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DIY Rear Differential Install
This is write-up is not meant to be a complete standalone DIY. This is just bits and pieces of advice/suggestions I have for the DIYer when following the ISTAD procedures pdf I posted in Post #145. I recommend doing this procedure with the help of another person. My girlfriend is awesome because she wakes up at 5am on Sundays to help me out on these installs.
I finally received all the tools after 2-3 weeks since the special Torx socket needed to be shipped from Germany. All special tools and parts came from getBMWparts. They were extremely helpful in translating BMW tool numbers to part numbers. Pry-bar of Thor. BMW Tool # 33 5 120. BMW Part Number 83300495851. This is required for the removal and install of the rear differential. I haven’t come up with an alternative way around (as laid out in previous posts) so I dropped some coin on it. BMW went away from the bolted output shaft design so this special tool is now required. Here’s how the BMW M Performance Limited Slip Differential came: It comes with a new insert nut so you don’t need to order the repair kit when ordering this differential. First off, remove the exhaust system and remove the heat shields as performed in Post #145. Next, disconnect the propeller shaft. I supported the propeller shaft with two jack stands. I then slackened (not fully removed) the two bolts holding the center universal joint (bearing). I secured the propeller shaft against rotation by inserting a screw driver through the u-joint. Usually this is not recommended, however, the BMW ISTAD Rheingold specifies this as an acceptable way to brace the propeller shaft. My guess is that there’s sufficient resistance already since the propeller shaft remains bolted to the transmission. Then, open the insert nut which connects the propeller shaft to the rear differential. I used a HP Autowerks differential tool for this step. The insert nut must be opened in a CLOCKWISE direction. The insert nut is opposite of normal tightening/loosening directions. Propeller shaft disconnected from the rear differential. Remove the rear vibration damper. Removal on my car required a special Torx E10 socket (BMW tool # 2 240 515 and part number # 83302240515) Now support the differential using a transmission/differential jack. The jack I used wasn’t the best. The chain used to secure it didn’t secure it that well, so I would recommend 1-2 ratcheting straps for someone doing this in the future. The reason is because you will need to tilt the differential to remove and install the output shafts. Make sure you strap it down between the final differential (back) cover and axle shafts. Now remove the left (passenger side) output shaft based on the ISTAD Rheingold procedure. You won’t be able to remove the right (driver’s side) output shaft just quite yet. The rear differential mount blocks you from getting a good point of leverage using the special pry bar from the right side. Use jerky movements and the output shaft will eventually pop out. Now that you have pressed out the left output shaft, you can release the two front differential bolts using an 18mm socket and breaker bar. This is a long bolt so once you have it loosened, you can go ahead and use an air ratchet to remove it. Make sure you’ve properly supported the differential with that transmission jack. Remove the rear bolt. There is a nut on the back of the bolt which needs to be replaced. You’ll need to use a breaker bar to secure the nut against rotating with the bolt when you are trying to remove it. I believe they both were 21mm. Now lower the rear differential. Pry out the right (driver’s side) output shaft. This one gave me heartache because I could not find a good place on the actual differential to use as a leverage point for the special pry bar. I ended up needed to reinsert the front and back differential bolts and then pressing against the transmission jack to pop out the right output shaft. Stock open rear differential finally lowered. Place the new BMW M Performance Limited Slip Differential on the transmission jack and secure it using chain/ratcheting straps. Unfortunately, I missed a lot of photos at when trying to get the output shafts into the new differential. This was the toughest part of the job in my opinion. The steps I took were different than what is written in ISTAD Rheingold. The steps I took were roughly in this order:
Now insert the front and rear differential bolts/nuts but do not torque down yet. Release the chain/ratcheting strap. Lower your transmission jack. Differential should be in position. Now it’s time to connect the propeller shaft back to the differential. Once you start to screw the insert nut in, you have approximately 5 mins to complete this procedure. I don’t have many pictures for this portion of the install but here are the rough steps I took:
Picture of final install: Reinstall heat shields and complete exhaust system. Total time for my install: 6 hours I don’t think I could ever get it down to the 2 hours spec’d for dealers in BMW KSD. I think if I were to do it again, I could do it around 3 hours. Initial review of the differential: It's awesome compared to the stock open differential. When you're accelerating hard out of a turn, you can hear the clutches working and no DSC/traction control intervention to be found. I can't wait to experiment with this at some HPDEs this upcoming season. Last edited by Polo08816; 07-07-2017 at 07:29 PM.. |
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Congrats Polo and great write-up! Really appreciate your efforts in posting pics and giving us details. Due to adding power to the new-to-me 435i and planning occasional road course track events, am having the M LSD installed shortly.
IMHO the LSD should have been standard, or at least part of something like the MPPK package or.... Thanks again Polo, looks like a solid upgrade for drivers.
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If anyone is interested, I'm selling the tools I used for this DIY here:
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Amazing write-up... thanks a lot for sharing this
I have one quick question... in all the manuals I see the instruction that the insert nut on the differential to driveshaft connection will "harden", and that you need to complete the procedure in 5 minutes or so... is there some kind of glue or locktite on the nut? |
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It's working out real well. I like it so far and the engagement has become smoother and less noisy after the first 1,500 miles.
It's a great feeling when you can be more aggressive on the throttle coming out of a turn, especially in less than inclement conditions. The rear drive wheels just hook up. There is minor DSC intervention, but my guess is that's when the DSC system detects a difference of average wheel speed between the front and rear axles - and not side to side With an open diff, you could feel the rear sway left and right when the DSC system was pulsating the brakes. Quote:
There is no glue or loctite on the nut, but the instructions do call for the application of a grease to the insert nut parts. 83230417754 GREASE |
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Thanks for the detailed write-up. A few questions:
1) Isn't the half-shaft simply held into the diff with typical retention cir-clip? Do you think the BMW pry bar is necessary? The reason I ask is many FWD cars use this arrangement and simply tugging on the half-shaft and universal housing will release the cir-clip. Perhaps there's not enough room to do that or maybe a lot of force is needed to unseat the cir-clip? 2) With respect to getting the half-shafts back into the diff, can you not simply push them in with a quick forward jolt to seat the cir-clip? Again, this comes from my FWD car days. 3) Did you need to loosen and/or remove anything from the suspension like control arms, sway bar links, etc? |
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How much should I expect the dealership to charge for this install?
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I ordered an M Performance differential for my 340i 8AT. The local dealers asked for ridiculous prices ($2500 & $3500 without labor).
It seems like no additional parts are needed for installation. (such as differential oil, gaskets, nuts, bolts, etc.) The local independent shop doing the installation may not have the parts on hand and I would like to order them ahead of time. Can anyone confirm this? |
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There are some clips that aren't strictly needed but a good idea and I think they are like a few bucks. The fluid can be 100 bux if you use the BMW fluid. Mine came filled with fluid from the parts department as part of the price.
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BTW this will be my next upgrade! Running a stock tune on the street with an open diff is all good but once you bump the power with a tune it's apparent an LSD is needed!
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Gotcha!! I would love to do it myself but don't have access to a lift and I'm pretty sure doing this on my back with the car on jack stands would not be that enjoyable
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I just had the LSD installed yesterday and the technician said to bring it back after 1200 miles for the fluid change. Also curious as he said that the diff is initially filled with brake fluid? |
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