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You can still easily connect the Ipod with the Y-cable and get most functions. For the small amount of customers that want full functionality, they can choose options that allow that. The Combox is a multifunction units that controls things like Audio, Video and GPS. It has hardware and software on it developed with Apple to allow full Ipod functionality and control through the Idrive system.
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What are your comments on Technic's responses in this thread? He does not contradict what you said re: combox requirement, but is saying the combox media should be standard on US F30s. http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...13#post6778113 While we are at it, why do some non-nav US cars get 6WA extended panel and some do not? Post #4 Quote:
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04-19-2012, 02:03 PM | #113 |
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"BMW have left the expensive option out because a large portion of their customers dont use it, thus saving them money. They have been given the choice not to pay for something they dont want.I understand that you want a job with BMW. But this comment seems very "stand behind your man"... There is literature that BMW has published that is MISLEADING regarding iPod compatibility. This is the year twentytwelve. The iPod/iPhone is prevalent throughout the world now. Support and integration with such devices is common throughout the auto industry. The expense of maintaining functionality for which the company claims support should not be considered expensive, but competitive. The 2012 F30 claims to have standard support for the device and should therefor support the device completely. Supporting the device half heartedly for people who purchase a 45 to 50 thousand dollar car is a travesty and simply unethical. "You can still easily connect the Ipod with the Y-cable and get most functions." "Most functions" doesn't include the same integration with iDrive (iDrive? Really? could we be more Applecentric????) It's sad. I had no idea that getting the enhanced bluetooth and bmw assist option got me better integration with my iPod. The original poster optioned a very nice, very expensive vehicle and he to had no idea he wasn't getting the same integration. Lets face it. If you can afford this vehicle you are more than likely an intelligent person who can read a manual and read a configurator. If it isn't readily apparent that there is a difference to us, then it is the fault of the people creating the documents. The description "Enhanced Bluetooth" doesn't quite spell iPod support. And there is very little documentation explaining what that option really means. Thanks for reading. |
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04-19-2012, 02:10 PM | #114 |
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+1 previous post. There seems to be some kind of fuzzy logic behind this. I wouldn't dare ordering my car without 6NL Enhanced Bluetooth. Since we don't have BMW Assist in Sweden we can buy that option quite cheap.
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04-19-2012, 02:51 PM | #115 | |
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I'm guessing that you can now scroll by artist letter, you have more lines of text to see Artist, Album, Track, etc. Definitely an improvement on the prior "base" setup as iDrive is now "base." In terms of the other options, they are icing on the cake. Ok, so your white apple cable doesn't work, get the Y-cable and all will be fine. Besides, who cares about the Album Art, most people don't even use that function. All I can say is never assume, I did initially as well well but I had some time to make amendments to my order and added BMW Assist. BMW makes it a little confusing but over I don't think all the marketing material is misleading, you just have to read the fine print. |
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04-29-2012, 09:10 PM | #117 |
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I have the y cable with my iPhone 4s and it works great on my 328. I do not have the nav. The question I have is, is there any other USB port besides the center console that can support a thumb drive? I would love also to have a 16gb flash drive if its possible, so I don't have to plug my phone every time.
My manual states there is one in glove box, but was wondering if that only applies to NAV equipped 328 |
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05-14-2012, 10:18 AM | #118 |
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E90fleet, based on what u mentioned, if I have option 6NK, I should be able to connect my iPod classic to the USB port using standard apple white cable and it should work fine?
From what I've read so far, the confusion is largely due to different option and package that went into each car |
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05-14-2012, 01:00 PM | #119 |
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Ok, I just read through this entire thread...WTF?
I ordered a 328i over the weekend, with Tech Package (Nav + Head's Up Display) but I DID NOT get the BMW Assist w/Enhanced BlueTooth & USB. Does that mean I won't be able to use the Apple cable but will HAVE to purchase the BMW Y-Cable in order to use iDrive with my iPod? If so that is CRAP. My Volkswagen has built-in iPod integration, why in the world would a brand-new BMW not have that? |
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Sorry to say this but that's exactly what it means. |
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05-15-2012, 03:29 PM | #121 |
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Other people are now saying their cars came with a Y-cable included in the plastic wrap on their manuals in the glovebox.
I've also heard other people saying that if you have NAV (regardless of BMW Assist/Enhanced USB/BT) then you can use the standard Apple cable. Basically, it sounds like no one actually knows wtf is going on. |
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05-25-2012, 04:52 PM | #122 |
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Before I ordered my car, I head read somewhere else that current BMWs didn't require the y-cable, so I didn't really think too much about it when I ordered my car. After reading this thread I see that that information was wrong.
The BMW configurator doesn't even mention how the USB is enhanced. The fact that BMW is still going with some archane USB + y-cable combo when everyone else simply uses a fully functioning USB is idiotic. This question has been asked a few times in the thread - but haven't seen an answer. Can anyone comment on how much the sound quality is degraded by having to use the Y-cable? My dad has the upgraded sound system and y-cable in his '09 335i, and if the cable shifts while he's driving, you can hear one of the channels go out slightly - maybe he needs a better cable. My iPod 160GB is filled w/ apple lossless files, but it looks like I'll have to convert all my music to wav and stick it in a large hdd. Anyway - I called my CA after I read this thread and asked if it was still possible to add BMW assist and he says it's too late. He got the VIN and the car is in production. I'm a little irritated with him too - when I'm having to explain the differences between options to HIM, doesn't give me a lot of faith in the guy. Sorry, I'm just irked ..I thought I had ensured this wouldn't be an issue (and was looking fwd to hear the upgraded HK system in my car). |
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It looks like their marketeers have tried a multi price point approach to technology but it has only resulted in confusing their customers.
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Enhanced Bluetooth not needed - just that BMW cable
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I don't have the enhanced BLuetooth but mine works fine. The trick as has been said is that you need the BMW cable. Bit of a con, but it does work. Why not go to the dealer and have them plu a proper cable in to prove or eliminate that. It takes few moments to sync everything when connecting but works fine after that. |
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I've said it before and I will say it again: that whole combox blahblah does not convince me. I don't buy that bs.
BMW claims (quoting E90Fleet) that not a lot of their customers are using this expensive option. 1) "Not a lot of customers" --> I am very certain that a lot of BMW owners do use an iPhone or an iPod. Or are they living on Mars?? 2) "this expensive option" --> that is the problem of BMW r&d. I am sure their tech guys are able to deliver a cheap solution for full iPod/iPhone integration, but they just didn't. Maybe the management is hiding between excuse (1) and want to get an additional 700 EUR from their customers, I don't know. If you are able to deliver things as a HUD, Lane Assist, etc, you must have full iPod/iPhone integration standard.
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Sorry if this is redundant, I don't feel like reading 6 pages. Mine is US spec w/o BMW apps or enhanced Bluetooth, etc. it came with the black cable from BMW and the iPod does interface with playlists, etc.
As a side note the cable did not give a good audio connection but luckily I "forgot" to return previous Y cable when I turned in my 528i lease, and I used that one. If my car didn't come with the cable I would definitely have pressured the dealership to give me one free!
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didn't get w/ our 328i.. did get it with the X3.. i just told the dealer to give us one for the 328, he did.
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For those that are interested, I did a test of various formats on my dad's 09 335.
ALAC, WAV, WMA lossless. Only formats that work: wav 16/44, wma lossless 16/44. For the majority of my lossless music that is fine, but any of my high res music will need to be downsampled. I'm going to take my ipod and a 240GB ssd and see which dac sounds better. |
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Hi there! I am from Germany. As you know the configuration options recently changed (http://www.automotiveworld.com/news-...r-spring-2013/) The simple USB and Bluetooth is now standard. Interesting is a new option which is called: Enhanced Bluetooth functionality with USB audio interface (in German it's called: Komforttelefonie mit erweiterter Smartphone-Anbindung) Code: 6NS This has nothing to do with Assist and/or Nav. It's a little different from the previous options but includes some features.... plus it adds some. I only have the German description: "Erweiterte Freisprecheinrichtung ermöglicht die Verbindung von bis zu zwei Mobiltelefonen und einem Audioplayer gleichzeitig über Bluetooth mit dem Fahrzeug. Die Bedienung der gekoppelten Endgeräte erfolgt über die Bedienelemente des Fahrzeugs. Erweiterung durch optionalen Snap-In-Adapter für Ladefunktion und Verbindung zur Außenantenne möglich. Informationen zur Endgerätekompatibilität und Verfügbarkeit Snap-In Adapter unter www.bmw.com/bluetooth. Erweiterte USB-Schnittstelle mit Anschlussmöglichkeit für MP3-Player, Apple iPhone/iPod oder USB-Speichersticks zum Abspielen von Audiodateien über das Audiosystem des Fahrzeugs. Drahtlose Wiedergabe von Audiodateien ausgewählter Geräte über Bluetooth möglich (Audio-Streaming). Spracheingabesystem Bedienung von Fahrzeug Ausstattungen wie z. B. Telefon, Navigationssystem, Radio oder Fahrzeugeinstellungen über gesprochene Kommandos. " I just ordered mine and chose this option. I did not order the Nav. Now I am not sure if I should remove this option. What I want is: Use my iPod Touch and have the best possible integration. I know that this should still work with an Y-Cable. I called the hotline and they told me that this new option gives you better(?) control over your iPod. Not sure what that means Since you can control it when using an Y-Cable I don't know what should be better... The option is 500 EUR and I am not willing to pay that only to have the possibility to use the standard white USB cable instead of an Y-Cable. In case I find out more details, I am gonna post them here. Album art is still not shown without a Nav. That's what they told me for sure. Even with this option. |
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I have a nov. 2013 build date on my 320ixdrive, base system, I purchased the black y adapter, plugged in my apple gen 2, and it reads on the screen, shows title, time elapsed ect, but no audio.. am I missing something?? yes volume is up..lol..
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