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      11-05-2011, 11:03 AM   #1
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Red Turn Signal for USA?

I hated the red turn signals in the E90 and I quickly replaced them with the blackline rear lights. The red turn signals are just so ghetto.

Any words on whether they will bring back red turn signal again in F30? Why does BMW think it's such a great idea to have red turn signals.
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      11-05-2011, 12:24 PM   #2
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it's a US federal regulation.

here it is:

Sec. 547.324. TURN SIGNAL LAMPS REQUIRED. (a) Except as provided by Subsection (b), a motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, or pole trailer shall be equipped with electric turn signal lamps that indicate the operator's intent to turn by displaying flashing lights to the front and rear of a vehicle or combination of vehicles and on that side of the vehicle or combination toward which the turn is to be made.
(b) Subsection (a) does not apply to a passenger car or truck less than 80 inches wide manufactured or assembled before the model year 1960.
(c) Turn signal lamps:
(1) shall be mounted at the same level and spaced as widely apart as practicable on the front and on the rear of the vehicle; and
(2) may be included as a part of another lamp on the vehicle.
(d) A turn signal lamp shall emit:
(1) a white or amber light, or a color between white and amber, if the lamp is mounted on the front of the vehicle; or
(2) a red or amber light, or a color between red and amber, if the lamp is mounted on the rear of the vehicle.
(e) A turn signal lamp must be visible in normal sunlight at a distance of:
(1) at least 500 feet from the front and rear of the vehicle if the vehicle is at least 80 inches wide; and
(2) at least 300 feet from the front and rear of the vehicle if the vehicle is less than 80 inches wide.
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Unfortunately I think the US/NA bound F30 will have red turn signals in the rear. I don't like them as well, but you could either get a Euro-spec tail light swapped in or hopefully there is a blackline equivalent
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it's a US federal regulation.

here it is:

(d) A turn signal lamp shall emit:
(1) a white or amber light, or a color between white and amber, if the lamp is mounted on the front of the vehicle; or
(2) a red or amber light, or a color between red and amber, if the lamp is mounted on the rear of the vehicle.
The law you posted does not say a tail light has to be red.
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The law you posted does not say a tail light has to be red.
Ok, are we really complaining about a flippin' tail light. Oh, to be so privileged to actually have the ability to do such silly things.
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The law you posted does not say a tail light has to be red.
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Ok, are we really complaining about a flippin' tail light. Oh, to be so privileged to actually have the ability to do such silly things.
No arguing, I'm just puzzled as well. What is the relevance of that post lol.
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Never understood the rational for foreign car manufacturers, which are generally required to have amber turn signals, switch to red for their US bound vehicles when we allow either. There are some Jap cars out there with weak red turnsignals barely discernable against their red brake lights - yet these cars have amber in their home market!
There must be a buck saved somewhere - but I don't see where!
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Ok, are we really complaining about a flippin' tail light. Oh, to be so privileged to actually have the ability to do such silly things.
WTF are you talking about? Privileged? I'm not complaining, nor do I care, about the color of the rear turn signal. That was the OP bringing up the issue. Memphis1 says RED is required by law and backs that up by posting text of the law that says no such thing. I simply pointed out the oversight.

BTW, if you find complaining about a tail light, or reflector color, or any other minor aspect of these cars so annoying these forums will surely drive you crazy.
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Lol. You're definitely right on that one. Oh well.
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