[mntbiker]

Originally Posted by jerflash

i think when you do a PCD you can get more off the car then normal. If i were to take a PCD i could have gotten the same above invoice as mntbiker but i also dont live in raleigh...lucky bastard!! Im up here in NYC so i paid a little more over invoice for mine but did not have to setup a trip to NC...could not get the time off work anyway.

BTW mntbiker i think we are going into production at the same time! Interesting package you got there...a real stripper car msport but with navi. Why did you opt not to get the blue msport brakes for 650...would have been great on that car

Mine was $52,375 msrp for my msport 428i cause i got some goodies and leather. Sale price of $50250

your lease is also better then mine because you got it for less money but your residual is based on the msrp

oh and i added the msport brakes on mine at the last minute before the order went through lol

PCD itself doesn't allow you to get a better deal, but it gives you the option to work with any dealer in the country... which definitely works to your advantage!

I was shooting for a 50k budget on my next lease and was originally planning to go with the F30... but once I saw the 435i I decided to go for it. So, I really wanted the M Sport Brakes but was already blowing my budget so decided I could live without them. They look really sweet though!

[JCris09]

435i

EB II, Black leather with blue finisher
M Sport
Premium Pack
Cold Weather
Driver Assistance
Navigation
M Sport Brakes

$ 560 12k/36 mo Good deal?

[mntbiker]

Originally Posted by JCris09

435i

EB II, Black leather with blue finisher
M Sport
Premium Pack
Cold Weather
Driver Assistance
Navigation
M Sport Brakes

$ 560 12k/36 mo Good deal?

How much $$ due at signing?

[JCris09]

$3.5k

[mntbiker]

Originally Posted by JCris09

$3.5k

Well, you didn't post a lot of the numbers needed in order to know if it's actually a good deal... but basing it off of my numbers, it seems like it IS actually a pretty good deal. We have the same monthly payments (does your payment include tax?), but your MSRP is ~ $3500 more than mine. You are paying $3300 more at signing than I am.. but I'm also using multiple security deposits to keep my payment low.

So, long story short, my rough estimate is that this is a good deal!

[poosamjam]

Originally Posted by JCris09

435i

EB II, Black leather with blue finisher
M Sport
Premium Pack
Cold Weather
Driver Assistance
Navigation
M Sport Brakes

$ 560 12k/36 mo Good deal?

Which dealership? I'm planning on ordering a 435i with the same specs minus cold weather soon.

[riimiX]

was going to place an order but still unsure if i should wait a bit more to actually test drive the car or wait another 2 years till lease deals seem a bit better?


2014 428i xDrive
sport line

black sapphire metallic
coral red leather interior
driver assistance pkg
nav system (not the pkg)
anti-theft alarm

msrp $51025

dealer took $1000 off msrp
$1000 ultimate driving event
$500 (? not sure) bmw loyalty

so lets say thats $2500 off..

selling price: $48525

10k/yr over 36 months
$598.68 (includes 8.625% nys sales tax)
total due @ delivery: $743.28 (first month payment & something else) + dmv fees




then there was my "bare minimum" version which was basically the standard line + the options listed above (minus leather)

jet black
black sensatec
dark burl walnut trim
driver assistance pkg
nav system
anti-theft alarm

msrp $46925

dealer took $1000 off msrp
$1000 ultimate driving event
$500 (? not sure) bmw loyalty

so lets say thats $2500 off..

selling price: $44425

10k/yr over 36 months
$543.21 (includes 8.625% nys sales tax)
total due @ delivery: $687.81 (first month payment & something else) + dmv fees


not sure what to do and/or if this is a good deal.

[benzene 2014]

ordered 428xi couple of weeks ago. the vehicle is in production but i'm having second thoughts... only got $1000 off MSRP and the dealer is low balling me on my trade-in by another 1-2 grand.

what kind of deals are you guys getting on the 4 pre-orders?

[jerflash]

I got over 2000 off msrp before using the loyalty and the ultimate drive. Did you leave a large deposite? Did you get an oddball setup?

[boulderado]

Originally Posted by benzene 2014

ordered 428xi couple of weeks ago. the vehicle is in production but i'm having second thoughts... only got $1000 off MSRP and the dealer is low balling me on my trade-in by another 1-2 grand.

what kind of deals are you guys getting on the 4 pre-orders?

1000 off MSRP for a brand new model isn't too bad. I got $1800 off MSRP and then got another $1000 off from the Ultimate Driving Event.

As for the trade-in, go for a private party sale and you would get a much better value for your car.

[benzene 2014]

Originally Posted by jerflash

I got over 2000 off msrp before using the loyalty and the ultimate drive. Did you leave a large deposite? Did you get an oddball setup?

$2000 refundable deposit. MF .00127 62%RV 36 months/12k miles. seems like they don't care whether this deal goes through or not or they're betting that I would follow through with this deal with the low ball trade-in since they already wasted 6 weeks of my time with the order

[benzene 2014]

Originally Posted by boulderado

1000 off MSRP for a brand new model isn't too bad. I got $1800 off MSRP and then got another $1000 off from the Ultimate Driving Event.

As for the trade-in, go for a private party sale and you would get a much better value for your car.

the question is whether the dealer can sell the car for more than $1000 off MSRP if I'm to walk away from the deal. from the replies it seems like ppl are not paying the full MSRP and most of you guys are getting at least $2k off if not more

[drkeng]

Originally Posted by boulderado

Heard the same thing. My CA even said that they wouldn't be able to sell the car to me if it were to arrive prior to 10/5. The car just would have to wait at the dealer until 10/5.

I had one of the earliest production 335 convertibles back in '07 and they held the car at the VPC for about 3 weeks before delivering it to the dealer.

[jerflash]

Originally Posted by benzene 2014

$2000 refundable deposit. MF .00127 62%RV 36 months/12k miles. seems like they don't care whether this deal goes through or not or they're betting that I would follow through with this deal with the low ball trade-in since they already wasted 6 weeks of my time with the order

You got the best MF but you did put quite a bit down for a deposit. I was asking if your build was an oddball build because it would make it more difficult to sell to someone else if it was. You could use that but if not then they pretty much have you by the balls already. You go to another dealer and make a new deal, then cancel that build

[boulderado]

Originally Posted by benzene 2014

the question is whether the dealer can sell the car for more than $1000 off MSRP if I'm to walk away from the deal. from the replies it seems like ppl are not paying the full MSRP and most of you guys are getting at least $2k off if not more

Well, usually the MSRP has about 7% price premium added to the invoice and even at invoice price the dealer still makes money. So yes, the dealer can easily give you more than $1000 off MSRP. However, if you walk away and order a new car from another dealer your wait would be longer. So I guess it depends how quickly do you want to get your new car...

[benzene 2014]

Originally Posted by jerflash

You got the best MF but you did put quite a bit down for a deposit. I was asking if your build was an oddball build because it would make it more difficult to sell to someone else if it was. You could use that but if not then they pretty much have you by the balls already. You go to another dealer and make a new deal, then cancel that build

no oddball setup unfortunately but fully loaded. might not be a hard sell for them if someone is willing to pay close to 60k for a 428xi

[pbjr]

Hi All,

I live on the east coast NY/NJ area and have one on order. Currently 112 status.

435i (I could get by with a 428, but we only live once. MPG at the end of the year is not that much more)
M-Sport ( + looks, seats, steering wheel, and suspension)
18" 441 Wheels & Performance Tires (have a B5 S4 for winter days)
Black Metallic ( - wish I could get Jet Black and save $550)
Black Leather
6sp Manual (MT for life!)
Cold Weather (just needed Heated Seats, but for $200 more I figured it was worth the whole package)
Tech Package (not necessary, but the inner tech geek in me wanted it!)
Lighting Package
Power Rear Shade (car will be outside most the time and again just peanuts on how much this car costs)
HK Radio (I like to listen to good audio and this is the cheaper route vs. an aftermarket upgrade)
Premium Package (I needed Leather! Don't do Leatherette in warm climates!)
Dynamic Handling (Needed Comfort mode for my passengers and since I can't test drive the car...I didn't want to take any chances skipping it)

Things I passed on...
19" Wheels (bad roads where I live and increases chance of wheel damage, ride quality?, less MPG?, more expansive to replace?)

Thanks to all the posters here. It was a big help for me when placing the order.

[Deleted853]

I ordered an 435i, I found out Tuesday it was already in production. My ED date is Oct 7, 2013 at 9:20 am. I ordered it thru Greg Poland at Pacific BMW in Glendale CA. I was able to add the pickup onto an already paid for trip to Europe.

My itinerary:
Sept 20-Sept 28 depart LAX to Rome via Berlin. My wife and I, my brother and his wife renting an apartment up the street from the coliseum.

Sept 28 - Oct 5 Paris us four will meet my parents at their timeshare outside Paris.

Oct 5 - Oct 8 My wife and I head to Munich while the rest head back to the states. Oct 5 & 6 last weekend of Oktoberfest in Munich. 7th am do ED. In the afternoon we will drive to Neushwanstein Castle. Drive around some, return to Munich. 8th drop car off (short first run with her).

Oct 8 & 9 fly to Berlin. Visit Pergamon Museum. Then morning of 9th Berlin to LAX.

My build

435i ED base $42,830
Estoril blue $550
Premium Package $2200
(Coral red interior)
M Sport $3100
19" wheels $900
Harmon Kardon $875
Delivery $925
Total ED $51,380

Production is expected to be finished sept 7, 2013. Likely paying cash, but am considering a 36 month pre-paid lease in case new model has teething issues I can turn it in at lease end. Otherwise, will buy it off lease at end. Seems like a 2k over 3 year insurance policy. Plus, it allows me room to do another ED on another model in 3 years. Although, I am quite in love with this car at the moment.

[mntbiker]

Originally Posted by Mwm1166

I ordered an 435i, I found out Tuesday it was already in production. My ED date is Oct 7, 2013 at 9:20 am. I ordered it thru Greg Poland at Pacific BMW in Glendale CA. I was able to add the pickup onto an already paid for trip to Europe.

My itinerary:
Sept 20-Sept 28 depart LAX to Rome via Berlin. My wife and I, my brother and his wife renting an apartment up the street from the coliseum.

Sept 28 - Oct 5 Paris us four will meet my parents at their timeshare outside Paris.

Oct 5 - Oct 8 My wife and I head to Munich while the rest head back to the states. Oct 5 & 6 last weekend of Oktoberfest in Munich. 7th am do ED. In the afternoon we will drive to Neushwanstein Castle. Drive around some, return to Munich. 8th drop car off (short first run with her).

Oct 8 & 9 fly to Berlin. Visit Pergamon Museum. Then morning of 9th Berlin to LAX.

My build

435i ED base $42,830
Estoril blue $550
Premium Package $2200
(Coral red interior)
M Sport $3100
19" wheels $900
Harmon Kardon $875
Delivery $925
Total ED $51,380

Production is expected to be finished sept 7, 2013. Likely paying cash, but am considering a 36 month pre-paid lease in case new model has teething issues I can turn it in at lease end. Otherwise, will buy it off lease at end. Seems like a 2k over 3 year insurance policy. Plus, it allows me room to do another ED on another model in 3 years. Although, I am quite in love with this car at the moment.

Superman combo!! That's awesome you are able to coordinate it with your existing trip. My 435i also finishes production on Sept 7.

[jerflash]

Ya same here sept 7th looks like alot of the order from people here are finishing then!

[hotdawg]

geez so cheap in the USA

[macagain]

Back to BMW after 15 years, successfully bypassing the chris bangle era!

435i x-drive M Sport
Estoril Blue over black dakota, hex al, black trim
18" 441M w/ mixed perf tires (that pulled along increased speed limit)
Cold Weather
Premium
Technology
Harman Kardon

Very excited to be back to BMW... I loved my E38 740i, and wish I never got rid of my 850Ci! Interestingly, 20 years later, I can get almost the same power with 1/2 the cylinders... 300 vs 295 bhp, and 295 vs 332 lb-ft.

Production is supposed to be week 39.