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      06-03-2013, 05:15 PM   #287
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Guess it was too much to hope for a 6MT in North America. When will manufacturers realize there are people out there who want the utility of a hatch/wagon (the added back seat space is nice too), AND the ability to row your own gears?
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      06-04-2013, 07:14 AM   #288
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OK, so you don't take a hint. How about some Latin then?

De gustibus non disputandum est.

Better?
Dead language. Even more pointless.
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      06-04-2013, 08:56 AM   #289
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Dead language. Even more pointless.
You know what's really pointless? Your continued presence in this thread. You contributed only closed-mindedness, ignorance, and the demonstration of your own poor taste.
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      06-04-2013, 10:57 AM   #290
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Can we get back to the 3GT?

Dealer telling me they should get their allocations this week. Has anyone heard anything different?

I am also wondering if I should take the Luxury Line or the Sports Line. Or no line.

I want a light interior which pretty much voids the Sports line. Are the sports seats that good?

The luxury line looks OK. I like the steering wheel but I really do not fancy the door sills with BMW luxury written on it. Is it removable?

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You know what's really pointless? Your continued presence in this thread. You contributed only closed-mindedness, ignorance, and the demonstration of your own poor taste.
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      06-06-2013, 02:41 PM   #292
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Can we get back to the 3GT?

Dealer telling me they should get their allocations this week. Has anyone heard anything different?

I am also wondering if I should take the Luxury Line or the Sports Line. Or no line.

I want a light interior which pretty much voids the Sports line. Are the sports seats that good?

The luxury line looks OK. I like the steering wheel but I really do not fancy the door sills with BMW luxury written on it. Is it removable?

Thoughts?

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The 3GT begins production in July. I am doing ED with September delivery. CA telling me it's too early to reserve ED now, maybe in July he can get the pre-reservation sent in.

Personally not a fan of any of the line except the M-sport, which is what we'll be getting.
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Personally not a fan of any of the line except the M-sport, which is what we'll be getting.
So, will you have to get an xdrive version or will rwd GT be available in July for Sept. ED? Thanks.
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At this time I believe only xdrive is available for the US market. If that's the case we'd still get it since we need the car soon. I do prefer rwd GT if it's going to be available.
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The 3GT begins production in July. I am doing ED with September delivery. CA telling me it's too early to reserve ED now, maybe in July he can get the pre-reservation sent in.

Personally not a fan of any of the line except the M-sport, which is what we'll be getting.
Yes. The M-sports looks pretty good. Is it compatible with Active Cruise?

On the sedan and the wagon, it is not. But interestingly, you can build an Msport 3GT with ACC on the UK web site.

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Malaysia only got the 328i sport line introduced today when that country uses mostly diesels. Don't you wonder who is making decisions for which GT models get introduced into the various countries? It seems like one should be able to get the exact model variation when custom ordering from the factory since they all come off the same assembly line. Having been to the BMW factory in SC, I've seen the assembly line where a gas engine X6 with sport wheels headed for Europe is directly followed by an X5 diesel luxury line for local delivery. The robots and computers can make any variant without hesitation based on the order # programmed into the system. My choice - I'll have a red Modern Line GT 320d with saddle interior (no xdrive) with all the gadgets. But the BMW gods say "We can easily make it for you, but won't ship it to the US. How 'bout an xdrive sport with red coral interior?"
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Yikes! Take a look at the 3 GT pricing in Australia. At least they will have all the BMW lines to choose from.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/235017/b...d-sized-hatch/
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      06-30-2013, 06:59 AM   #298
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Still hoping the US will get RWD and all the model lines including the Modern Line according to the official press release - nothing mentioned about xdrive or xdrive only. Perhaps it will show up on the BMWNA website this week?

Here's an excerpt from the official press release.
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The All-New BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo.
Innovative vehicle concept comes to the 3 Series Line-up.
Woodcliff Lake, N.J. – February 6, 2013 . . . The all-new BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo adds an innovative new concept to the BMW 3 Series lineup. The BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo is, first and foremost, a driver’s car which combines the dynamics that have earned the new 3 Series a spot on “Car and Driver’s” 10Best list for 22nd consecutive years, with luxury seating for four and generous and flexible luggage capacity. The new BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo will arrive in the US, as both a 328i and a 335i, in the summer of 2013 as a 2014 model.
Three equipment lines, each with their own individual character and M Sport
High-quality material combinations coupled with class-leading levels of workmanship reinforce the premium ambience on board the new BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo. A large number of color and upholstery variants offer scope for a multitude of combinations. Customers can also choose from three additional equipment plus M Sport, all of which add individual touches to the car’s looks inside and out. Indeed, even the ignition key shares the color-coding of the equipment line specified.

Sport Line: The Sport Line adds extra depth to the dynamic repertoire of the BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo with a selection of eye-catching exterior features in high-gloss black. Nine molded black kidney grille slats in a chrome-colored surround lend the front end a particularly sporty and alert look, and the forward-slanting angle of the BMW kidneys gains further visual impact. The black air intakes and likewise gleaming black Air Breathers, meanwhile, draw the eye to the car’s aerodynamics features. Optional 18-inch or 19-inch light-alloy wheels – depending on the model – in double-spoke design provide an additional dose of sportiness, while exterior mirrors and a “wraparound” window strip, B-pillars in matching paint finish and a trim strip at rear apron height add further flourishes. Inside the car, the contrast between black and red accents adds a sporty and exclusive allure that is heightened by the accent strips in the doors (also part of the Luxury and Modern Lines as well as M Sport). The standard sports seats can be specified with a choice of upholstery and colors.

Luxury Line: Discreet high-gloss chrome touches lend the exterior of the BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo a particularly elegant and exclusive appeal. 11 intricate kidney grille slats with chrome-colored fronts and matt black sides, two chrome blades in the front apron air intakes and chrome Air Breathers all furnish classy touches. Within the gleaming chrome window surround, the black B-pillar provides a particular highlight, and special 18 and 19-inch light-alloy wheels in a multi-spoke design accentuate the elegance of the Luxury Line. The Gran Turismo Luxury Line can be identified from the rear by a stylish, high-gloss chrome strip above the rear apron and a chrome exhaust tailpipe embellisher. The interior also stands out with various chrome elements, such as the surround for the audio and air conditioning system. High-gloss wood strips and seats with distinctive stitching highlight the exclusivity of the Luxury Line.

Modern Line: High-quality chrome exterior trim elements define the cool aesthetic of the Modern Line, while the BMW kidney grille with 11 slats, the Air Breathers and the double trim strips for the air intakes continue the theme. 18 or 19-inch turbine-style light-alloy wheels lend a fresh angle to the exterior design of the BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo, while the light-colored dashboard coupled with a steering wheel in dark oyster create a very special ambience in the cockpit. Leather upholstery in oyster or black, and a choice of three trim surfaces with accent strips in pearl-effect chrome, ensure an appealing interplay between materials.
M Sport: Optional M Sport line gives the new BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo a shot of adrenaline that spreads beyond its exterior and interior design. As well as the all-new aerodynamic package, including numerous body components (front apron with large air intake, rear bumper with diffuser, side skirts), and the BMW Individual High-gloss Shadow Line trim, the optional exterior color Estoril Blue metallic ensures an unmistakably sporty appearance and unbeatable road presence – an effect underpinned by 18 or 19-inch light-alloy wheels in hallmark M design. Inside the car, features such as M door sill finishers, an M leather steering wheel and an M driver’s footrest shape the sporty yet elegance ambience. The driver and front passenger can settle into sports seats. Technical features of this package include lowered M Sport suspension and enhanced aerodynamics.
Exterior colors and wheels: The spectrum of colors available for the new BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo takes its cues from the BMW 3 Series Sedan and ranges from elegant and classic to modern and expressive. Customers can choose from a total of 12 paint finishes, irrespective of the equipment line specified, including intense color shades, an array of metallic options and a broad spread of classic tones. The Kalahari Beige metallic, Midnight Blue metallic and Sparkling Brown metallic shades are reserved exclusively for the new BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo.

BMW 328i Gran Turismo: 4-cylinder gasoline engine with TwinPower Turbo technology sets the benchmark for dynamics and efficiency
The state-of-the-art, lively 2.0-litre engine marks a return to the 3 Series roots – it was with lightweight, high-performance 4-cylinder engines in a similar vein that the BMW 3 Series made its debut back in 1975. The significant upgrade in power and efficiency
is chiefly down to the use of BMW TwinPower Turbo technology, which combines High Precision Direct Gas Injection, Double-Vanos variable camshaft timing and Valvetronic variable valve timing along with twin-scroll turbocharging. On the new-generation 4-cylinder engine, this world-exclusive technology package from BMW again provides a very efficient way to extract more power from the engine, rather than taking the route of a much larger displacement and, in the process, adding to the weight and therefore to fuel consumption. This explains why the more dynamic performance and driving enjoyment does not come at the expense of higher fuel consumption and emissions.
The new BMW TwinPower Turbo 4-cylinder’s displacement of 1,997 cc delivers maximum power of 180 kW/240 hp at 5,000 rpm while, thanks to twin-scroll turbocharging, the maximum torque of 255 lb-ft is developed at just 1,250 rpm and remains constant up to 4,800 rpm. These statistics translate to commensurately dynamic performance. The engine responds instantly when the driver demands more throttle, and the vigorous and almost linear power delivery from only slightly above idle, which continues all the way into the higher rpm range, is duly impressive.
BMW TwinPower Turbo technology in the new 4-cylinder engine
This new engine is the most powerful in a new generation of 4-cylinder engines designed in accordance with the BMW EfficientDynamics strategy, which aims to combine increased driving enjoyment with reduced fuel consumption and emissions.

BMW 335i Gran Turismo: Inline 6-cylinder engine with beefy power delivery, strong torque and superb refinement
Fans of large 6-cylinder engines have a treat in store too. The inline 6-cylinder engine (N55) in the BMW 335i Gran Turismo will impress performance-minded drivers with its effortless power, exceptionally fast-revving temperament and outstanding refinement. The N55 has been setting standards from the start, as the pioneer of a new generation of engines in which BMW TwinPower Turbo technology with High Precision Direct Injection and Valvetronic variable valve timing plus a twin scroll turbo made its debut.
Thanks to intensive fine-tuning of the engine, BMW’s engineers have now further reduced the fuel consumption and emissions of the predecessor, while at the same time maintaining its high performance. With a maximum power rating of 225 kW/ 300 hp at 5,800 rpm, the 3.0-liter 6-cylinder unit reflects the sporty personality of the BMW 3 Series and helps deliver brilliant performance. And the high peak torque of 300 lb-ft, on stream between 1,200 and 5,000 rpm, ensures that the power is effortlessly and instantly delivered.

The all-new BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo will arrive in US showrooms in late 2013 as a 2014 model.
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So, if people don't like it....that reduces the price a bit?

I can only wish.
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active blindspot detection (pretty useful considering the issues with the side view mirrors)
Could you point me to issues with side view mirrors? I've seen reference to wind noise, but wasn't sure if this was what you had in mind. If there are other issues, I'd like to learn what they are. Thanks.
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I've just received the 08/2013 update of ETK, and the US version of 335i GT RWD has been dropped from the database (previously, the test examples were listed there). The test examples of US 328i GT RWD are still there. Just a datapoint, make your own conclusions.
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Due to the amazing tax policy, an Alpine White 320d GT M Sport with Techno Plus and Premium Packages has costs around 74.000Euros, which is around 100.000USD.
Can't believe the difference on pricing, as it's 40.000USD in USA.
Simply half of the price here.
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Due to the amazing tax policy, an Alpine White 320d GT M Sport with Techno Plus and Premium Packages has costs around 74.000Euros, which is around 100.000USD.
Can't believe the difference on pricing, as it's 40.000USD in USA.
Simply half of the price here.
Technically that would be a $50,000 car in the US. But you're right, half the price of yours.
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Just ordered a Mineral Grey with Red interior 335I Gran Tourismo. 19 inch wheels, Tech Package, Cold Weather Package, Drivers assistance package. Im doing my 4th Euro Delivery in March. Cant wait to pick this car up. 4 BMW's in a row and decided to get an Infiniti M37x. Now back to BMW once again
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Just ordered a Mineral Grey with Red interior 335I Gran Tourismo. 19 inch wheels, Tech Package, Cold Weather Package, Drivers assistance package. Im doing my 4th Euro Delivery in March. Cant wait to pick this car up. 4 BMW's in a row and decided to get an Infiniti M37x. Now back to BMW once again
My 335GT is the same color combo, I love it! I moved from a 550GT to the 335GT and while I loved the 5GT, I really, really love my 3GT, I'm sure you will too!
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