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      05-28-2013, 07:52 PM   #23
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Dealer Name/ Location: Bel Air BMW
Year/Model: 2013 335i
MSRP: $54,748
Invoice: $50,481
Options/Packages: M Sport w/ 19", DHP, Premium, Navi, Heated Front seats, Black Kidney Grilles, 6MT
Cash Down/MSD: $0
Negotiated Price: $50,481
*Money Factor: TBD but worst case .00127
*Lease term/Miles: 10,000/36 months
*Lease Payment: $515
no down payment? how about registration fees? Does your monthly payment include tax?
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2014 335i xDrive Sport Line loaded except Driver Assistant Plus & Active Cruise Control

MSRP $59,325
Invoice $54,730
Sell $54,730

Cash Down $1,500
Loyalty Cash $750

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      05-28-2013, 11:54 PM   #25
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^^^ how did you get a 2014 already? didnt think allocations were open yet ...
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      05-29-2013, 11:26 AM   #26
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no down payment? how about registration fees? Does your monthly payment include tax?
Yes includes everything but the extra money for the CEP in the sale price so thats why the payment is so low
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      05-29-2013, 05:46 PM   #27
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Dealer Name/ Location: Bel Air BMW
Year/Model: 2013 335i
MSRP: $54,748
Invoice: $50,481
Options/Packages: M Sport w/ 19", DHP, Premium, Navi, Heated Front seats, Black Kidney Grilles, 6MT
Cash Down/MSD: $0
Negotiated Price: $50,481
*Money Factor: TBD but worst case .00127
*Lease term/Miles: 10,000/36 months
*Lease Payment: $515
Hi Jason

I'm not getting $515 from the given information. Are you doing MSDs? Because with MSD's (rounded to $600 = .00049MF) that brings it right to $515. In that case that deal is $300 over invoice (IF that invoice price you listed above is including the destination charge with it)...If not its $1726 over invoice.

Justification: No use in giving profit over a MANDATORY charge..find invoice, take a percent profit from that..THEN add the destination charge.


**All figures taken from bmwconfig.com
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      05-29-2013, 06:44 PM   #28
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Hi Jason

I'm not getting $515 from the given information. Are you doing MSDs? Because with MSD's (rounded to $600 = .00049MF) that brings it right to $515. In that case that deal is $300 over invoice (IF that invoice price you listed above is including the destination charge with it)...If not its $1726 over invoice.

Justification: No use in giving profit over a MANDATORY charge..find invoice, take a percent profit from that..THEN add the destination charge.


**All figures taken from bmwconfig.com
Read my post above yours. No I'm not doing any MSD's. Invoice and sale price, includes MACO and black grilles but does not include the extra money taken off for the CEP. That's why the payment is what it is. I meant to leave the payment out so there wouldn't be any confusion
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      05-29-2013, 07:59 PM   #29
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Read my post above yours. No I'm not doing any MSD's. Invoice and sale price, includes MACO and black grilles but does not include the extra money taken off for the CEP. That's why the payment is what it is. I meant to leave the payment out so there wouldn't be any confusion
Thanks for the clarification
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Negotiating the following with Baltimore area dealer:

335i xDrive M Sport in Estoril Blue II:
a- cold weather package
b- driver assistance package
c- dynamic handling package
d- premium package
e- tech package
f- automatic high beams
g- Harmon Kardon sound
h- m sport brakes

Msrp of $55980. He will do a deal at what he is quoting to be $500 over invoice, or $55955.

Anyone else seeing similar deals?
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      05-29-2013, 08:30 PM   #31
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Negotiating the following with Baltimore area dealer:

335i xDrive M Sport in Estoril Blue II:
a- cold weather package
b- driver assistance package
c- dynamic handling package
d- premium package
e- tech package
f- automatic high beams
g- Harmon Kardon sound
h- m sport brakes

Msrp of $55980. He will do a deal at what he is quoting to be $500 over invoice, or $55955.

Anyone else seeing similar deals?
$500 over invoice for that is reasonable. If it's $500 over invoice according to BMWconfig then go for it.
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Thanks, bmw config does not yet have the 2014s up, but in the 2013 I get pretty close.
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I meant to say MSRP of $59800.
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      05-29-2013, 09:06 PM   #34
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That's a good deal for a '14
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Good to know.
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      05-29-2013, 09:59 PM   #36
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Thanks, bmw config does not yet have the 2014s up, but in the 2013 I get pretty close.
I believe 335's only increased $50 (weird, I know), so that should give you a good comparison point.

Plus, considering you'll get the first of dealer allocation for MY2014's, $500 invoice is good, since these slots will probably be competitively priced in most instances at this point.
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      05-29-2013, 10:24 PM   #37
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Yes includes everything but the extra money for the CEP in the sale price so thats why the payment is so low
What is CEP???
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      05-30-2013, 12:13 AM   #38
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What is CEP???
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      05-30-2013, 07:11 AM   #39
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Thanks, bmw config does not yet have the 2014s up, but in the 2013 I get pretty close.
BMW will not put the 2014 up till they are in production from prior history. They want to sell the 2013's off if they can.
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Originally Posted by odb0089 View Post
Negotiating the following with Baltimore area dealer:

335i xDrive M Sport in Estoril Blue II:
a- cold weather package
b- driver assistance package
c- dynamic handling package
d- premium package
e- tech package
f- automatic high beams
g- Harmon Kardon sound
h- m sport brakes

Msrp of $55980. He will do a deal at what he is quoting to be $500 over invoice, or $55955.

Anyone else seeing similar deals?
If that is $500 over invoice for a 14' that is a good deal. Dealer name?
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      05-30-2013, 08:02 AM   #41
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Center employee program
Good to know, I honestly didn't know what you were talking about
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I believe 335's only increased $50 (weird, I know), so that should give you a good comparison point.

Plus, considering you'll get the first of dealer allocation for MY2014's, $500 invoice is good, since these slots will probably be competitively priced in most instances at this point.
I think this will depend on the area. But who knows, I remember when the e90 came out dealers around my area would not budge from MSRP (). However economic situations and consumer sentiment has changed since the so dealers cannot be that picky anymore.
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I'm paying $740 over invoice for my MY13 328i xdrive. I guess my deal wasn't as good as I thought.
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      05-30-2013, 10:51 AM   #44
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I'm paying $740 over invoice for my MY13 328i xdrive. I guess my deal wasn't as good as I thought.
The ballpark of $500 over invoice is considered a fairly good deal. You're just over that so I wouldn't fret.
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