Advice needed please, Oyster Leather Damage?

MickyD'bo · 06-04-2017, 11:10 AM

I've had the car 4 months. It's about to have its 1st birthday in June and has done 15,000 miles, 8,000 of those with me.

I love the Oyster leather and about a month ago, cleaned and treated it with this...

It did a great job and I've just applied it again today. It removes any ink transfer perfectly and leaves the leather with a superb, matt finish [like new] and smells great too.

here's the overall result...

Closer inspection shows how well it has cleaned and removed any ink transfer...

BUT, at the base of the seat back, this mark will not move. I cleaned it well using a generous amount of the Dr. Leather product [gently]. Does it look like leather damage?

What do you guys think? Anyone else had this issue? There is some of this marking on the side bolster too (not photographed).

Any insight, comments or advice would be most welcome..final pic of problem:

NotGotABimmer23 · 06-04-2017, 11:23 AM

Difficult to tell if its damage or transfer. Is there are peeling/flaking of the white??

NISFAN · 06-04-2017, 11:26 AM

Black transfer from a belt?

MickyD'bo · 06-04-2017, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kylemacca01

Difficult to tell if its damage or transfer. Is there are peeling/flaking of the white??

No peeling or flaking that I can see, no. Just this black mark that WILL NOT move. All the other ink transfer came off no bother at all. You could see the cleaner wiping it away.

NotGotABimmer23 · 06-04-2017, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MackyDobbo_Dobster_D'BO

No peeling or flaking that I can see, no. Just this black mark that WILL NOT move. All the other ink transfer came off no bother at all. You could see the cleaner wiping it away.

It its black on top of the leather then something should shift it. If the white has come off leaving that underneath id be having words with the dealer.

MickyD'bo · 06-04-2017, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NISFAN

Black transfer from a belt?

Maybe. That's what I thought. It just won't shift though. That's what's making me think the white has come off.

MickyD'bo · 06-04-2017, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kylemacca01

It its black on top of the leather then something should shift it. If the white has come off leaving that underneath id be having words with the dealer.

Looking that way. Wonder if anyone else has had this issue before?

badgerbrock72 · 06-04-2017, 12:41 PM

If you do take it to dealer i would keep quiet about the cleaning products as they are not bmw branded...

You wouldn't want to give them an easy excuse to fob you off

dubdemand · 06-04-2017, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NISFAN

Black transfer from a belt?

Deffo this... can't help with removal though! I have a black mark (makeup I think) on my back seat that I can't shift with Dr Leather... it bothers me but I keep telling myself it will happen with a daily driver and that I should spend more time enjoying it than worrying about little details!

Let us know if you manage to shift it!

MickyD'bo · 06-04-2017, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dubdemand

Deffo this... can't help with removal though! I have a black mark (makeup I think) on my back seat that I can't shift with Dr Leather... it bothers me but I keep telling myself it will happen with a daily driver and that I should spend more time enjoying it than worrying about little details!

Let us know if you manage to shift it!

OMG, I hope not. I'll be gutted if this is now a permanent feature of the car I love. Not loved a car like this for many years and the black mark is too big to ignore.

If anyone has any advice on what might move this I would be VERY grateful.

badgerbrock72 · 06-04-2017, 03:01 PM

Could always get a furniture clinic kit to mask over it

They do a leather repair kit about £30 and you basically paint over the mark.

Scottiedog · 06-04-2017, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MackyDobbo_Dobster_D'BO

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Originally Posted by kylemacca01

It its black on top of the leather then something should shift it. If the white has come off leaving that underneath id be having words with the dealer.

Looking that way. Wonder if anyone else has had this issue before?

Yes my dad has the same issue on his oyster. And yes it's his belt. On his previous f32 it wouldn't shift with anything I used so as soon as I noticed it on his new car i scrubbed it with doctor leather wipes. Came off easily enough as we caught it in time before it got really bad. It's one of those things now that has to be monitored closely other wise it'll end up like his last car. Try a shoe brush and some spray on leather cleaner?

ushafiq · 06-04-2017, 03:23 PM

I had the same issue on my e92 oyster leather - driver side on the back where the heating pad is for the heated seat. Nothing worked so I bought Oyster leather dye from ebay, touched it with the dye carefully - make sure you clean the leather before that....worked OK. however, I noted that dye also came off after couple of months so reapplied it...

Proftinkerpot · 06-04-2017, 05:34 PM

I have exactly the same mark on my red leather seats on my 335d. Leather cleaning products removed the dye transfer elsewhere but as said above, I think this is from a black belt. The leather seam is in a really bad place and is quite hard being hippo hide. If you find something that cleans it, do let me know.

ronime · 06-05-2017, 02:19 PM

Pure liquid soap flakes might be worth a try. Gentle on leather and possibly a different detergent/cleaner to that present in Dr Leather.

£2.50 from Wilkinsons or £3 from Tesco. Both made by Dri-Pak and rebranded.

6times7 · 06-05-2017, 02:27 PM

Looking at that photo it appears to be far more like a black mark on the white leather than abrasion through to black leather beneath.

On that basis, I'd be trying a very gentle pass of some wet 1200+ grade wet and dry on the periphery of the mark and working into it if it showed improvement.

If no improvement on the edges, back the f**k up and talk to the dealer.

MickyD'bo · 06-05-2017, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 6times7

Looking at that photo it appears to be far more like a black mark on the white leather than abrasion through to black leather beneath.

On that basis, I'd be trying a very gentle pass of some wet 1200+ grade wet and dry on the periphery of the mark and working into it if it showed improvement.

If no improvement on the edges, back the f**k up and talk to the dealer.

sandpaper. What. On the leather. Really?

6times7 · 06-05-2017, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MackyDobbo_Dobster_D'BO

sandpaper. What. On the leather. Really?

No, not sandpaper MD_D_D'BO, that would be foolish- 1200 grade wet & dry, moist 1200 grade wet & dry, damp even, applied gently.

What exactly do you have to loose, other than a massive black skid mark?

bmnut · 06-05-2017, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MackyDobbo_Dobster_D'BO

sandpaper. What. On the leather. Really?

I use products from "Furniture Clinic", I'll try to find a link to their website, they've got some videos on there which are worth watching as to how they do leather repairs.......your eyes will really be wide open believe me!

bmnut · 06-05-2017, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bmnut

I use products from "Furniture Clinic", I'll try to find a link to their website, they've got some videos on there which are worth watching as to how they do leather repairs.......your eyes will really be wide open believe me!

Try this website..............https://www.furnitureclinic.co.uk

MickyD'bo · 06-05-2017, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bmnut

Try this website..............https://www.furnitureclinic.co.uk

Wow. Now I need me some of that stain remover. Thanks dude. I'm going to give that a go.

MickyD'bo · 06-05-2017, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 6times7

No, not sandpaper MD_D_D'BO, that would be foolish- 1200 grade wet & dry, moist 1200 grade wet & dry, damp even, applied gently.

What exactly do you have to loose, other than a massive black skid mark?

Gain a massive brown one?

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MickyD'bo Major 566 Rep 1,137 Posts Drives: 2016 F31 335d xDrive Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Geordie In Yorkshire! iTrader: (0)	Advice needed please, Oyster Leather Damage? I've had the car 4 months. It's about to have its 1st birthday in June and has done 15,000 miles, 8,000 of those with me. I love the Oyster leather and about a month ago, cleaned and treated it with this... It did a great job and I've just applied it again today. It removes any ink transfer perfectly and leaves the leather with a superb, matt finish [like new] and smells great too. here's the overall result... Closer inspection shows how well it has cleaned and removed any ink transfer... BUT, at the base of the seat back, this mark will not move. I cleaned it well using a generous amount of the Dr. Leather product [gently]. Does it look like leather damage? What do you guys think? Anyone else had this issue? There is some of this marking on the side bolster too (not photographed). Any insight, comments or advice would be most welcome..final pic of problem: Last edited by MickyD'bo; 06-04-2017 at 12:02 PM..
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badgerbrock72 Captain 111 Rep 624 Posts Drives: 340i M-Sport Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Birmingham iTrader: (1)	If you do take it to dealer i would keep quiet about the cleaning products as they are not bmw branded... You wouldn't want to give them an easy excuse to fob you off
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badgerbrock72 Captain 111 Rep 624 Posts Drives: 340i M-Sport Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Birmingham iTrader: (1)	Could always get a furniture clinic kit to mask over it They do a leather repair kit about £30 and you basically paint over the mark.
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ushafiq Private First Class 38 Rep 103 Posts Drives: F36 435d xdrive & G01 X3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	I had the same issue on my e92 oyster leather - driver side on the back where the heating pad is for the heated seat. Nothing worked so I bought Oyster leather dye from ebay, touched it with the dye carefully - make sure you clean the leather before that....worked OK. however, I noted that dye also came off after couple of months so reapplied it...
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Proftinkerpot Major 219 Rep 1,359 Posts Drives: F30 335d M Sport -Superman Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Belfast iTrader: (0)	I have exactly the same mark on my red leather seats on my 335d. Leather cleaning products removed the dye transfer elsewhere but as said above, I think this is from a black belt. The leather seam is in a really bad place and is quite hard being hippo hide. If you find something that cleans it, do let me know.
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ronime Captain 344 Rep 834 Posts Drives: BMW X1 sDrive20i M Sport MHT Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: West Yorkshire, UK iTrader: (0)	Pure liquid soap flakes might be worth a try. Gentle on leather and possibly a different detergent/cleaner to that present in Dr Leather. £2.50 from Wilkinsons or £3 from Tesco. Both made by Dri-Pak and rebranded. __________________ BMW X1 sDrive20i ///M Sport MHT
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6times7 Second Lieutenant 137 Rep 257 Posts Drives: F31 330d Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Looking at that photo it appears to be far more like a black mark on the white leather than abrasion through to black leather beneath. On that basis, I'd be trying a very gentle pass of some wet 1200+ grade wet and dry on the periphery of the mark and working into it if it showed improvement. If no improvement on the edges, back the f**k up and talk to the dealer.
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