[n55x3]

What was the driver side radiator for vs the passenger side radiator? I've got a 2013 MSport, obviously no fogs, and multiple radiators sprinkled here and there. I wonder why one was eliminated or maybe they relocated?

Do these fog light version MSports still have cooling ducts that lead directly to the calipers?

For what it's worth, I like mine without fogs, I think it gives it a more mean look with the big gaping FUNCTIONAL air scoops on each side. I like that you can clearly see the radiators on each side too.

[TheCamboRambo]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Your main concern should remain with the airbags. Fog lights are not that important.

What does airbags have to do with the MSport package/M sport brakes specifically?

[Tony_YYZ]

It's a confirmed option for 2015's in Canada. In the updated Configurator on bmw.ca it shows foglamps as standard for the 335 but are removed when the M-Performance package is added.

[DJ Rocc]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Your main concern should remain with the airbags. Fog lights are not that important.

LOL'.

I really love fog lights they help a lot on these dimly lit roads. All my previous cars had them.

[KGB_123_99]

Originally Posted by f30GTR

So the driver side radiator is for the brake oil?

According to RealOem, the driver side is for engine oil cooling and the passenger side is an additional coolant radiator.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partgrp.d...13&hg=17&fg=05

[DJ Rocc]

Originally Posted by KGB_123_99

According to RealOem, the driver side is for engine oil cooling and the passenger side is an additional coolant radiator.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partgrp.d...13&hg=17&fg=05

I wonder if these radiators are moved or eliminated in Fog-Light Versions? and what kind of Advantages/disadvantages in performance is there?

[trk411]

Originally Posted by DJ Rocc

I wonder if these radiators are moved or eliminated in Fog-Light Versions? and what kind of Advantages/disadvantages in performance is there?

On my 2015 335 M-Sport there is only a radiator on the passenger side. I've not looked to determine if it is coolant or oil related. What I can say is that the oil temps on this car tend to run a good bit cooler than what they did on my 335 E90.

[buckybadger]

2014 and no fogs here. The fogs IMO make the bumper too busy. I do like them though and its a personal preference.

Build top of the line MSport from BMWUSA and doesn't show any fogs here:
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...tionId=5719023

I think the OP might have got a non-US BMW config? Check with the dealer for more details.

[trk411]

Originally Posted by deznium

2014 and no fogs here. The fogs IMO make the bumper too busy. I do like them though and its a personal preference.

Build top of the line MSport from BMWUSA and doesn't show any fogs here:
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...tionId=5719023

I think the OP might have got a non-US BMW config? Check with the dealer for more details.

I don't think this was an accident. Others with 2015's in the US have fogs, but the trend seems to be that fogs cannot coexist with the M brake package.

Edit: Also, I don't think that BMW has revised the image that is shown when building...

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by trk411

I don't think this was an accident. Others with 2015's in the US have fogs, but the trend seems to be that fogs cannot coexist with the M brake package.

Edit: Also, I don't think that BMW has revised the image that is shown when building...

Doesn't matter what you or I think. The OP should check with the dealership for further details.

[f30GTR]

Originally Posted by KGB_123_99

According to RealOem, the driver side is for engine oil cooling and the passenger side is an additional coolant radiator.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partgrp.d...13&hg=17&fg=05

Thank you for the info sir. Now I'm wondering like everyone how this relates to the m sport brakes.

[trk411]

Originally Posted by deznium

Doesn't matter what you or I think. The OP should check with the dealership for further details.

I am the OP....

[claykin]

Originally Posted by trk411

I don't think this was an accident. Others with 2015's in the US have fogs, but the trend seems to be that fogs cannot coexist with the M brake package.

Edit: Also, I don't think that BMW has revised the image that is shown when building...

There's always the possibility this is a production error on US builds. Its happened before.

[trk411]

Originally Posted by claykin

There's always the possibility this is a production error on US builds. Its happened before.

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but did you read the entire thread??? Did you not see the other 2015 M-Sport cars WITH fogs? With all of those cars in the US, clearly my car is not an anomaly. It is very apparent that there was a change for 2015 for fogs, which seems to be related to M brakes. Quite honestly, I don't care why/how as I am happy I have them.

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by trk411

I am the OP....

Yes you are the OP, so please check with the dealership and don't make any assumptions.

Its very possible that this could be a configuration issue or it is what it is, i.e. the 2015 model. Either way, there's no way to tell for sure unless you present facts from BMWUSA or the official dealer.

[trk411]

Originally Posted by deznium

Yes you are the OP, so please check with the dealership and don't make any assumptions.

Its very possible that this could be a configuration issue or it is what it is, i.e. the 2015 model. Either way, there's no way to tell for sure unless you present facts from BMWUSA or the official dealer.

Honestly, I don't care enough to put the time and effort into determining exactly why I have fog lights. I like them and am happy I have them. I am also not making assumptions; rather, I am simply drawing from what others have posted in this thread. Clearly I am not the only one with a 2015 with fogs. Feel free to do some research on your own if you are so inclined.

[claykin]

Originally Posted by trk411

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but did you read the entire thread??? Did you not see the other 2015 M-Sport cars WITH fogs? With all of those cars in the US, clearly my car is not an anomaly. It is very apparent that there was a change for 2015 for fogs, which seems to be related to M brakes. Quite honestly, I don't care why/how as I am happy I have them.

All good. Yes I did. Back in 2012 BMW made an error and shipped a bunch of 3 series to the US with USB and BT deleted. That was not a viable delete for the US market, and the issue was corrected a short time later. Mistakes happen and not always with one car.

All good if you are happy with the fogs. I like them as well, but not at the expense of losing the ventilated trim and aux radiators.

[trk411]

Originally Posted by claykin

All good. Yes I did. Back in 2012 BMW made an error and shipped a bunch of 3 series to the US with USB and BT deleted (and even gave a credit for it even though that was not a viable delete for the US market) even through they should not have been built that way. Mistakes happen and not always with one car.

All good if you are happy with the fogs. I like them as well, but not at the expense of losing the ventilated trim and aux radiators.

Understood Like I mentioned before, I still have some sort of aux radiator on the passenger side, but haven't determined if it's coolant or oil. Maybe I'll take a look this weekend to see for sure. In some of the pics of cars with the M brakes, it seems as though there are aux rads on each side.

[DJ Rocc]

From BMW usa today. Build your own, and standard features. 2015 335i

Exterior
• Star Spoke light alloy wheels (Style 396), 18 x 8.0; and 225/45 run-flat1 all-season tires2 (not available with Luxury Line, Sport Line or M Sport)
• Xenon Adaptive Headlights with dynamic auto-leveling, Corona headlight-rings, and LED accent lights
• Halogen free-form front foglights (not available with M Sport or M Sport brakes)
• Power-folding, heated side mirrors
• Matte Chrome window surround (not available with Luxury Line or M Sport)

[Babo335]

I personally do not care for the fog lights. I had them on my previous e92 and rarely if ever had the need to turn them on. I could not really notice any differences as the BiXenon head lights were more than enough.

[DJ Rocc]

Here's my take on looking at this thread and the BMW USA site:

No Fogs for 335i if you have Msport or MBrakes.

but XDrive Brings back the fogs. (Which would make sense)

[trk411]

Originally Posted by DJ Rocc

Here's my take on looking at this thread and the BMW USA site:

No Fogs for 335i if you have Msport or MBrakes.

but XDrive Brings back the fogs. (Which would make sense)

Hmmmm....If that's the case, what is it about Xdrive that gets them added?