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      05-06-2018, 08:44 AM   #89
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it is wrong of me to kind of want an S4?
It was on my list. If my current choice falls through, it will be on my list again.
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      05-06-2018, 10:48 AM   #90
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I made my decision. I decided to let go of the HUD, getting surround view cameras, and the thought of higher-grade interior materials, and put my name on the list for the M2 Competition. I'm not very far down the list, so hopefully this will work out. This was a long debate, with myself and my SO to play devil's advocate, and there are some downsides to the decision but I'm pretty excited.
Will you have to pay a premium or something to get it?
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      05-06-2018, 12:01 PM   #91
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Will you have to pay a premium or something to get it?
No details available since they don't even have MSRP's and allocations yet. I won't, though. I would walk.
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      05-06-2018, 12:25 PM   #92
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I just placed an order for a S5 Sportback.
I might still walk away from this and go with the G20 M340i if it comes out in time, but looking unlikely.
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      05-06-2018, 02:09 PM   #93
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it is wrong of me to kind of want an S4?
Just test drove a 2018 S4. My god that thing sounds glorious even stock. The blip on downshifts is crazy sexy! And the seat stitching is always top notch. The diamond stitching is beautiful. But I feel I would still opt for the zippy BMW vs the sturdy Quattro.
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      05-06-2018, 03:24 PM   #94
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For those who mentioned the Tesla Model X - that's a big NO. As amazing as they may be performance wise, in terms of fit, finish, and reliability - not so much. QC issues all over the place, and that's across the S, X, and 3.

As for those who mentioned 7-passenger SUVs - I went with a Dodge Durango RT for that. 7 passenger, basically a badged-down Merc GLS 450. And with the SRT version now available, it's like getting an AMG GLS 63 for half the price. Been very happy with mine, my only gripe is the audio but while not a full audiophile I'm just not a fan of the Beats brand in general.

I was shopping for a lightly used 435 while I was still in college a couple years ago. Graduated now and my debate is between buying a townhouse / condo or a BMW. Pricing in the bay area is insane though so I'm thinking if I can't get into a house anytime soon I might as well buy a shiny new toy to enjoy my commuting in. So I'm looking at 440s now or maybe even a used M4. Keep the Durango for those Tahoe snowboarding trips and Santa Cruz surfing days, or any time I'm giving friends a ride somewhere en masse, use the BMW for the golf outings and work and everything else. I also have a motorcycle for when I don't feel like sitting in traffic but these days I'm calling in to meetings while on the road so I actually don't really mind the traffic as much anymore. No rush to be at work when I'm working from the car so...why not right?
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      05-06-2018, 07:14 PM   #95
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If the G20 M340i is available with a manual, then that's it, but it looks like no more manuals for the 3er. M2/3/4 or defect to Porsche.

I'm one of those Manual Gearbox Preservation Society throwbacks despite knee and heel issues. It only hurts getting in/out, once I'm seated it's fine.

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I didn't buy a BMW until the money that I'd invested had accumulated to the point that I was set for life, and I could afford to indulge myself with no regrets. If you're not investing at least 10% of your income you're only robbing your future self.
Off-topic, but genuinely curious: what's your definition of "set for life"?
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What good is making money if you never spend it?
You will spend it. Just means earlier retirement. Maybe even by decades if you plan well, and be young enough to really enjoy it.
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      05-07-2018, 03:10 AM   #98
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Retirement varies by location. I'll have to accumulate a hell of a lot more than I have now if I want to retire in California vs Montana vs Switzerland vs Mexico for example. Might as well enjoy a few things along the way cause I'll be working for a few decades to come.
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      05-07-2018, 11:30 AM   #99
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Ive seen a couple of brand new Camaro on the road over the last week or two and for some reason they have caught my eye.

Not really a fan of modern American "muscle" cars, but there is something about this one that has me at least considering a test drive, just haven't yet figured out why.
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I didn't buy a BMW until the money that I'd invested had accumulated to the point that I was set for life, and I could afford to indulge myself with no regrets. If you're not investing at least 10% of your income you're only robbing your future self.
That's sound advice. Agreed with the investing bit - one of the smartest things an individual can do is either invest money or put it aside for a rainy day. It's unfortunate that high-schools and colleges / universities here don't actually teach you basic life skills, like how to do your taxes, how to get a mortgage, how to negotiate, how to build a sound personal financial plan, etc.
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      05-07-2018, 12:57 PM   #101
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      05-07-2018, 01:00 PM   #102
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I have since abandoned this idea, since whenever I posted it was a good idea - like 2 weeks ago, haha. I just can't do it. I don't really know why I can't do it but I can't. I love my car and I love driving a 3 series every day. I love the sport seats, the ergonomics, the layout of the cockpit, iDrive, the ride, the handling, the M sport steering wheel the near flawless marriage of turbo 4 and 8 speed auto, the look of the car, etc. And I couldn't live with FWD again, either. No way. Thats the one thing about my wife's Tiguan I don't like, is FWD. That car has the 2.0TSI, same engine as the mk6 GTI and if you go heavy throttle from a stop or around a corner, it just gets squirrely. Torque steer is the worst.

The new Jetta looks kind of lame. Only engine is the 1.4T which is like, I mean, come on. 150HP in a near 4000lb car is just weak.

Nah, just gonna keep throwing my money into the a bottomless hole in the ground because at the end of the day, I can't ever go back to driving Accords, Civics, Camrys, whatever. Not to save a $150 a month or whatever. What good is making money if you never spend it?
Haha, I had a feeling it would be short lived for me too. That being said, I typically only lease my cars if they're German. If it was just $150 dollar difference between a $0 down 48 month lease on an accord and a 435/440, it would be a no brainer. A well equipped 4 series here in Toronto will run you at least 2.5x higher monthly payments than a well equipped Accord!!!

Either way, agreed, you have to pay to play. Everything is back on the table at this point though. Anyone have any experience with the Audi e-tron or the new e-Golf? It would be interesting to get a cool car that also isn't super thirsty at the pumps. We pay about $4.50 USD per gallon at the pumps here in Toronto for premium gas
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      05-08-2018, 07:07 AM   #103
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Ive seen a couple of brand new Camaro on the road over the last week or two and for some reason they have caught my eye.

Not really a fan of modern American "muscle" cars, but there is something about this one that has me at least considering a test drive, just haven't yet figured out why.
It's understandable. See if you can take one for a test drive. I'm assuming it's understood that you should choose the 1ss or 2ss with the 6.2L v8.
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Shopping for wife now. She's been in a new Honda Odyssey every 3 years since 2003. Kids are older so she's wanting either SUV/Sedan. At this early stage;

430i MSport
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All optioned in the 50-60k range.

Would love some opinions. Even snarky are welcome. Looks, performance, comfort, reliability will vary among those 4 but she's just starting the research process.
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      05-08-2018, 10:42 AM   #105
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All of the BMW's I want (M340i, M550i, M3) will be unavailable or about to hit LCI when my lease is up.
If you don't want to buy your car outright, you can always extend your lease (I believe for like six months) if you have another BMW on order. That should give you plenty of time for the M340i to come out (and I believe the M550i is a ways away from LCI).
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It's understandable. See if you can take one for a test drive. I'm assuming it's understood that you should choose the 1ss or 2ss with the 6.2L v8.

Yeah, V8 all the way...I was doing some research on these over the weekend and was surprised to see how expensive they can become when properly optioned.

When mentioning this idea to my wife, she said she doesn't see me as a Camaro guy...whatever the hell that means. So who knows if this will go anywhere.
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We are talking about some great cars here and my mouth is drooling. I drive a 328i ...2.5 years left till I get done with my loan...but I test drove the new Kia stinger not a bad car at all apart from the fact that it is a Kia.any thoughts?
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We are talking about some great cars here and my mouth is drooling. I drive a 328i ...2.5 years left till I get done with my loan...but I test drove the new Kia stinger not a bad car at all apart from the fact that it is a Kia.any thoughts?
Wow, there actually is a guy who wants to go from a BMW to a KIA. Worlds going to hell in a hand basket!
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New M3 with xdrive that's coming out and new X5 for my wife that's coming out...
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Only a handful of people will know what it is.... everyone else will look at it like it's a Kia...
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