Fucking Auto Stop AGHHHHHHH

FieldingMellish · 02-04-2017, 11:55 AM

So I just went out for a drive, continuing to get to know the new car and new engine, didn't do too bad, about 45 miles in sport mode, with the transmission in auto too, a reasonably spirited drive, averaged 37 mpg. Unbelievable!

So I am gradually getting used to the ballache of having to hit the Auto Stop button to disable it every time I start the car, with the added niggle that you can't see the light from the driving position so you can't easily check if you've remembered to do it..... anyway I definitely did this time, then I was in sport mode most of teh drive so fine, then nearing home with traffic building up ahead of me I put it into comfort mode, and had to pause at a roundabout and the bloody engine switched itself off! SO if you switch Auto STop off, then drive i sport mode (which in itself disables it), then you switch back into comfort and it re-enables itself? FFS. Whoever invented this shite really needs a good kicking.

I hear you can get BMW to code it so it remembers the last setting i.e. off as in fuck. Bu then again, as my 10 year old son said, "Who knows what they would mess up while fixing it for you..."

Any other ways round this nonsense?

stefan4 · 02-04-2017, 12:03 PM

stick to the left, sport mode or a hard shove to the brake after coming to a stop all disable stop start.

Craig-SM · 02-04-2017, 12:15 PM

You can code the stop/start to remember its previous state when you last switched it off. I did it through Carly.
As Steven said when coming to stop press firmer on the brake then release the pressure whilst still depressing the pedal, needs to be done within a second. It will then temporarily disable start stop.

225 · 02-04-2017, 12:51 PM

Top of the list for coding. As per other threads a tenner for a cable and the world is your oyster... well you can do that and some other useful stuff!

vadimo · 02-04-2017, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FieldingMellish

So I just went out for a drive, continuing to get to know the new car and new engine, didn't do too bad, about 45 miles in sport mode, with the transmission in auto too, a reasonably spirited drive, averaged 37 mpg. Unbelievable!

So I am gradually getting used to the ballache of having to hit the Auto Stop button to disable it every time I start the car, with the added niggle that you can't see the light from the driving position so you can't easily check if you've remembered to do it..... anyway I definitely did this time, then I was in sport mode most of teh drive so fine, then nearing home with traffic building up ahead of me I put it into comfort mode, and had to pause at a roundabout and the bloody engine switched itself off! SO if you switch Auto STop off, then drive i sport mode (which in itself disables it), then you switch back into comfort and it re-enables itself? FFS. Whoever invented this shite really needs a good kicking.

I hear you can get BMW to code it so it remembers the last setting i.e. off as in fuck. Bu then again, as my 10 year old son said, "Who knows what they would mess up while fixing it for you..."

Any other ways round this nonsense?

bmw offer disable this by default, not sure by how much they rip you off

ukbeemerboy · 02-04-2017, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vadimo

bmw offer disable this by default, not sure by how much they rip you off

BMW won't offer this coding as the taxation of the car is based on the stop start system being active. A third party could coded though as others have said.

sap1000 · 02-04-2017, 02:59 PM

coded it on my car, drove me mad having to switch it off. it still turns on if you got to eco pro though.

Grant_7 · 02-04-2017, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FieldingMellish

SO if you switch Auto STop off, then drive i sport mode (which in itself disables it), then you switch back into comfort and it re-enables itself? FFS. Whoever invented this shite really needs a good kicking.

Mine doesn't do that. Once I press OFF then that's it for the journey, regardless of Sport/Comfort mode changes.

dopper99 · 02-04-2017, 05:30 PM

Yeah agreed, its doesnt enable itself if you go into Comfort mode.

However, if you go into Eco poo mode it WILL enable itself. Maybe the OP did that and didn't realise?

Esto-Grande · 02-04-2017, 05:36 PM

I was pulling up to a stop the other day and went to hit the Auto Stop button, pressed the wrong frigging button and turned the engine off completely, bit of a shocker.

These buttons need to be in different places IMO.

FieldingMellish · 02-04-2017, 05:37 PM

Hmm worrying. Pretty sure I wasn't in Eco mode.

elstoof · 02-05-2017, 03:04 AM

What's the big issue with the engine switching off in comfort mode? Comes back on quickly enough, and sport mode switches it off anyway.

MRPoisson · 02-05-2017, 04:07 AM

A non issue for me. I happily use the stop/start and can feather the brake accordingly if I don't want it to kick in

MashinBenzin · 02-05-2017, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by elstoof

What's the big issue with the engine switching off in comfort mode? Comes back on quickly enough, and sport mode switches it off anyway.

I do find it comes on quickly enough too. By the time I have taken the pressure off the brake pedal and halfway across to the accelerator, the engine is ready. My E90 diesel was much slower to respond though, so maybe certain engines are slower?

FieldingMellish · 02-05-2017, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by elstoof

What's the big issue with the engine switching off in comfort mode? Comes back on quickly enough, and sport mode switches it off anyway.

It's annoying. It's very jarring when the engine suddenly cuts out. It's distracting and potentially dangerous.

Kal101 · 02-05-2017, 06:09 AM

Mine stopped working by itself some time ago - maybe due to the black bye draining battery.

Might mention it to the dealer next time in the hope that they'll put on the latest engine and gearbox soft ware. Might try for suspension as well.

Grant_7 · 02-05-2017, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dopper99

Yeah agreed, its doesnt enable itself if you go into Comfort mode.

However, if you go into Eco poo mode it WILL enable itself. Maybe the OP did that and didn't realise?

Ah yes, Eco Poo will turn it back on. Forgotten that...mainly as I never use Eco Poo.

sap1000 · 02-05-2017, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by elstoof

What's the big issue with the engine switching off in comfort mode? Comes back on quickly enough, and sport mode switches it off anyway.

what alot of people don't realise is how much wear is put on the starter and ring gear, more for dealer to replace when they wear out as it is the flywheel that needs replacing as well as starter motor.

Thisisdudewhoru · 02-05-2017, 08:29 AM

Interesting. My car 16 340i and my old 15 x3 once I turned it off it stayed off for the life of the car. Never had to push it again when getting in

Gurvini · 02-05-2017, 08:54 AM

it is frigging annoying! a few times I've hit start stop instead of auto stop at a red light and panicked when I first got my car.

elstoof · 02-05-2017, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FieldingMellish

It's annoying. It's very jarring when the engine suddenly cuts out. It's distracting and potentially dangerous.

It doesn't suddenly cut out though, it stops when you've stopped. If it's stopping surprises you, maybe you're not paying enough attention. As for wear and tear, has anyone needed work done to fix problems caused by stop start systems yet? I'll concede that it's potentially annoying though, that's entirely subjective.

BMWChap · 02-05-2017, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by elstoof

What's the big issue with the engine switching off in comfort mode? Comes back on quickly enough, and sport mode switches it off anyway.

Engages quickly on mine too, no jarring, very smooth, maybe you have an issue with Auto-Start ?, worth asking a technician to take your car out for a spin.

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FieldingMellish Captain 171 Rep 981 Posts Drives: F30 330D M Sport auto Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Manchester iTrader: (0)	Fucking Auto Stop AGHHHHHHH So I just went out for a drive, continuing to get to know the new car and new engine, didn't do too bad, about 45 miles in sport mode, with the transmission in auto too, a reasonably spirited drive, averaged 37 mpg. Unbelievable! So I am gradually getting used to the ballache of having to hit the Auto Stop button to disable it every time I start the car, with the added niggle that you can't see the light from the driving position so you can't easily check if you've remembered to do it..... anyway I definitely did this time, then I was in sport mode most of teh drive so fine, then nearing home with traffic building up ahead of me I put it into comfort mode, and had to pause at a roundabout and the bloody engine switched itself off! SO if you switch Auto STop off, then drive i sport mode (which in itself disables it), then you switch back into comfort and it re-enables itself? FFS. Whoever invented this shite really needs a good kicking. I hear you can get BMW to code it so it remembers the last setting i.e. off as in fuck. Bu then again, as my 10 year old son said, "Who knows what they would mess up while fixing it for you..." Any other ways round this nonsense?
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sap1000 Private First Class 27 Rep 114 Posts Drives: F30 320i Sport Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK, Farnham iTrader: (0)	coded it on my car, drove me mad having to switch it off. it still turns on if you got to eco pro though.
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FieldingMellish Captain 171 Rep 981 Posts Drives: F30 330D M Sport auto Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Manchester iTrader: (0)	Hmm worrying. Pretty sure I wasn't in Eco mode.
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