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      12-29-2014, 01:46 PM   #1
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Should I sell my 435?

Its been a year with my 435 and I am kinda bored with the car.

Anyway I am keen on an E70 X5M. I test drove one today and the power of the car is just awesome. It reminds me of my e92 M3.

Any thoughts on this option? I know that the E70 is now the previous model, but I will not be able to afford the new X5M and I don't think I will enjoy the other engine options...
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Your car takes the largest $ hit during the first year of ownership. Unless you are willing to lose a lot of money, I would keep it for another year.
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      12-29-2014, 02:58 PM   #3
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I already had an X5M. The power is nice, but working to pay the gas bill isn't nice at all. Suckers DRINK gas. I don't think I ever broke 20mpg, even on all highway trips. Its rated for like 12/17.
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Wow, you think an SUV would be more fun to drive than a sports coupe? No way. While it is more powerful, there is no way it is as maneuverable or even as fast off the line. I had an X5 and that thing was so boring to drive. If you want fun, an SUV is the LAST thing you should consider.

Why don't you look at getting the MPPK or other tune installed if you are bored already? As has been mentioned, you are going to take a major hit money-wise if you sell the 435i now.
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The X5M is good for straight line power, but the moment you throw it at corners, it's no bueno. If you like that kind of power, there is always the M3/M4, M5/M6/M6 GC that can not only go fast in a straight line, but will also corner much better than the X5M.

Or, consider an AMG, RS, or other cars.
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Wow, you think an SUV would be more fun to drive than a sports coupe? No way. While it is more powerful, there is no way it is as maneuverable or even as fast off the line. I had an X5 and that thing was so boring to drive. If you want fun, an SUV is the LAST thing you should consider.

Why don't you look at getting the MPPK or other tune installed if you are bored already? As has been mentioned, you are going to take a major hit money-wise if you sell the 435i now.
Yes, mod it up - have you tried MPK or MPE, etc? In any case you'll loose a lot in the deal.
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WOW on my 5th Bimmer (even owned a Z4m for 4 years!) got bored with NONE of them and the honeymoon with my 435GC may last for a lONG time- As a matter of fact I even slept in her last night...
OK I didnt but I wanted too!
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Wow, you think an SUV would be more fun to drive than a sports coupe? No way. While it is more powerful, there is no way it is as maneuverable or even as fast off the line.
Do some research, you're badly underestimating the X5M. I could consistently turn sub-4 second 0-60s and 12.3-12.4 1/4s with the X5M. 435 ain't doing that. And its plenty maneuverable. I could take that truck through the twisties as fast as anything I've ever owned, and I've owned some pretty good handling cars (E39, CTS-V, SRT8s).

It ain't your run of the mill, off the shelf, mommy mobile, like your X5.
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Wow, you think an SUV would be more fun to drive than a sports coupe? No way. While it is more powerful, there is no way it is as maneuverable or even as fast off the line.
Do some research, you're badly underestimating the X5M. I could consistently turn sub-4 second 0-60s and 12.3-12.4 1/4s with the X5M. 435 ain't doing that. And its plenty maneuverable. I could take that truck through the twisties as fast as anything I've ever owned, and I've owned some pretty good handling cars (E39, CTS-V, SRT8s).

It ain't your run of the mill, off the shelf, mommy mobile, like your X5.
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Do some research, you're badly underestimating the X5M. I could consistently turn sub-4 second 0-60s and 12.3-12.4 1/4s with the X5M. 435 ain't doing that. And its plenty maneuverable. I could take that truck through the twisties as fast as anything I've ever owned, and I've owned some pretty good handling cars (E39, CTS-V, SRT8s).

It ain't your run of the mill, off the shelf, mommy mobile, like your X5.
I've directly compared the X5M against the E92 M3, F10 M5 and M135i on a race track. It is without doubt the worst handling car (truck) on the day compared to the others.
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I've directly compared the X5M against the E92 M3, F10 M5 and M135i on a race track. It is without doubt the worst handling car (truck) on the day compared to the others.
So you're comparing it to 3 M tuned cars, 2 of which easily weigh 1000-1500lbs less than it and have a foot lower center of gravity, without having time to learn its limits, and you're surprised that it doesn't handle as well to you? Was it the truck that didn't handle as well, or was its limits higher than yours? If you didn't spin it, you didn't reach the limits of the truck. You need to try harder.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, on this forum will ever exceed the limits of the truck on public roads, and 99.9% couldn't do it on a track either. That makes whatever point you're trying to make absolutely moot. Even if its limits are lower than the other M cars, if you can't reach the trucks limits, you can't reach the cars' limits either.
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So you're comparing it to 3 M tuned cars, 2 of which easily weigh 1000-1500lbs less than it and have a foot lower center of gravity, without having time to learn its limits, and you're surprised that it doesn't handle as well to you? Was it the truck that didn't handle as well, or was its limits higher than yours? If you didn't spin it, you didn't reach the limits of the truck. You need to try harder.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, on this forum will ever exceed the limits of the truck on public roads, and 99.9% couldn't do it on a track either. That makes whatever point you're trying to make absolutely moot. Even if its limits are lower than the other M cars, if you can't reach the trucks limits, you can't reach the cars' limits either.
I fail to see your point. I simply stated that I did not find the X5M a rewarding drive when pushed hard. Frankly, it was hard work compared to the grace and natural balance of the the others. If that is your idea of fun, more power to you.
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I fail to see your point. I simply stated that I did not find the X5M a rewarding drive when pushed hard. Frankly, it was hard work compared to the grace and natural balance of the the others. If that is your idea of fun, more power to you.
Sure its work, but thats what makes it rewarding. Its exactly the same as the first and second gen Viper. Work and it will be your friend. Expect it to work for you and its an uncontrollable beast. Not saying the X5M is an uncontrollable beast, under any circumstances, just comparing the fact that both require you to pay attention to the car and what its doing to get it to go fast.
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So you're comparing it to 3 M tuned cars, 2 of which easily weigh 1000-1500lbs less than it and have a foot lower center of gravity, without having time to learn its limits, and you're surprised that it doesn't handle as well to you? Was it the truck that didn't handle as well, or was its limits higher than yours? If you didn't spin it, you didn't reach the limits of the truck. You need to try harder.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, on this forum will ever exceed the limits of the truck on public roads, and 99.9% couldn't do it on a track either. That makes whatever point you're trying to make absolutely moot. Even if its limits are lower than the other M cars, if you can't reach the trucks limits, you can't reach the cars' limits either.
Sorry but there is a big difference between driving to it's limits and it's potential. It's pretty easy to find the limits of a car, the 99% will have a hard time finding its potential.
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A year? Lol I still treat my car like I got it yesterday and it's been 12 months..still in honeymoon phase. If money is no issue, get the X5. You know what you're getting yourself into..if you are the type that constantly changes cars
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I get it totally

I completely understand where you're coming from. I have an F10 535 M Sport and have to turn it in soon. I went to drive a 435 thinking Id love the car just like I loved my E92 335 M Sport but I actually hated it. And that was with a manual. To me the 435 is overweight, overly long, too wide and too lumpy. Its really not attractive at any angle with any wheels and even the M Sport trim. I test drove the car for almost an hour and was already bored with it. When you build a coupe you build it to be beautiful, or to handle better than the sedan. You build it so people fall in love with the car (like the E92 M Sport IMO). The 435 reminds me more of my overweight and underwhelming F10 than of an F30 335.

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Its been a year with my 435 and I am kinda bored with the car.

Anyway I am keen on an E70 X5M. I test drove one today and the power of the car is just awesome. It reminds me of my e92 M3.

Any thoughts on this option? I know that the E70 is now the previous model, but I will not be able to afford the new X5M and I don't think I will enjoy the other engine options...
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I have stepped on the brake, for the time being, on the X5 purchase. I am uncertain as to whether I will be happy with a previous generation X5.

However, I have been doing some searches and there are, all of a sudden, a couple of 1Ms for sale. Still pricey, but that's an interesting option....
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I'd be happy with another one. Wouldn't get one though because of the awful economy.
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I completely understand where you're coming from. I have an F10 535 M Sport and have to turn it in soon. I went to drive a 435 thinking Id love the car just like I loved my E92 335 M Sport but I actually hated it. And that was with a manual. To me the 435 is overweight, overly long, too wide and too lumpy. Its really not attractive at any angle with any wheels and even the M Sport trim. I test drove the car for almost an hour and was already bored with it. When you build a coupe you build it to be beautiful, or to handle better than the sedan. You build it so people fall in love with the car (like the E92 M Sport IMO). The 435 reminds me more of my overweight and underwhelming F10 than of an F30 335.
Wow i totally disagree! This is one of the very few negative opinions of the 4, you must think the 4GC is even worse?

For me, the 4GC is the best car that I have owned, both as a daily Driver and a Sports Car. You drove a 535, and think the 4 is too big?

Which exact model did you see and test? (Not attractive)
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I completely understand where you're coming from. I have an F10 535 M Sport and have to turn it in soon. I went to drive a 435 thinking Id love the car just like I loved my E92 335 M Sport but I actually hated it. And that was with a manual. To me the 435 is overweight, overly long, too wide and too lumpy. Its really not attractive at any angle with any wheels and even the M Sport trim. I test drove the car for almost an hour and was already bored with it. When you build a coupe you build it to be beautiful, or to handle better than the sedan. You build it so people fall in love with the car (like the E92 M Sport IMO). The 435 reminds me more of my overweight and underwhelming F10 than of an F30 335.
The 435i curb weight is less than the e92 335i curb weight so I'm really not sure where this overweight comment is coming from, that is unless you considered your E92 335i even more overweight.
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Ok, so I test drove the 1M and it is absolutely insane. It reminds me of my E92 M3, but just better!

The stance of the 1M is just sexy and in my opinion better than my 435.

When I bought my 435, I took delivery in the first week when the car came to South Africa, so it was nice to have a unique car. Now, a year later, it has become too common. Also, even though Estoril blue is a cool colour, it has become the new alpine white (almost), so my car is not a head turner....

Anyway, I think I am going to pull the trigger on the 1M. It is a 2012, alpine white with 24 000km. Pic below.

Do you think it is a downgrade from the 435?
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