[SamS]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

I find it's the true of the 335 owners too lol. Very quick to chime in and try to justify their purchases and the cars being so much better.

What will the attitude of N20 328i owners be, when that car is eventually available with the B38 3cyl?

[ft1338]

Originally Posted by GB72

Seeing a lot of 328 owners getting a little...er....competitive recently on the forum, wouldn't be a case of small engine syndrome would it???

Haha I've noticed that too.... Defensive was the word I would have used

[ft1338]

Originally Posted by marseille82

Hey man, good meeting you at Oneeighty in BK. Let me chim in here. I own a 335i, and also a N54 engine E60. Well, a friend of mine let me drive his 328i with DHP, and I find it to handle much better than my car. The power might not be the same, but its more than you'll ever need in our civilian streets. 328 is the better daily driver, and might be the better track car with the right tune.
Just my 2cents.

The question is... Do you have DHP on your 335?

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by SamS

What will the attitude of N20 328i owners be, when that car is eventually available with the B38 3cyl?

Don't care, just as I don't care about the 320.

Originally Posted by ft1338

Haha I've noticed that too.... Defensive was the word I would have used

Gee wonder why...

Every 328 thread with an aftermarket exhaust has at least one 335 owner chiming in how it's pointless and we all should have bought 335s instead. Pretty obnoxious. It would be ridiculous if 328 owners posted in 335 threads about improving handling that those owners should have bought 328s for the improved handling of 100+lbs off the nose.

[marseille82]

Originally Posted by ft1338

The question is... Do you have DHP on your 335?

Have DHP on 19'' staggered (ditched the runflats btw).

[SamS]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

Don't care, just as I don't care about the 320.

So you'll go on record as saying you won't get annoyed at eventual B38 owners when they (rightfully?) boast that their car is lighter than an N20-car, gets better mpg, handles better, etc?

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by SamS

So you'll go on record as saying you won't get annoyed at eventual B38 owners when they (rightfully?) boast that their car is lighter than an N20-car, gets better mpg, handles better, etc?

Yep, as long as it's true.

That's the key, as long as it's true I am fine with anything being said about any car. I just take offense to gloating about something that is not factual.

[GB72]

Originally Posted by ft1338

Haha I've noticed that too.... Defensive was the word I would have used

Haha we all know in there hearts they know there's no replacement for displacement and they kick themselves for not getting the 335

[jsedlak]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

The 335 is faster and not by a small margin. But what is cool is previously, with the E90 328, it would be a pounding.

The BMS stage 1 N20 tune puts the 328 right back with the 335, even giving it a slight edge. Problem is, the same tune for the 335 is netting some damn good results too.

this.

The N20 is a great motor!

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by GB72

Haha we all know in there hearts they know there's no replacement for displacement and they kick themselves for not getting the 335

I had a Corvette Z51 give me that line before I blew his doors off in my E36/7 with half the displacement.

[GB72]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

I had a Corvette Z51 give me that line before I blew his doors off in my E36/7 with half the displacement.

And he was trying...

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by GB72

And he was trying...

Yeah, we met up afterwards. Keep in mind my car was nearly 500hp at the crank, now with the cams and higher boost closer to 600hp. So yeah...

[GB72]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

Yeah, we met up afterwards. Keep in mind my car was nearly 500hp at the crank, now with the cams and higher boost closer to 600hp. So yeah...

Ok but full on mods to 328 and full out mods to 335 there'll be only one winner

[GB72]

You can almost taste the animosity the 328 owners have for the 335 owners!

[GB72]

How is it they can only get 400 bhp out of a 6.0 v8! Ha I bet with a bit of a tune I'd give the yank tank a run for the money!

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by GB72

Ok but full on mods to 328 and full out mods to 335 there'll be only one winner

True...but read my first reply in this thread. So why repeat what I said back to me.

Originally Posted by GB72

You can almost taste the animosity the 328 owners have for the 335 owners!

If you say so. 328 guys have been taking shit from 335 guys for awhile lol.

[GB72]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

True...but read my first reply in this thread. So why repeat what I said back to me.

If you say so. 328 guys have been taking shit from 335 guys for awhile lol.

[tdizzle]

It is always a bit silly that we feel the need to virtual or otherwise 'race compare' the 328 to the 335.

Mod for mod the 335 will always be faster in a straight line, end of discussion.

In stock form, the 328 has a slight edge in handling. Duh, 100lb on the nose of the car will do that for you. The 335's power advantage makes up for alot of that in stock form. Now start modding it, the power to weight advantage will start to swing in the 335's advantage and that 100lbs will become less meaningful with higher hp (the 335 will be granted more to play with as you mod) making up for the difference.

Go look at the lightning lap, a feather light car with 250 hp and superb handling still wont match a 600hp beast with 'good' handling.

Both are great cars in their own right and have wonderful engines. One just happens to be bigger than the other. I think the 328 owners like to harp on the better handling (it may be better, but come on, how much?) and the 335 owners like to testify how much more powerful the engine is, yes it is, but it's not like we're talking about double the hp or anything. Both arguments are valid, but are also marginal.

I'm biased to the 335 as I have one (obviously) and think that the added power of the 335 is more noticeable than the handling advantage of the 328 in the majority of cases where you're pushing the car.

/flame suit on

[300hp]

My G37 is faster than the 328i

[Jamesons Viggen]

No flame suit as I mostly agree.

But I dont see how adding power to the 335 bridges the handlng gap. Power does not improve handling.

To me the handling advantage is on one side the power on the other. Problem is the power is easier to exploit and notice compared to the handlng where the track highlights.

Originally Posted by tdizzle

It is always a bit silly that we feel the need to virtual or otherwise 'race compare' the 328 to the 335.

Mod for mod the 335 will always be faster in a straight line, end of discussion.

In stock form, the 328 has a slight edge in handling. Duh, 100lb on the nose of the car will do that for you. The 335's power advantage makes up for alot of that in stock form. Now start modding it, the power to weight advantage will start to swing in the 335's advantage and that 100lbs will become less meaningful with higher hp (the 335 will be granted more to play with as you mod) making up for the difference.

Go look at the lightning lap, a feather light car with 250 hp and superb handling still wont match a 600hp beast with 'good' handling.

Both are great cars in their own right and have wonderful engines. One just happens to be bigger than the other. I think the 328 owners like to harp on the better handling (it may be better, but come on, how much?) and the 335 owners like to testify how much more powerful the engine is, yes it is, but it's not like we're talking about double the hp or anything. Both arguments are valid, but are also marginal.

I'm biased to the 335 as I have one (obviously) and think that the added power of the 335 is more noticeable than the handling advantage of the 328 in the majority of cases where you're pushing the car.

/flame suit on

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by 300hp

My G37 is faster than the 328i

Not by much at all. Its a much smaller gap than 335vs328

[BMWinGE]

Originally Posted by GB72

Seeing a lot of 328 owners getting a little...er....competitive recently on the forum, wouldn't be a case of small engine syndrome would it???

Good job, this is the post where this thread went south. lol