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      09-23-2013, 09:49 AM   #67
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Bridgestone WS-70 are very good tires, but they are not recommended for rear wheel drive cars. They are very soft and will wear down very quickly. You want to get a tire with a speed rating of at least H!
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      10-07-2013, 10:55 AM   #68
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so i called costco to get price on Michelin Xice 3 and Bridgestone WS70, the guy was telling me to go with the Michelin cause of the rating of tire that my car needs, didnt make any sense to me....
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      10-07-2013, 11:39 AM   #69
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I picked up a set of Replika R141s in 18x8" et35mm offset. I have the blue m brakes and the manufacturer confirmed for me that they had measured and test fitted an F30 with these brakes so fitment should be great. They manufacturer website has a list of dealers in Canada. http://www.replika.ca/

For rubber I grabbed a set of 225/45/18 Nokian Hakkapeliita R2. I ran Nokians on my rear wheel drive E90 and never had a problem in Edmonton. Really looking forward to trying them on the x-drive F30. I highly recommend checking into Nokians if you haven't already.

I will probably put everything on the car this weekend. Forecast is looking pretty cold here now.
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so i called costco to get price on Michelin Xice 3 and Bridgestone WS70, the guy was telling me to go with the Michelin cause of the rating of tire that my car needs, didnt make any sense to me....
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Most people don't understand that the lower the speed rating the softer the tire. Most places in Canada gets its fair share of snow. However, you probably drive more days on dry roads during winter than snow covered roads. By going with a winter tire with a T speed rating, not only will the tire perform like garbage on dry roads, but they'll be melting away. If you want your winter tires to last, get a very good H rated or better yet, V rated winter tire.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, WS70 are too soft for BMW's. my .02 from experience and driving BMW's in Montreal my whole life
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so i called costco to get price on Michelin Xice 3 and Bridgestone WS70, the guy was telling me to go with the Michelin cause of the rating of tire that my car needs, didnt make any sense to me....
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I assume he is talking about the speed rating. The X-ice has a speed rating of H, which is 210kmph. The WS-70 has a speed rating of T, which is 190kmph.

There is no way I'd be going over 190kmph in winter.
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I assume he is talking about the speed rating. The X-ice has a speed rating of H, which is 210kmph. The WS-70 has a speed rating of T, which is 190kmph.

There is no way I'd be going over 190kmph in winter.
That is definitely not the way to look at it at all. With that logic, why net get Q rated tires? They're good for up to 160. Who goes 160km in snow?

It's all about the rubber compound. The lower the speed rating the softer the tire. The softer the tire, the faster it wears out.

Do proper research when it comes to winter tires, don't only shop by price. Especially if you're leasing your car. You're better off spending a little more now than having to buy another set of winters for your last year of your lease.
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That is definitely not the way to look at it at all. With that logic, why net get Q rated tires? They're good for up to 160. Who goes 160km in snow?

It's all about the rubber compound. The lower the speed rating the softer the tire. The softer the tire, the faster it wears out.

Do proper research when it comes to winter tires, don't only shop by price. Especially if you're leasing your car. You're better off spending a little more now than having to buy another set of winters for your last year of your lease.
so you think I should go with the Xice 3? instead of WS70?.... you suggest any other tire?

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      10-07-2013, 01:20 PM   #74
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so you think I should go with the Xice 3? instead of WS70?.... you suggest any other tire?
Without any doubt I would recommend the Xi3 over the WS70.

Other great tire options for your car are(I listed from worst to best as I have personally tried all of these tires):

Kumho I-Zen KW27 - 95V
Hankook I*CEPT Evo W310 - 95V
Pirelli W-210 Sottozero - 95H
Bridgestone Blizzak LM60 - 95H
Pirelli W-240 Sottozero 2 - 95V
Michelin X-ice Xi3 - 95H
Continental WinterContact TS830P - 95V
Yokohama W.Drive - 95V
Michelin Pilot Alpin 3/4 - 95V
Dunlop Winter Sport 3D/4D - 95V
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Any good price in the GTA for a set of TPMS. Just picked up my 435i and it has TPMS. Looks like BMW has switched to TPMS in Canada from the ABS system. The dealer wants $800 for the set, talk about been a little crazy. The Tire Rack has a set for around $200.
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I have had some experience now with the Michelin XIce3 on my F31. It's a little difficult to compare to my Legacy/Hakkapelitta combo as it is my first winter in the car (and ever with an auto tranny) but initial impressions are that the XI3 are as good as the Hakka's in snow and quieter on dry roads.
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Most people don't understand that the lower the speed rating the softer the tire. Most places in Canada gets its fair share of snow. However, you probably drive more days on dry roads during winter than snow covered roads. By going with a winter tire with a T speed rating, not only will the tire perform like garbage on dry roads, but they'll be melting away. If you want your winter tires to last, get a very good H rated or better yet, V rated winter tire.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, WS70 are too soft for BMW's. my .02 from experience and driving BMW's in Montreal my whole life
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I assume he is talking about the speed rating. The X-ice has a speed rating of H, which is 210kmph. The WS-70 has a speed rating of T, which is 190kmph.

There is no way I'd be going over 190kmph in winter.
Thats MAXIMUM speed. Sidewalls are way softer so car will be all over the place at highway speed. OEM is exactly right...get H at least.
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That is definitely not the way to look at it at all. With that logic, why net get Q rated tires? They're good for up to 160. Who goes 160km in snow?

It's all about the rubber compound. The lower the speed rating the softer the tire. The softer the tire, the faster it wears out.

Do proper research when it comes to winter tires, don't only shop by price. Especially if you're leasing your car. You're better off spending a little more now than having to buy another set of winters for your last year of your lease.
Man we think alike. If I time it well I can get 3 -4 winters (lease term) out of a set of winters. Take the cost of your winter tires and divide it by the # of years you will have them. I'm on Dunlop 3D and they are great. Quiet on dry road and don't squirm at speed. My favorite winter tire.
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      11-13-2013, 08:11 AM   #79
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I am getting mine put on tonight....they are Pirellis I think - pretty sure they are considered a "performance winter tire" which is not really what I wanted considering my car is RWD....but it came with the package from the dealership.
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i think for a rwd car its better to get the ws70/x-ice3 , last year on my f30 335i rwd, i ran lm60s, and there wasn't enough grip, this year i decided to switch to ws70. My initial feel was that the ws70 dont grip as well as the lm60, but im pretty sure the ws70 will handle a lot better than the lms in snow. bottom line is one accident will cost more than a set of brand new winters, might as well get a set of decidated winter tires if u have a RWD, if u have x-drive then i think lm-60/pa3,4 will be a better choice.
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^see post # 67
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^see post # 67
uhh....i did lol....everyone have different opinions, i dont consider "wear down faster" as one of the factor when it comes to buying winter tires, like one i said, is one collision more expensive or getting a new set of winters? yes ws70 does have softer rubber compoud....but i mean do u literally corner at 80km/h on winters? or do u drive 190 on the highway? if u drive at normal speed and take turns at normal speed, rubber compoud doesnt really matter except that it will wear faster, and it comes back to the point where a set of winters is more worth it then getting into an accident.
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That tire is for minivans etc and is NOT H rated. Thats all I'm getting at. Its not about cornering at 80 or going 190, its about stability at highway speeds and anything less than H will be twitchy. If you know anything about tires and are really concerned about that 1 accident then you would not put that tire on a 335. I've been there and its not good. Maybe that wont bother you. You should be on the 60 if you want Blizzaks.
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That tire is for minivans etc and is NOT H rated. Thats all I'm getting at. Its not about cornering at 80 or going 190, its about stability at highway speeds and anything less than H will be twitchy. If you know anything about tires and are really concerned about that 1 accident then you would not put that tire on a 335. I've been there and its not good. Maybe that wont bother you. You should be on the 60 if you want Blizzaks.
Prob getting michelin xi3 or pireli sottozero 240 rft on rwd

What do you think which tire i should get?
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^Personally I would go with the more aggressive tire which would be the xi3. I put them on my F31 (xDrive) and with my limited experience so far they are great.
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I got michelin xi3, haven't installed them yet... can't wait to text them out in the snow... I wish we never had snow though lol
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Prob getting michelin xi3 or pireli sottozero 240 rft on rwd

What do you think which tire i should get?
The Pirelli is V rated and the Michelin is H rated. I'd put the Pirelli on rwd .Will be way more stable and way more fun when roads arent snow covered. I never run RFT anymore.
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That tire is for minivans etc and is NOT H rated. Thats all I'm getting at. Its not about cornering at 80 or going 190, its about stability at highway speeds and anything less than H will be twitchy. If you know anything about tires and are really concerned about that 1 accident then you would not put that tire on a 335. I've been there and its not good. Maybe that wont bother you. You should be on the 60 if you want Blizzaks.
im running 225/45/18 all 4 corners and at 100-120 highway speed it doesnt feel twitchy, the only time that it felt twitchy was when i was testing my tires out and went up to 180, 100-120 is a really normal highway speed, if our cars will feel twitchy wat makes a minivan or etc wont feel twitchy? lol
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