring, N55, EUR, (3G92) : Headlight
3' F31, 335iX, Touring, N55, EUR, (3H91) : Headlight

SO AGAIN THE PART NUMBERS YOU WANT ARE 63117338701 AND 63117338702

Now to give you more options, these are made by Hella for BMW.

http://www.hella.com

You can find the part from Hella for much cheaper than you can find the BMW Part

BMW 63117338701 = HELLA 1ZS-354-983-211 = HELLA 354-983-211

BMW 63117338702 = HELLA 1ZS-354-983-221 = HELLA 354-983-221

If you want to go with RealOEM for the BMW Part number, here is their info:

Quote is valid until November 30, 2016

Order Content
Part Number 63117338701
Make
Part Name HEADLIGHT LEFT
List €0.00EUR
Price €819.00EUR
Quantity 1
Total €819.00EUR


Part Number 63117338702
Make
Part Name HEADLIGHT RIGHT
List €0.00EUR
Price €819.00EUR
Quantity 1
Total €819.00EUR

Subtotal Amount:
€1,638.00EUR

Estimated (UPS - Express Saver):
€121.23EUR

Estimated Current Total:
€1,759.23EUR

Company Information
Genuine Auto Parts | Europe,
Friedrichstrasse 15
Stuttgart, Baden Wurttemberg, 70174
Germany
+49 (0) 711 953 39 608
support@genuineautoparts.com

[roxxor]

Very thorough post above! The part #'s I listed are the used Euro-spec housings that are in my US model car now, and even after many months, I still get giddy watching the Adaptive High-Beams do their thing... totally worth the time/effort it took to find them!!

For some reason, there are some parts(headlight housings and DSC Module just to name 2) where the actual numbers on the part do not match what is in the ETK/RealOEM Database. Why that happens is anyone's guess....

[kobluna]

Very detailed post indeed! Please let us know if you got the right parts. Did you mean that you got both headlight housings in about $900 total? That sounds good considering that they are new.

Heck, I paid back in the day 400€ for one halogen housing for E90. Though I bought that directly from the dealer because they paid half of it as a good will (there was moisture inside the housing).

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by kobluna

Very detailed post indeed! Please let us know if you got the right parts. That sounds good considering that they are new.

Heck, I paid back in the day 400€ for one halogen housing for E90. Though I bought that directly from the dealer because they paid half of it as a good will (there was moisture inside the housing).

I just received 2 DHL tracking numbers today, so I am encouraged at this point that something is on the way.

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by roxxor

Very thorough post above! The part #'s I listed are the used Euro-spec housings that are in my US model car now, and even after many months, I still get giddy watching the Adaptive High-Beams do their thing... totally worth the time/effort it took to find them!!

For some reason, there are some parts(headlight housings and DSC Module just to name 2) where the actual numbers on the part do not match what is in the ETK/RealOEM Database. Why that happens is anyone's guess....

Even EU BMW Dealers could not find the numbers, but as you and I both know, they clearly DO exist

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by roxxor

Very thorough post above! The part #'s I listed are the used Euro-spec housings that are in my US model car now, and even after many months, I still get giddy watching the Adaptive High-Beams do their thing... totally worth the time/effort it took to find them!!

For some reason, there are some parts(headlight housings and DSC Module just to name 2) where the actual numbers on the part do not match what is in the ETK/RealOEM Database. Why that happens is anyone's guess....

Looking at the customs form it shows each headlight weighs 2.734 Kg or slightly over 6lbs each. That seems light to me.

Do you remember how much your headlights (minus xenon etc) weigh?

[TePee]

By the way, if someone is interested, I might sell a set of left and right European adaptive xenon headlights (SA524) for 3 GT F34. It depends on whether I will really do my selective beam retrofit or stay with my normal xenons. I´m not 100% sure at the moment, but PN me if you are interested and we will see.