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      01-21-2013, 03:46 PM   #45
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Hmmmmm, before buying that new car, lets wait to see if a newer engine comes out, even though the car will now be older and closer to LCI or evolution. Very sensible logic
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I wouldn’t expect the “new” motor to have a huge power bump, they don’t want to take away from the M3/4

I would expect them to release an engine with a modest power increase while maintaining or slightly improving MPG.

Whichever you get, N55 or new, will still be a great engine! It’s a BMW!!!

Also, keep in mind new motors are prone to issues (HPFP)

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      01-21-2013, 07:38 PM   #47
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Are you serious, the 330i is faster than the G37? I have the G37 right now which was not that much faster than my 306hp G35.

http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/on...i/viewall.html

Here it's running to 60 at 6 seconds. These guys have the G37 at 5 seconds. Not even comparable. It may have been more refined yes but faster, not in the real world. FWIW the quarter mile time is not far off from my X5 35i.

I understand why the OP would not want to be caught up in this situation. And he is right, people were pissed back then. The N55 is certainly not underpowered in today's standards
Car & Driver had the 2006 330i 0-60 at 5.6s, and the G at 5.2s (links below) - so not really that much of a difference.

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...330i-specs.pdf

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...edan-specs.pdf

With respect to people being pissed back then - well, I don't think so - just go check the E90 post site and see the link to 330i owners - in fact, as I mentioned, I was one of those and loved the car.

Don't get me wrong - I today also have a G37s, but just wanted to make sure some of the misconception about the 330i should be cleared up. Of course - with the 335, BMW buried its competition.

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Thinking abt the N55, it's only 3yrs old (debuted in the F07), so there's at least a few more yrs life in it yet.
U can always put a M-performance power kit later......
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Ever drive one in an E93? My old Honda Accord was faster around town.
No - didn't drive the E93. Are you referring to the 325i or the 330i? Both had the N52 though the 325 was detuned - so I can imagine a heavier car being slower.

No Accord could hang with a 330i - straight line or curves. I listed the C&D test in my other post - they tested it at 5.6s to 60 - and no Accord of the time was quicker than that.
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It depends on which state of tune.
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You right, these guys were so unlucky, rather than end up with the most powerful NA engine produced for the series they could have bought an '07 335i and experienced all those HPFP failures and recalls.
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No it wasn't the most powerful NA I6 is in an M3
I think he was referring to the standard 3 - not M cars.
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No - didn't drive the E93. Are you referring to the 325i or the 330i? Both had the N52 though the 325 was detuned - so I can imagine a heavier car being slower.

No Accord could hang with a 330i - straight line or curves. I listed the C&D test in my other post - they tested it at 5.6s to 60 - and no Accord of the time was quicker than that.
325i/328i. Sloooooow.
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Are you serious, the 330i is faster than the G37? I have the G37 right now which was not that much faster than my 306hp G35.

http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/on...i/viewall.html

Here it's running to 60 at 6 seconds. These guys have the G37 at 5 seconds. Not even comparable. It may have been more refined yes but faster, not in the real world. FWIW the quarter mile time is not far off from my X5 35i.

I understand why the OP would not want to be caught up in this situation. And he is right, people were pissed back then. The N55 is certainly not underpowered in today's standards
Car & Driver had the 2006 330i 0-60 at 5.6s, and the G at 5.2s (links below) - so not really that much of a difference.

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...330i-specs.pdf

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...edan-specs.pdf

With respect to people being pissed back then - well, I don't think so - just go check the E90 post site and see the link to 330i owners - in fact, as I mentioned, I was one of those and loved the car.

Don't get me wrong - I today also have a G37s, but just wanted to make sure some of the misconception about the 330i should be cleared up. Of course - with the 335, BMW buried its competition.
Cool stuff, looks like ultimately we are agreeing for the most part but we had to stretch the truth a little bit. Lol

I do recall many people getting pissed though. Like the OP, I would have been pissed too, but that's just me.
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325i/328i. Sloooooow.
We were talking about the 255 bhp 330i - not the 325/328.
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Cool stuff, looks like ultimately we are agreeing for the most part but we had to stretch the truth a little bit. Lol

I do recall many people getting pissed though. Like the OP, I would have been pissed too, but that's just me.
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No - didn't drive the E93. Are you referring to the 325i or the 330i? Both had the N52 though the 325 was detuned - so I can imagine a heavier car being slower.

No Accord could hang with a 330i - straight line or curves. I listed the C&D test in my other post - they tested it at 5.6s to 60 - and no Accord of the time was quicker than that.
325i/328i. Sloooooow.

Clearly spoken like someone who has never owned an IS250 AWD, now that car is25loooow
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Everything is old if now if your definition of old is that a newer version will be released in the future.

Buy the car for what it is now. Whatever comes out in the future doesn't change what is available now. If you love it, buy it. If not, then don't.
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I think he was referring to the standard 3 - not M cars.
Yeah the S54 is a beast of engineering. A class of its own. More than 100hp per liter.
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Because the "newest" BMW product is usually full of first-production bugs. I would actually rather have a one of two year old BMW technology, that has been ironed out and is not in the shop every other week.
Exactly this. Don't be the ginea pig. Take the new m5 engine and the oil pump recall. A saw quite a number of threads with new m5 owners getting stranded after a few hundred miles of taking delivery. The 01 m3 and rod bearing failures. Let them iron it put for a few years and then buy. Or you'll just be another data point.

As some have already said op, n55 has been proven to be reliable.
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No - didn't drive the E93. Are you referring to the 325i or the 330i? Both had the N52 though the 325 was detuned - so I can imagine a heavier car being slower.

No Accord could hang with a 330i - straight line or curves. I listed the C&D test in my other post - they tested it at 5.6s to 60 - and no Accord of the time was quicker than that.
325i/328i. Sloooooow.

Clearly spoken like someone who has never owned an IS250 AWD, now that car is25loooow
Hahahaha. Slower than an old 98 Taurus!
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