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I agree with you that we won't get a six cylinder diesel F3x, kevlartoronto.
I still don't think there is any chance that they will invest money into a more powerful diesel engine just for the US market. If there is a single turbo N47 making ~200hp in the cards then it will be rolled out globally. And that may very well happen at some point, though it would more likely be a version of the next generation B47 engine instead. And it would almost surely be accompanied by a higher power 325d model as well. Furthermore it is not at all clear that 200hp N47 would be cheaper to bring to the US than a 200hp+ N47TT. It is not the case, after all, that the latter motor can never meet US emissions standards under any circumstances or at any cost. They just have chosen not to make the investment to do so. If they do decide to invest money, that engine is the more likely target to get the money in my opinion. |
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I was only speculating that they might tweak the 320d but as you guys have pointed out the twin turbo version has 218 hp so maybe the 320d is near its limit. If its just a rebadged 320d it will be very interesting to see how they price it. It's kind of bogus of bmw to just rebadge the 320d or the 325d for that matter.
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did they mention the timeline of it's introduction? funny in germany a 328i xdrive is 2100 euro more than a 320d xdrive. if they price it like a 328i i won't even consider it. it's annoying enough we won't be getting a manual or rwd version of this car.
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01-28-2013, 09:47 PM | #140 |
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Well, if the 280 lb-ft figure is true, it means it's got 184hp - those are 320d figures.
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01-29-2013, 12:09 PM | #141 |
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Vehicle information VIN long WBA3D5C50DF147019 Type code 3D5C Type 328D XD (USA) Dev. series F30 () Line 3 Body type LIM Steering LL Door count 4 Engine N47T Cubical capacity 2.00 Power 135 Transmision ALLR Gearbox AUT Colour ALPINWEISS 3 (300) Upholstery LEDER DAKOTA/SATTELBRAUN EXKLUSIVNA (LCLX) Prod. date 2012-09-11 Order options No. Description 2H2 18"A. WHEELS MULTI-SPOKE STYLE 416 2VL VARIABLE SPORTS STEERING 248 STEERING WHEEL HEATING 255 SPORTS LEATHER STEERING WHEEL 3AG BACKUP CAMERA 302 ALARM SYSTEM 319 INTEGRATED UNIVERSAL REMOTE CONTROL 322 COMFORT ACCESS SYSTEM 4AE ARMREST FRONT RETRACTABLE 4CE FINE-WOOD TRIM FINELINE ANTHRACITE 4DM HIGH.TRIM FIN. PEARL GLOSS CHROME 403 GLAS ROOF, ELECTRIC 423 FLOOR MATS, VELOUR 430 INT/EXT RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-DAZZLE 431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-D 441 SMOKERS PACKAGE 459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W. MEMORY 465 THROUGH-LOAD SYSTEM 481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 488 LUMBAR SUPPORT DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 496 SEAT HEATING FOR REAR SEATS 5AC AUTOM. HIGH-BEAM HEADLIGHTS CONTROL 5AD LANE DEVIATION WARNING 5AG LANE CHANGE WARNING 5AP DECODING FOR NO-DAZZLE HIGH-BEAM AS 5DC FOLDING REAR-SEAT HEADRESTS 5DL SURROUND VIEW 508 PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC) 521 RAIN SENSOR 522 XENON LIGHT 524 ADAPTIVE HEADLIGHTS 534 AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING 548 SPEEDOMETER WITH KILOMETER READING 563 LIGHTS PACKAGE 6AA BMW TELESERVICES 6AB CONTROL TELESERVICES 6NF EXT.CON.OF THE MUSIC PLAY.I.MOBILPH 6NL CONNECT. BLUETOOTH A.USB DEVICES IN 6NR APPS 6VA CIC CONTROL 6WA INSTRUMENT CLUSTER W. EXTENDED CONT 609 NAVIGATION SYSTEM PROFESSIONAL 610 HEAD UP DISPLAY 612 BMW ASSIST 655 SATELLITE RADIO 688 HARMAN/KARDON SURROUND SOUND SYSTEM 697 AREA-CODE 1 7S2 LUXURY LINE 8KC OELSERVICEINT. 24.000KM/24MONTHS 8SC COUNTRY SPEC. RELEASE OF TELESERVICE 8S4 DECODING VARIABLE LIGHT DISTRIBUTIO 8TH SPEED LIMIT INFO 838 CANADIAN VERSION 9AA EXTERNAL SKIN PROTECTION 903 SPECIAL CHECK TRADE FAIR/PHOTO VEHICLE 909 ANALYSECONNECTOR 925 SHIPPING PROTECTION PACKAGE 991 PRE-SERIES MANAGEMENT 995 CHANGE BAN Series options No. Description 1CB CO2 CONTENT 205 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 249 MULTI-FUNCTION FOR STEERING WHEEL 258 RUNFLAT TYRES 5DS LUGGAGE-COMPARTMENT EMERG. RELEASE 520 FOGLIGHTS 544 CRUISE CONTROL WITH BRAKING FUNCTION 645 RADIO CONTROL US 823 HOT CLIMATE VERSION 845 ACOUSTIC BELT WARNING 853 LANGUAGE VERSION ENGLISH 876 RADIO FREQUENCY 315 MHZ 992 NUMBER PLATE ATTACHEMENT MANAGEMENT 993 MODEL YEAR CODE Individual data no access - Vehicle data protected
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01-29-2013, 01:01 PM | #142 |
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And there we have our answer: 135kW engine is exactly what is sold in Europe as 320d.
Booster, where did you manage to pull this info? None of the public sites I know of can show anything about this VIN. |
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booster, would you be able to find out if the sport suspension and sport automatic and/or manual transmission will be avail? more details next time.
a 328d huh? but it's really a 320d. i smell a marketing snow job coming. Last edited by kevlartoronto; 01-29-2013 at 02:57 PM.. |
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Sport suspension and sport auto will be avail...
No manual planned ...this is what I have "heard"
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01-29-2013, 04:54 PM | #147 |
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So it sounds like we can likewise expect the N57 models coming soon to North America to be rebranded *35d as well (as the 335d is in Japan like someone mentioned earlier).
I am glad we are getting diesels, and in more models than ever. So don't get me wrong. For some folks these are just what the doctor ordered. But I am not interested in sacrificing performance as compared to gasoline models - not just from BMW but from other manufacturers as well. The rebadging only adds insult to injury. It is ironic that, just as BMW is starting to shoot for power/performance parity between similarly numbered diesel and gasoline models in the ROW, we get just the opposite. |
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i wish bmw would match the offering of the 328i. i.e. offer a rwd version with a manual and auto and a xdrive with auto only if they want to cut corners. |
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01-29-2013, 09:34 PM | #149 |
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http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...catalogue.html can be used to see what 328d's have been built already (something bmwvin.com and the like don't show). Just start with VIN F147000 and go from there.
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If you feel BMW Canada is not offering the options or combinations you would want, I encourage you to write them and express your opinion,
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01-30-2013, 07:29 PM | #152 |
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Guys,
Look at VIN F776000... hopefully it'll come over in Canada (I have reason to think it will). Edit: Look at this... Vehicle information VIN long WBA3K3C56EF775503 Type code 3K3C Type 328D (USA) Dev. series F31 () Line 3 Body type TOUR Steering LL Door count 5 Engine N47T Cubical capacity 2.00 Power 135 Transmision HECK Gearbox AUT Colour SPARKLING BRONZE METALLIC (B06) Upholstery SENSATEC 1/SCHWARZ/AKZENT ROT (KCL3) Prod. date 0001-01-01 Order options No. Description 1CA SELECTION COP RELEVANT VEHICLES 2A5 18"LT/ALY WHEELS DOUBLE SPOKE 397 2TB SPORT AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 2VF ADAPTIV M SUSPENSION 255 SPORTS LEATHER STEERING WHEEL 4AT INT.TR.FINI. BLACK HIGH-GLOSS 4DN HIGH.TRIM FIN. CORAL RED MATT 423 FLOOR MATS, VELOUR 428 WARNING TRIANGLE 481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 548 SPEEDOMETER WITH KILOMETER READING 6VB CONTROL INFOTAINMENT 655 SATELLITE RADIO 697 AREA-CODE 1 7AC SPORT LINE 8EB SINGLE CONTROL APPROVAL 8KC OELSERVICEINT. 24.000KM/24MONTHS 838 CANADIAN VERSION 909 ANALYSECONNECTOR 925 SHIPPING PROTECTION PACKAGE 991 PRE-SERIES MANAGEMENT Series options No. Description 1CB CO2 CONTENT 216 SERVOTRONIC 249 MULTI-FUNCTION FOR STEERING WHEEL 258 RUNFLAT TYRES 3AA ROOF RAILS BLACK 402 PANORAMA GLASS ROOF 520 FOGLIGHTS 544 CRUISE CONTROL WITH BRAKING FUNCTION 645 RADIO CONTROL US 823 HOT CLIMATE VERSION 845 ACOUSTIC BELT WARNING 853 LANGUAGE VERSION ENGLISH 876 RADIO FREQUENCY 315 MHZ 992 NUMBER PLATE ATTACHEMENT MANAGEMENT 993 MODEL YEAR CODE Individual data no access - Vehicle data protected BRONZE with black leather & RED ACCENTS??? Is BMW toying with us?
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hey shag where did you dig up that vin? the toronto auto show is in less than 2 weeks now and i'll be going the first friday. hopefully bmw will be showing more details on the 328d. boy, if they price the car like the 328i xdrive i'll be moving on.
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I'm pretty sure the 328d will have 320d specs... And we might not get it in Touring form anytime soon...
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