[bavarianride]

Originally Posted by focal

$$$$ I negotiated a fixed price at the time of buying the car since we cannot install at port here in Canada and due to delay in getting the parts (see VIP) they offered a further discount. it was frustrating to wait but the service manager advised his best tech to take his time. he took 14 hours!!! but I think if they had to do it again, the book rate of 6-9 hours is about right.

price I paid was much less than newoldbeemer, but it's a tough bill to swallow regardless of what's paid. Get it installed at delivery if you can.

Maybe BMWNA will offer the M options on post-LCI US-spec F30's at reasonable prices. The price differences on parts are not that much, but the savings on labors would be huge. BTW the base needs the rear and front anti-roll bars that come with the sport-line/M-sport for the MPSK swap.

[focal]

Originally Posted by newoldbeemer

Well there are three factors here: your car is a sportline, so some of the suspension components will be reused when doing MPS install. In a base car, all the suspension components have to be replaced. That probably accounts for a big difference in price.

Second, since you did the install at delivery, they probably took the original suspension components and either sold them or returned them to BMW or something like that. Just guessing.

Third, you are in a different country than me. Not sure if that can be a factor but I think prices tend to differ a little bit based on country.

my sport line did NOT Have the sports suspension so I needed the sways installed. Sports suspension was an option on CDN sport line models in 2012 and 2013. Hence the long install time for the sways. I had a BASE suspension. The MPS was installed almost three months after taking delivery since the correct parts weren't found or delivered correctly to the dealer from BMW Canada. I got the old suspension returned to me.

Lastly, Canada MSRP$ is MUCH > US $ for the MPS and any BMW OEM part/car so the price i got was very good.

[focal]

Originally Posted by f30D

I finally broke my engine in and took the Msport suspension for a proper ride this weekend. 328dMline-Let me tell you, my old 13 328I Shit line would be screaming at 80mph on a bend behind my house. I flew by that same section of curves at 120 with no loss of control. needless to say I kept the garage open that night and cooled her down for 30 min. First time I ever heard the after cooler hahaha I wouldn't dare take my old f30 328I down that road side ways at those speeds. The car has a different personality. I drive hard, there is no choice for me.

real M3/4 > MPS > Msport DHP > Msport > Base suspension

[bavarianride]

Originally Posted by focal

real M3/4 > MPS > Msport DHP > Msport > Base suspension

So maybe it would be wise to spring for a M3 then. A US-spec 335i MT optioned to M3 MT US- spec(including M sport brake, MPE, MPPK, MPSK, and ZTP, ZPP, etc, etc) is probably similarly priced as M3(and minus the extra hp/lb-ft and hardware), esp. with the extra labor hours on M performance upgrades.

[focal]

Originally Posted by bavarianride

So maybe it would be wise to spring for a M3 then. A US-spec 335i MT optioned to M3 MT US- spec(including M sport brake, MPE, MPPK, MPSK, and ZTP, ZPP, etc, etc) is probably similarly priced as M3(and minus the extra hp/lb-ft and hardware), esp. with the extra labor hours on M performance upgrades.

for some people, you cannot let things stay stock. Have you priced out modifying a M?

modded M3/4 > stock M3/4

and for some a modded but loaded 335i is close enough to a stock M3 because of the visual improvements and real world uses (not taking to a track). for a daily driver, a modded 335i is a better proposition. Cheaper parts to maintain and the hobby of planning/buying/installing mods.

[newoldbeemer]

Originally Posted by focal

my sport line did NOT Have the sports suspension so I needed the sways installed. Sports suspension was an option on CDN sport line models in 2012 and 2013. Hence the long install time for the sways. I had a BASE suspension. The MPS was installed almost three months after taking delivery since the correct parts weren't found or delivered correctly to the dealer from BMW Canada. I got the old suspension returned to me.

Lastly, Canada MSRP$ is MUCH > US $ for the MPS and any BMW OEM part/car so the price i got was very good.

That's good to know you got a good price!

Why would anyone want to modify a new m3? Aren't those things perfect?

[M-terkait]

Originally Posted by newoldbeemer

Why would anyone want to modify a new m3? Aren't those things perfect?

Nothing in this world is Perfect

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by newoldbeemer

I read many threads on BMW forums where people switch to non RFTs and are surprised that they lost turn-in crispness / sharpness, possibly because of softer sidewalls.

Wish I could test drive an f30 with non-RFTs to see for myself

When I took off the OEM RFT and put Michelin PSS (staggered OEM 18" sizes) on my car the increase in turn-in crispness was beyond another level. Different tires than PSS may provide different results, but I can attest that my car became WAY better after donating the OEM RFT to a friend!

[munch520]

Originally Posted by newoldbeemer

And the MPS tribe grows

Add another here MPS 'on order' with getBMWparts. My Msport 328 is still on the boat but I have an install appt for 7/3. Spacers and MPS will be on the car in the first 250mi

[vip]

Originally Posted by newoldbeemer

Oh and make sure the springs are red. Those are the correct ones.

[munch520]

Now I can just sit around and look at it til my car gets here. Thanks for the recommendation/PMs vip! Really nice that it comes with all the necessary bushings. No re using.

[newoldbeemer]

Originally Posted by munch520

Now I can just sit around and look at it til my car gets here. Thanks for the recommendation/PMs vip! Really nice that it comes with all the necessary bushings. No re using.

You got the suspension before the car?! We enthusiasts are crazy! Nice

[munch520]

Originally Posted by newoldbeemer

You got the suspension before the car?! We enthusiasts are crazy! Nice

Suspension, painted reflectors, spacers, the list goes on...I want it to be set the way I want from day one. And many thanks to this forum for helping me to get those preferences dialed in!

My wife just sits here and rolls her eyes lol

[DVC]

Originally Posted by newoldbeemer

You got the suspension before the car?! We enthusiasts are crazy! Nice

Yep, much of what we do is crazy to most folks...

[vip]

Originally Posted by munch520

Now I can just sit around and look at it til my car gets here. Thanks for the recommendation/PMs vip! Really nice that it comes with all the necessary bushings. No re using.

awesome! You gonna love it man! Yep, they include everything in it, even new bolts.

[focal]

got some passenger seat time this past weekend, as I tossed my keys to my brother who's been itching to try my F30 328i RWD 6MT w/ MPS

FYI - current owner of E91, E61, X3, E46 330xi

after a few drives, he started to push it and barely could loose grip. His first words to describe it was "balanced". I have set up square 245/40/18 with non run flats. He couldn't get it to over steer nor understeer (within reasonable driving).

Detroit roads are rough in spots and it handled them really well. Very compliant.

He was really impressed with the MPS and in the end thought it was really good value for real world uses.

[Monkey Punk]

so jealous right now.

I am going to be waiting a loooooong time for my bmw and can't wait to get this done.

[shivaswrath]

Originally Posted by amoeba

For those that have M performance suspension, how's the ride? Is it too rough to bear or is it just the right amount of firmness?

I'm coming from an E46 ZHP where the suspension felt "just right". Firm but not punishing. Would really like to get back to that feel as much as possible.

It's just right....

[munch520]

For those have you that have put this on, I'm familiarizing myself with all the parts before I head to a shop for install. Want to be able to answer the tech/installer's questions if they arise, especially this came with zero directions.

Where do the circled components go? I'm assuming around the shocks somewhere based on their size and shape but just want to confirm...



TIA!

[munch520]

Bump - anyone know the answer to the above question?

Thanks

[therealm3]

Originally Posted by munch520

For those have you that have put this on, I'm familiarizing myself with all the parts before I head to a shop for install. Want to be able to answer the tech/installer's questions if they arise, especially this came with zero directions.

Where do the circled components go? I'm assuming around the shocks somewhere based on their size and shape but just want to confirm...



TIA!

pic is a bit blurry, but based on my install of the E90, the top two look like rubber spring pads for the rear spring and the bottom item looks like the front spring pad.

[vip]

correct. they are rubber mounts for the bottom and top part of the spring. if your shop i reputable, you shouldnt have to explain to them how to install it all ha.