[Halsifer]

Originally Posted by m3eng

What... I got my 2015 F30 M sport last week and my car does not have fog lights. Do I have to get specific package or option? Or is it standard?

That's so weird... You know, I'm starting to think they messed up on OP's vehicle or something. I'm not sure why you wouldn't have fog lamps if his came with it.

Originally Posted by roundel335

2013 335i M-Sport here; no fogs, and I knew there would be none when I ordered it. Apparently they've figured out how to put the fogs in the lower grilles without a negative effect on airflow to the aux coolers. Wonder if these can be retrofit? It's possible the wiring harness for them is there, just capped off, maybe?

They've always had fog on European M-Sports, just not the US M-Sports ones. So yes, it is possible to retrofit and code in fog lamps. However after looking around, I think it'll cost a little over $1000.

[chiefneil]

Originally Posted by F36 Pilot

Yeah, I noticed at my local dealer that the stickers on most of the 3's and 4's showed they were built in South Africa. I guess you have to order one if you want it made in Germany.

Dealer's allocation slots are for both Germany and SA. Unless you specify which country you'll just get the next available slot which could be either.

In my case I needed a shorter delivery time so my CA gave me a slot from Germany.

I've seen threads debating quality of one plant vs the other, but nothing that convinces me there's a difference.

[Bernard335]

Originally Posted by roundel335

2013 335i M-Sport here; no fogs, and I knew there would be none when I ordered it. Apparently they've figured out how to put the fogs in the lower grilles without a negative effect on airflow to the aux coolers. Wonder if these can be retrofit? It's possible the wiring harness for them is there, just capped off, maybe?

I really doubt they only figured it out now. Because some countries have always had them fitted straight from factory from when the F30 was launched

[alex2364]

It seems like they're making some 2015 M Sport with fog lights. Just saw this 2015 335i on a dealer's website.

[trk411]

Wonder if it could be related to tranny type? I have a 6mt. No clue really, just a thought.

[alex2364]

I just saw two 2015 335i M Sport with M Sport brakes that doesn't have fog lights. It seems like if you don't want fog lights, you have to order M Sport brakes.

[falar]

The M-Sport diesels, wagons, and GTs have always had fog lights. Its the F30 sedans with M-Sport (American market) that have them omitted in favor of additional cooling.

[moviebumm]

Originally Posted by alex2364

I just saw two 2015 335i M Sport with M Sport brakes that doesn't have fog lights. It seems like if you don't want fog lights, you have to order M Sport brakes.

Looks like the new 442M orbit grey rims.

[trk411]

Originally Posted by F32 N55

I want the OP to make sure he got a 335 and not a 328.

OP, enter your VIN in bmwarchive.org and see if your get your 520 fog lights listed in the build please.


http://www.bmwarchive.org/vin/bmw-vin-decoder.html

Just entered in the VIN and S520A (fog lights) is listed. Interestingly enough, it also lists S823A (hot climate version). I wonder wtf BMW is doing here.....

[nop]

Originally Posted by trk411

Just entered in the VIN and S520A (fog lights) is listed. Interestingly enough, it also lists S823A (hot climate version). I wonder wtf BMW is doing here.....

Same here. My car is on a ship to the U.S. and shows

S520A Nebelscheinwerfer Fog lights

I did not expect this. It's an F30 335i, M sport with 18" rims and non M perf brakes.

I'm not sure I want the fog lights, honestly. I liked the inlets all black.

Oh, and don't worry about hot climate versions, that's normal. Many car makers make hot and cold weather versions of their cars that either operate better in the anticipated temperature range, or just save them money by avoiding unnecessary features. if you don't live somewhere that requires engine block heaters then you are in the hot weather region.

[m3eng]

Hm. I have 2015 F30 335i 6 MT, M sport with M Sport (blue) brakes. I have no fog lights. what does brake have to do with fog lights though...

[RoundelM3]

Originally Posted by Bernard335

I really doubt they only figured it out now. Because some countries have always had them fitted straight from factory from when the F30 was launched

Whatever the reason, the next question is whether or not these new grille/foglight assemblies can be retrofitted. I definitely would like to have foglights, but if the wiring/correct switch is missing and needs to be added, that could add significant cost, and then there's the whole installation thing. It would be nice if the wiring is already in place, as previously mentioned.

[Tony M]

I have an F32 M-Sport 428i with the M-sport brakes in Australia. It has the foglights. I'm happy with that, but just a bit amused that BMW seems to consider Australia a country where hot weather isn't a problem, but fog is.

I was also intrigued to note that the left foglight turns on when I turn left and the right one turns on when I turn right. I didn't think to check if this is only with the headlights set on auto. This is in addition to the headlights swiveling with turns.

We also get the full adaptive headlight bit with the blocking of the beam to prevent dazzling oncoming cars and cars in front - no extra coding needed if adaptive headlights are specified. Living in a semi-rural area, I use this a lot and it is impressive most of the time, but there are occasional glitches. When I get close to our driveway (unlit rural), it invariably switches the high beam off completely like it does in well-lit areas and I can't see what it's reacting to apart from a very small reflecting property number sign that's only about 4x4". Generally, large highway reflecting signs get ignored. Suppose I'll cover the sign sometime and see if this is the culprit.

[snelldogg]

Originally Posted by roundel335

Whatever the reason, the next question is whether or not these new grille/foglight assemblies can be retrofitted. I definitely would like to have foglights, but if the wiring/correct switch is missing and needs to be added, that could add significant cost, and then there's the whole installation thing. It would be nice if the wiring is already in place, as previously mentioned.

i too would like to add to my 2014 Msport, 6mt with sport brakes. Please let us know what you find on costs for parts.

thanks!

[G30 B58]

Originally Posted by snelldogg

i too would like to add to my 2014 Msport, 6mt with sport brakes. Please let us know what you find on costs for parts.

thanks!

Pretty sure I saw a DIY posted for this here.

[Danman5666]

Well, I have my 2015 M-Sport on order. Once I get my full VIN built out, I'll let what I see on the build sheet.

[Maxdog]

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

Someone made an error..

I thought I'd miss them on my F32 Msport, but I like the look without them.

Same here

[xG35c]

Just curious, since the fog lights now perform as cornering and reverse clearance lights, and apparently the inner lights that used to do this are just dummy projector bulbs, do M Sports w/o fog lights lose these features?

[ssmtsx]

Originally Posted by xG35c

Just curious, since the fog lights now perform as cornering and reverse clearance lights, and apparently the inner lights that used to do this are just dummy projector bulbs, do M Sports w/o fog lights lose these features?

Yes...but I have found the corner light function just makes it looks like you have a fog light burnt out.

[Tim@codemybimmer]

Originally Posted by ssmtsx

Yes...but I have found the corner light function just makes it looks like you have a fog light burnt out.

It's funny, I've noticed most German cars, be it a 3er or a Golf, have the cornering function.

[Bernard335]

When I had my GTI 6 it didn't have the cornering lights function as it had bi-xenon headlights.

My Fog lights do not come on when cornering, I do have the Xenon lights. Is there a way to switch on the cornering light function. If there is a way let me know would like to try it out.

[Axman85]

No fogs on my 2013 US 335 M-Sport even though my window sticker lists them as part of the car.