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      02-23-2017, 03:51 AM   #89
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Whoa....£88k car beats £41k car in a race shocker!!!!!
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3:00 Hahaha 335d xDrive slow as hell when they both floored it at 100 km/h. Imagine how much 35d will be devastated in a drag race.
And then the battery went flat
Wonder how far ahead the 335d would get whilst the Tesla was charging?
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Whoa....£88k car beats £41k car in a race shocker!!!!!
An Electric Barge with NO charging stations to be seen, long journeys are out for that thing.
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Whoa....£88k car beats £41k car in a race shocker!!!!!
Only because there were no corners
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Interesting concept but I wonder how far a 320d would get whilst the 335d was filling up with diesel.
OMG!!! Not the old 6-pot vs 4-pot debate again!!



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OMG!!! Not the old 6-pot vs 4-pot debate again!!



Wrong 6 Pot vs 13AMP.
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The fact you have too many coppers around your area is a most unfortunate reason to not want to own an M car.

Have no problem in north Wilts, hardly see any coppers and they scrapped the Wiltshire Safety Camera partnership as well as removed fixed speed cameras a few years back.



Not that I ever speed, of course.
North Wiltshire... that's what my missus tells me to say instead of Swindon.

I think I've only ever seen traffic police upwards of j16 but never below j15 on the m4.
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North Wiltshire... that's what my missus tells me to say instead of Swindon.

I think I've only ever seen traffic police upwards of j16 but never below j15 on the m4.
But you still say North Wilts if you dont actually live in Swindon.
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Fairer race would be 340i and Tesla........result would be the same, but at least they'd both have to stop for "fuel" at about the same time!
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He clearly forgot about burning £65 a week to move this twin turbo snail which also needs regular service, tax, congestion fee.

Let alone the fact that what emission, co2 and other nasty gases it produces whilst dissipating earth's natural juices.
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...and imagine how that race would go a couple of hundred (dozen?) kms down the autobahn after a fast cruise to that point. Millenium Falcon hyperdrive failure noise anyone?

I like Teslas btw, but I think it's utterly pointless and fatuous comparing it on flat out acceleration against a 335d. If I wanted a fast and fun car, it would be the 335d not the Tesla. On other points, the Tesla might win.
Almost every country on earth has speed limits, but i guess the majority of population would only care about how fast you can get to 60 or 70 thing and in this case Teala is unbeatable and indisputable king of the road. Only a handful of super/hypercars cost a lot more can beat it's performance in a drag race or at traffic light. You will see how much of a fun car Tesla is when you see the faces and reactions of people experiencing it's acceleration.
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And then the battery went flat
Wonder how far ahead the 335d would get whilst the Tesla was charging?
I don't know how strong your body resistance is, but most normal people including myself have to take a 15 to 20 mins short break after driving for a few hours. I drove all the way from here to an island in Croatia last summer, that's around 1300 miles, so i know how many times i had to stop and rest. You can charge it up for free at superchargers when you're having a cup of tea or taking a sh!t.
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Only a handful of super/hypercars cost a lot more can beat it's performance in a drag race or at traffic light. You will see how much of a fun car Tesla is when you see the faces and reactions of people experiencing it's acceleration.
Teslas aren't that quick..

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I don't know how strong your body resistance is, but most normal people including myself have to take a 15 to 20 mins short break after driving for a few hours. I drove all the way from here to an island in Croatia last summer, that's around 1300 miles, so i know how many times i had to stop and rest. You can charge it up for free at superchargers when you're having a cup of tea or taking a sh!t.

I've also driven to Croatia numerous times (wife is a Croat). I always filled up at at Folkestone and then did my one and only European fuel stop in Austria.

I suspect the 440i would need a few more stops that the 3.0TDI A7 I used last time.

It's a great road trip and some of the mountain roads are sublime.
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And then the battery went flat
Wonder how far ahead the 335d would get whilst the Tesla was charging?
I don't know how strong your body resistance is, but most normal people including myself have to take a 15 to 20 mins short break after driving for a few hours. I drove all the way from here to an island in Croatia last summer, that's around 1300 miles, so i know how many times i had to stop and rest. You can charge it up for free at superchargers when you're having a cup of tea or taking a sh!t.
I'm glad you seem to think you have your own personal super charger system everywhere you go . Chances are you have to wait for some other guy to finish having a shit....as you put it, before you get your go.

And that 1300 mile trip you talk of? That is probably about 7-8 super charger visits. Glad I don't drive with you because It'd drive me mental having to stop that often.
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I read recently that with a Tesla, the real range of you're on a steady motorway cruise at around 90mph is 150 miles. Even if it's 200 it's still not enough for me to consider it for European road trips.

Too many times have I needed to put the foot down and crack on in order to make a ferry!
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I read recently that with a Tesla, the real range of you're on a steady motorway cruise at around 90mph is 150 miles. Even if it's 200 it's still not enough for me to consider it for European road trips.

Too many times have I needed to put the foot down and crack on in order to make a ferry!
That's pretty hopeless if true. Even if 200 miles, the real range becomes closer to 150 as you have to stop where the service stations are, not where the range becomes zero.

To be honest, that kind of range would be a complete pain even on a short-ish 100 miles there and back in a day trip. Ensure you are fully charged when leaving, charge again at destination, then have a car sat in the drive with less than 100 miles range...so, charge again.

Whereas my 440i will have 200 miles range remaining without having the pain of the recharge, an x35d will probably be over 250 and a real miser like a 320d will have 3/4 of a tank of fuel left.
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The way I use the 330e, is usually 100-200 miles per day, and so a Tesla would be superb in this regard.

But overall I agree, it's just not quite yet where I need it to be to go completely electric.

But I won't be changing cars for another couple of years at least so hopefully the battery tech will have moved forward that bit further.
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You can charge it up for free at superchargers when you're having a cup of tea or taking a sh!t.
You've missed that boat mate, unless your order is already in then your tea and ablutions are going to be taken whilst the meter runs up a charge.

The Supercharger network was an essential sale enabler initially and also a clever marketing trick that benefitted early adopters and promotes the brand, but from this point on it has a sharply decreasing benefit from what I can see.

What it will also ultimately achieve is an ongoing income stream for Tesla as they profit from the energy sales as well as the car sales in a way that no other manufacturer has done (ever bought from a BMW-branded fuel station?).

He's a clever man that Mr Musk and I applaud his business vision in exploiting the (in hindsight, glaring) gap that the existing OEMs left - but friend of the consumer and planet saving altruist?....ermmm, no.
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