[ska///235i]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

Open the door on an F30 3-series, and you'll see a frame around the window around the edges. On the 4-series GC, there is no frame. It's just glass, just like a coupe.

I see now...thanks

[Pure]

Cute!

[AustinPowers007]

Did anyone notoce that one of the interior gallery shots shows a 6MT manual transmission? Could this mean this will be an option in the United States?

Oops. Just saw the announcement that BMW will not be offering a manual transmission for this car in the US. Bummer!

[Ryan9095]

Looks too tall in pictures but it's actually shorter than the F30. I bet it looks amazing in person. Loving the coupe-like body.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by Jason

UPDATE from BMW regarding manual transmission:

Modern Line will not be offered in the US. US models will include the 428i and 435i and the only transmission offered in the US will be the 8-speed sport Steptronic automatic. Images showing the Modern line, 420d badging, manual transmission or cloth M Sport interior will NOT be applicable to the US market.

Sniff sniff. I feel like I just got dumped by BMW. I was looking forward to this car so much! I even sold my e92 to make room for it. That bitch! Lol, ok getting carried away there. Back to the drawing board I guess. I feel like an outcast nowadays looking for a manual, AWD, 4 door car. Not a heck of a lot of good options left. At this point I'm looking at an f30, e90 or an Audi (just for giggles). Am I missing anything here?


Anyway, this right here is a gorgeous car. My heart remains broken. Feeling pretty down about this whole thing. Oh well, nothing a few good Super Bowl commercials won't fix!

[joewalton]

Originally Posted by wzj519

Is it going to compete with MB CLA?

It's the opposite.

The 4 Series GC ($41,000 base) allows the 3 Series ($29,000) to continue to go downmarket and battle the CLA ($29,000).

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by ///M235i

Sniff sniff. I feel like I just got dumped by BMW. I was looking forward to this car so much! I even sold my e92 to make room for it. That bitch! Lol, ok getting carried away there. Back to the drawing board I guess. I feel like an outcast nowadays looking for a manual, AWD, 4 door car. Not a heck of a lot of good options left. At this point I'm looking at an f30, e90 or an Audi (just for giggles). Am I missing anything here?


Anyway, this right here is a gorgeous car. My heart remains broken. Feeling pretty down about this whole thing. Oh well, nothing a few good Super Bowl commercials won't fix!

Auto only, means not for me, but my wife likes the size and hatch and might prefer it to the X1. So might be in the other garage anyway.

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by joewalton

It's the opposite.

The 4 Series GC ($41,000 base) allows the 3 Series ($29,000) to continue to go downmarket and battle the CLA ($29,000).

320 starts at $33k.

4 series has no x20 trim level in this country. 328 vs 428 GC is about $2500 apart.

[Ganxxta]

Looks like this still has the "old" engines

@Scott26

Any news on the new ones? When will the B4x and B5x be available?

If they get introduced with the 2 Sports Tourer thing I will hate BMW for life...

[antzcrashing]

Originally Posted by Kauro

Wow, looks better than i first expected.

+1

[rallybull]

What's' next? An F86?

[SamS]

Originally Posted by rallybull

What's' next? An F86?

F86 = upcoming X6M.

[aajami]

Originally Posted by rallybull

What's' next? An F86?

F86 is the upcoming X6M, so, yeah

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

How long before the M4 GC is announced?

If sales are strong , then we will see an M4 Gran Coupe but it can only be judged within a year of being on the market.
So far there is a proposal but establishment is needed before commitment.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Rear seat has a center seatbelt but no headrest? Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[Mako]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

If sales are strong , then we will see an M4 Gran Coupe but it can only be judged within a year of being on the market.
So far there is a proposal but establishment is needed before commitment.

So probably 2017 model year at the earliest. I was hoping for 2016 (F30 lease is over) but if they are waiting for sales numbers before starting development we are at least 2+ years away.

[wzj519]

Originally Posted by joewalton

It's the opposite.

The 4 Series GC ($41,000 base) allows the 3 Series ($29,000) to continue to go downmarket and battle the CLA ($29,000).

Yep, and then competitions gonna be more interesting to watch.
Rear wheel drive base 3 series vs front wheel drive base CLA, but some MB fan boys will insist CLA is a far better car than 3 series.

[Shaw]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

I really don't understand this logic. You're saying you wouldn't buy the car, so BMW shouldn't produce it. Because clearly the world revolves around you and buyers just like you.



Wait, lemme get this straight. A first time buyer looks at the BMW line-up, finds a car they want, buys it, and this kills BMW's marketshare while helping the competition? I'm really at a loss here.

well let me find you here...what's the point of manufacturing 2 very identical line ups??? I never said they shouldn't produce it...(please read through the logic...)...
I would be very surprised to see someone driving either line, to make an attempt to change to the other line when the time comes...
this is not around me and my world...it is very simple: if you want to compete with your competition, you need to extend your portfolio in a way that covers more ground, not overlap!...I could have lived with only 4 series coupe together with F30 sedan...although they are very similar, but at least 4 coupe is a 2-door...but what is the point of having a 3series and a 4series SO IDENTICAL??? If these two cars were a bit more different, then not only BMW covered more client territories but also securing more retention...
how many who already own a F30 would have enough incentive to switch to a 4series GC or vise versa? That would be very surprising to me if that number is high...
So if I can't afford a higher line up and i would want a bit of a different car and style after driving my F30 (or F36),...what's my other option? switch to other brands in the same price range...make sense?

[Ganxxta]

Found a nice little gimmick in the german pricelist:

It is possible to set how high the trunk will open via iDrive.

Might be very helpful for low garages



Sad that in germany we have to pay an extra of 2350€ for the sport auto while you guys have it already as standard

[southlight]

Originally Posted by Ganxxta

Sad that in germany we have to pay an extra of 2350€ for the sport auto while you guys have it already as standard

That's one way to look at it. I prefer the sentiment that we're lucky to have a manual transmission in Germany, though.


Best regards,
south

[jasemsport]

Another clip i found:

[LSM]

As I've said once they decided to keep the wheelbase the same it ruined the car. The rendered versions I saw were based on the L 3 series version available in China and those looked great. The longer length would have made the execution better and look different enough. As it stands for me anyway its execution is not sucessful, looks identical to 3er and really kinda just looks like a 3GT....FAIL