01-15-2012, 06:13 PM | #177 |
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These new lines are horrible. I tried to configure something I would want, and in the end it switched from one line to another and undid my previous choices six times before I gave up. I feel heartbroken.
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01-15-2012, 06:14 PM | #178 | |
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I'm convinced these lines were put into practice solely for the purpose of attracting people who like the cachet of "SPORT," "MODERN," and "LUXURY." It just sounds kind of nice to categorize the niceties of your car that way, but couldn't they just offer the little fender sticker separately? |
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01-15-2012, 06:54 PM | #179 |
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I guess it remains to be seen if saddle or oyster interior can be optioned on the MSport? Seems like they're off limits for the sport pack, and you can't get Sport+ if you go with the base model.
To echo everyone else....wth?!? |
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01-15-2012, 09:28 PM | #180 |
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+1... it's a shame that the wavy wood is not available with the Sport... ridiculous even... but perhaps it's just us two
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01-15-2012, 09:58 PM | #181 |
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I can only hope that the packaging of the F42 will be more open and flexible than the F30... oh please let it be so... If I am told I have to buy "Premium" with leather to get Comfort access I may not upgrade my E92..
...time will tell. If I spend $50+K on a car... I want some flexibility
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01-15-2012, 10:18 PM | #182 |
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Ugh... It seems that the ratio of bitching and moaning to complements is 2:1 or 3:1. Does anyone, and I'm really asking, have the itemized sales breakdown of BMW 3-series and how many people bought what option. What were the most popular combinations? Who chose what? How much was the average salary of the majority of buyers? Etc. Etc. Etc.
Ten bucks that these plans didn't just get crapped out during a meeting. I'm willing to bet that these options are a 'hedging of bets' on BMW's part. They love a LARGE profit margin and who doesn't? I'm betting that the people who really matter here (the majority) enjoy what BMW is cooking. |
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01-15-2012, 11:01 PM | #183 | |
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I believe all these lines are made for a reason, also made to simplify the buying process. "Oh you want luxury? Check out our 3 series Luxury line." Or replace luxury with sport or basic or modern. I love what they did with the new 3 series. |
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01-16-2012, 12:43 AM | #184 |
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well, if I could, I would get only
328i red + sportline with oyster interior and dark wood trim with xenons. unfortunately, you can't pick oyster with sportline, or wood trims. and for xenons you need the premium package. so a car that would cost ~38000 with only those options now costs a lot more and is impossible to make : <
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01-16-2012, 11:14 AM | #186 |
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Thanks for posting, Jason, that is a very nice quick reference guide, especially with the addtion of the base model choices (which are quite limited as we know). One possible small improvement would be to note that the base model interior materials are model specific. I.e. 328i gets the silver, 335i gets the wood, and there is no option to choose the other. Same with the 19" wheel - 335i only.
One question: is it actually possible to get the 19" wheels on a base 335i? As far as I can tell, the order guide suggests that those wheels require you to select from one of the three lines. |
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01-16-2012, 01:31 PM | #187 |
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Kudos to building this information thread, ..in all honesty however you slice it you will get a great car and there will be more uniqueness floating around. Looking forward to the F42 release, so curious how the F30 will morph into a coupe
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01-16-2012, 05:51 PM | #188 |
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Wow, they have certainly sparked some debate! For me the biggest question is whether you can add m sport to any line. If I can take luxury with m sport; great! Like others, I find the interior on the sports line a bit cheesy and the interior on modern, well, just a bit "today"...
Apologies in advance if my question is answered elsewhere in this thread... |
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01-16-2012, 06:00 PM | #189 |
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Tell me how in the hell BMW saves money by forcing people to pick only certain combinations? The parts are there, just mix and match according to the build configuration.
I think BMW is trying to save resale value. Letting a customer pick awful color schemes, that the dealership has to take back after a lease and trying to sell must have gotten really annoying. These "lines" are a complete stab in the back to true BMW fans. You can have a "simplified" build process without restricting people who know what they want. This is a step back from being a true luxury car maker in my opinion. Last edited by wannabe; 01-16-2012 at 06:07 PM.. |
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01-16-2012, 07:06 PM | #190 |
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BMW messed up, audi's def win in the looks category now. New 3's are so ugly and soft looking, happy as hell I got mine when I did.
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01-16-2012, 07:21 PM | #191 |
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You think the f30 looks softer than the B8? lol, i can understand if you said uglier, but softer? lol...
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Perhaps he didn't mean soft because if the B8 and upcoming LCI (I know that's a Bimmer term) where any softer, they'd melt. And that is said with great pain. As a VW/Audi enthusiast I have become consistently underwhelemed and bored with the looks my favorite auto group keeps churning out. Their looks are as risky as sunblock at the beach. Save for an array of sexy, innovative (and now viciously copied) LED daytime running lights, I'm uninspired and patiently waiting. I should note that I like sports sedans, so for me, the F30 is the only viable option if Audi doesn't snap back. |
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Otherwise, why do you think most non-premium companies severely limit the customizability? It's surely not just to screw with their customers. Customization = increased production cost. I would also like to remind you that Scott (I think it was him) said the F30 will be the most profitable 3 series yet. I'm sure this line business is a part of that improvement. |
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01-17-2012, 02:54 PM | #194 | |
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So, applying the same logic, why would they limit options in the "lines" that could possibly result in lost sales? If I want a "luxury" line car, but want a "modern" key fob. How does it save BMW money to not allow me to do this? In other words, the restrictions seem to be centered around the designers' tastes. The designers say "Sporty" spice would only want their BMWs to looks this way. "Posh" spice would only like it to look this way. "Crazy" spice would like an oyster interior. Why allow more options and at the same time only allow certain combinations of those options? I'm not sure cost and build simplicity is the only answer. The interior and color choices are already very limited from Acura, Lexus, and Infiniti. This is what sets BMW apart from those brands. An almost fully customizable car. Why walk away from that awesome distinction? |
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I also liked that BMW allowed you more flexibility compared to the Japanese brands. I would've liked BMW to stay that way as well, by cutting corners somewhere else. But just reading this forum, it's clear the buyers demand every single gadgets and luxury features available in other cars. It would be very costly for BMW to offer them all, just like everyone else, and then also offer the virtually unlimited flexibility. So I think the fact that they offer more options than ever is directly linked to the fact that now you have a lot more restrictions on the combinations. |
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We'll see if this is now the BMW way or some 3-series exec's epic fail. It just irks me that the only way I can get sport seats is to choose black, red, or grey leather. |
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