ACS vs Bilstein

takumichinoku · 07-05-2015, 08:41 AM

Hi folks, had the 435i just over 3 weeks now and the body roll needs sorting out! (Plus the massive wheel gap) . Have been browsing around and noticed most people have been using the ACS springs and was set on getting them however it seems I can get a decent price on a set of Bilsteins B14 coilovers from Germany.

Obviously don't want to spend that extra on something that isn't going to be worth it.

Thoughts on what to purchase?

antjos1 · 07-05-2015, 08:49 AM

Hi all
Why arnt people happy with what they have purchased instead of wanting extra added to their new car.BMW cars are not cheap so paying out extra is a no no for me.

Tengocity · 07-05-2015, 09:10 AM

ACS springs will improve it a bit, then upgraded anti-roll bars a bit more.

Going bilstein will be as other step ahead again, but you lose adaptive damping on the move (if you specced them?), but can adapt to ones own preferences when parked up. If you're likely to take it on track regularly then that would be a great option.

Current euro exchange rates make them quite cheap at the moment.

Tengocity · 07-05-2015, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by antjos1

Hi all
Why arnt people happy with what they have purchased instead of wanting extra added to their new car.BMW cars are not cheap so paying out extra is a no no for me.

Because you can always improve things. It's a free country so everyone is free to make one's own decisions on what to do with ones own money and car.

takumichinoku · 07-05-2015, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by antjos1

Hi all
Why arnt people happy with what they have purchased instead of wanting extra added to their new car.BMW cars are not cheap so paying out extra is a no no for me.

I actually enjoy modding up my car. It's not necessarily because I want it to be the best handling car in world...9/10 people would probably be happy with how it comes but I'm just not

...

But then again I couldn't afford a 911 which I would of left untouched

takumichinoku · 07-05-2015, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

ACS springs will improve it a bit, then upgraded anti-roll bars a bit more.

Going bilstein will be as other step ahead again, but you lose adaptive damping on the move (if you specced them?), but can adapt to ones own preferences when parked up. If you're likely to take it on track regularly then that would be a great option.

Current euro exchange rates make them quite cheap at the moment.

I don't have adaptive.

Nor will I be tracking it. I just don't like that roll when I'm pushing it. It's quite abit of body roll.

And yes, the exchange rates are what's making me think about the coil overs! It's almost a 'value' buy. Know I don't necessarily need it but if it's just abit more than the springs is it worth purchasing the bilsteins.

Tengocity · 07-05-2015, 09:20 AM

If I had a car without adaptive already then I'd go for a set of Bilsteins.

antjos1 · 07-05-2015, 09:37 AM

I'm not saying its ain't a free world
If I was purchasing a new car I would have test drive and if the body roll or anything else I didn't like I would not buy it.

takumichinoku · 07-05-2015, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by antjos1

I'm not saying its ain't a free world
If I was purchasing a new car I would have test drive and if the body roll or anything else I didn't like I would not buy it.

You forgot to add if it sits too high also!

Just like I have free choice you get free speech.

understand your reasoning though whether I agree or not.

Does this apply to my house also? Guess I can't do it up

takumichinoku · 07-05-2015, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

If I had a car without adaptive already then I'd go for a set of Bilsteins.

Ok thanks bud!

antjos1 · 07-05-2015, 10:03 AM

If it was a new house and you paid a lot o money for it I would expect all I had to do would be to put my furniture in the property😊

teaston · 07-05-2015, 11:30 AM

I have same set up as you (sdrive, M Sport, non adaptive, 3l engine) and for me the ACS springs have sorted the body roll & ride height perfectly!

Now maybe if you want the all out best handling then Bilstein are the way to go but for me I didn't want to risk losing any ride comfort, and my car behaves how i want it to with just the springs anyway.

Also the B14's minimum ride height drop is 30mm which is too much for road use imo! You'd need the B16 Komfort kit which can be set higher than that.

Steven1077 · 07-06-2015, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by takumichinoku

Hi folks, had the 435i just over 3 weeks now and the body roll needs sorting out! (Plus the massive wheel gap) . Have been browsing around and noticed most people have been using the ACS springs and was set on getting them however it seems I can get a decent price on a set of Bilsteins B14 coilovers from Germany.

Obviously don't want to spend that extra on something that isn't going to be worth it.

Thoughts on what to purchase?

What massive gap? I can see that on a 435d but the 435i is hardly massive

takumichinoku · 07-06-2015, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven1077

What massive gap? I can see that on a 435d but the 435i is hardly massive

It was a slight exaggeration! And no way near like a 435d lol. Just like the car to sit nice and low with minimal gap.

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Tengocity General 8566 Rep 19,982 Posts Drives: 911, Cayenne Turbo, Disco 4 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Crieff, Perthshire, Scotland iTrader: (0)	ACS springs will improve it a bit, then upgraded anti-roll bars a bit more. Going bilstein will be as other step ahead again, but you lose adaptive damping on the move (if you specced them?), but can adapt to ones own preferences when parked up. If you're likely to take it on track regularly then that would be a great option. Current euro exchange rates make them quite cheap at the moment. __________________ Current: Porsche 911 991 C4S, Porsche Cayenne Turbo, Land Rover Discovery 4. Gone...G01 X3 M40i, Cayman S 987, F31 340i, Cayman GT4, F82 M4 CP, Lotus Exige V6, G20 330e, F30 330e, Boxster S 987, F31 335d, Mini Cooper SD, E89 Z4, E90 330d 320d, E60 520d, E46 330d 320d, MX5s, E30 325i
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teaston Banned 10995 Rep 32,881 Posts Drives: X3 M40d Join Date: May 2012 Location: The High Seas iTrader: (1)	I have same set up as you (sdrive, M Sport, non adaptive, 3l engine) and for me the ACS springs have sorted the body roll & ride height perfectly! Now maybe if you want the all out best handling then Bilstein are the way to go but for me I didn't want to risk losing any ride comfort, and my car behaves how i want it to with just the springs anyway. Also the B14's minimum ride height drop is 30mm which is too much for road use imo! You'd need the B16 Komfort kit which can be set higher than that.
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