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      06-28-2012, 05:20 PM   #1
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Is the F30 a flop?

Today, I was at a local Boston dealer to pay for my MY12 ZSL 335i that I am picking up next month in Munich.

There wasn't an F30 in the showroom. There wasn't an F30 in the demonstrator parking lot. There wasn't an F30 among the cars on display outside the store.

Last week I was at this dealer's Boston store; they had two F30s. Both were original launch vehicles (with the bulbous front plate holders). Neither was in the showroom. Both were buried behind rows of other cars and didn't look like they'd been driven in some time.

Plus, it's been several months now and I haven't seen an F30 anywhere on the road around where I live in suburban Boston.

I realize the big sellers here are the xDrive models (though I think that's a waste of gas and weight). And, when I bought my MY06 330i, I didn't see many E90s the first year, though they became ubiquitous about a year later.

So, what do you think? Is the F30 a bomb? Or am I just in an F30 wasteland (which is fine by me. I'd much rather be the only one with one around here. And my RWD model pretty much assures that anyway.)
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      06-28-2012, 05:38 PM   #2
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Maybe it has to do with MY13 right around the corner and those two launch vehicles are the only MY12's they'll have????

Here in the Los Angeles area I'm seeing more and more F30's on the road. I haven't checked out my local dealer lately so I don't know how inventories are for MY12's. At least I haven't seen my color yet (Imperial Blue) and I'm still getting the occasional stare by folks checking out the car.
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Plus, it's been several months now and I haven't seen an F30 anywhere on the road around where I live in suburban Boston.

I realize the big sellers here are the xDrive models (though I think that's a waste of gas and weight). And, when I bought my MY06 330i, I didn't see many E90s the first year, though they became ubiquitous about a year later.
There are many here. But I have never come across a Modern Line though
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Today, I was at a local Boston dealer to pay for my MY12 ZSL 335i that I am picking up next month in Munich.

There wasn't an F30 in the showroom. There wasn't an F30 in the demonstrator parking lot. There wasn't an F30 among the cars on display outside the store.

Last week I was at this dealer's Boston store; they had two F30s. Both were original launch vehicles (with the bulbous front plate holders). Neither was in the showroom. Both were buried behind rows of other cars and didn't look like they'd been driven in some time.

Plus, it's been several months now and I haven't seen an F30 anywhere on the road around where I live in suburban Boston.

I realize the big sellers here are the xDrive models (though I think that's a waste of gas and weight). And, when I bought my MY06 330i, I didn't see many E90s the first year, though they became ubiquitous about a year later.

So, what do you think? Is the F30 a bomb? Or am I just in an F30 wasteland (which is fine by me. I'd much rather be the only one with one around here. And my RWD model pretty much assures that anyway.)
The car has been on sale of all of 90 days and because at a few dealerships you don't SEE any, you're presuming that the entire next gen 3 series is a flop? Really? If car manufacturers made decisions based on the first 90 days of sales, they wouldn't be in business. Give it another 9 months and then we can decide it the F30 is a flop. Also, an empty inventory usually means they aren't staying on the lot long enough. I wanted to test drive one at my dealer, but he had no UNSOLD sport lines available to test drive because people were ordering up what stock they had before they even reached the dealer.
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      06-28-2012, 06:04 PM   #5
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I've been told by my local dealership they are actually not selling well based on typical sales of new body launches. Maybe not enough mainstream advertising? Either way, I pick up my ED Msport 335 shortly and can't wait.
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I just leased a 335i actually and there were only 30 new ones left in the entire US at the time of signing. They are sold out until 2013s arrive. The GM of the dealer got the car from another dealer and had to give the dealer with the 335i a car off his lot in addition to buying the 335i at whatever dealers pay for the car.
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There are many here. But I have never come across a Modern Line though
I suspected that was gonna be the case. Didn't they drop that odd wood trim in MY13? I saw a launch Modern line with this and thought, "This will appeal to a German dude who rides the train into Berlin and has a man-bag."
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The car has been on sale of all of 90 days and because at a few dealerships you don't SEE any, you're presuming that the entire next gen 3 series is a flop? Really? If car manufacturers made decisions based on the first 90 days of sales, they wouldn't be in business. Give it another 9 months and then we can decide it the F30 is a flop. Also, an empty inventory usually means they aren't staying on the lot long enough. I wanted to test drive one at my dealer, but he had no UNSOLD sport lines available to test drive because people were ordering up what stock they had before they even reached the dealer.
Yes, really.
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in the bay area there isn't enough inventory at most of the dealers, especially the sports lines. The dealerships didn't order enough of them. Of the ones they have on the lots, they are usually odd spec builds. In areas like Chicago and I suspect the NE, most are xdrive sales so dealerships haven't fully uptaken the f30 like you'll probably see in the fall.
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Not much stock here either. The logic has to be that either the cars are in fact selling well, or they aren't making enough cars to go around. The 2012 year was not a full production year either. The reason those initial cars sit is because they are fully loaded $55000 vehicles given to each dealer and the market for a $55000 328 is limited.

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in the bay area there isn't enough inventory at most of the dealers, especially the sports lines. The dealerships didn't order enough of them. Of the ones they have on the lots, they are usually odd spec builds. In areas like Chicago and I suspect the NE, most are xdrive sales so dealerships haven't fully uptaken the f30 like you'll probably see in the fall.
I don't disagree that the F30 might be selling well. In fact, I hope it is because I want the dealer mechanics to get familiar with the car by repairing someone else's car before they get to mine. :-)

But I am surprised that I haven't seen any on the road here in Boston. None. Zero. Zilch.
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I don't disagree that the F30 might be selling well. In fact, I hope it is because I want the dealer mechanics to get familiar with the car by repairing someone else's car before they get to mine. :-)

But I am surprised that I haven't seen any on the road here in Boston. None. Zero. Zilch.
Ive been the only one around here with an f30 for a bit. It was nearly impossible to find a well loaded sportline. I just happened to find one that was perfect on cape cod of all places. Ive seen one 328i since ive had it. there just arent many out there that arent already sold. Its hardly a flop, the car is truly amazing.
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Ive been the only one around here with an f30 for a bit. It was nearly impossible to find a well loaded sportline. I just happened to find one that was perfect on cape cod of all places. Ive seen one 328i since ive had it. there just arent many out there that arent already sold. Its hardly a flop, the car is truly amazing.
I envy you: you've got your car, you're on the Cape and this upcoming week is supposed to be beautiful. My car won't be here until at least mid-September.

Did you order Speed Limit Info? Does it actually read the speed limit signs, which as you know, can be pretty small in some parts of MA.
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I envy you: you've got your car, you're on the Cape and this upcoming week is supposed to be beautiful. My car won't be here until at least mid-September.

Did you order Speed Limit Info? Does it actually read the speed limit signs, which as you know, can be pretty small in some parts of MA.
I have about every option but lane departure and speed limit info. I think it has every other option. I was shocked when I found it and drove down there immediately to confirm. I love it, youll be so happy when you get it. If its any consolation I still miss and loved my e90.
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I have about every option but lane departure and speed limit info. I think it has every other option. I was shocked when I found it and drove down there immediately to confirm. I love it, youll be so happy when you get it. If its any consolation I still miss and loved my e90.
I loved my E90 -- it was a fantastic car. I sold it a month or so ago and with the exception of a Honda S2000, I've never missed a car as much as that 330i. Though nearly 85K miles, it was a blast -- and as tight the day I sold it as the day I picked it up in Munich.

I test drove a ZSL F30 335i in February at the dealer. The sales guy and I were tearing up the roads in MetroWest (I think I scared him a little). To be honest, in that short drive I didn't notice some of the stuff people keep whining about here, like the steering.

I was too blown away by how competent the car felt -- and how much better the ride on the RFTs were compared to my E90.

It's great to hear that you love your F30 after owning an E90. I am betting I'll have the same experience.
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Lots of 3-series sold here in the Boston area are xDrives.
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I've been keeping my eyes peeled for one here in Tampa. The only place I've seen them is at the local dealership. At the time they had maybe a half dozen or so.
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MY 2012 was just way too short of an introduction cycle. I think 2013, we'll start seeing them commonplace like we do for all bmw 3er historically.
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MY 2012 was just way too short of an introduction cycle. I think 2013, we'll start seeing them commonplace like we do for all bmw 3er historically.
I hope so -- even if the car becomes commonplace like the E90 did, I can still pretend that my MY12 is "rare." :-)
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I have seen 1 F30 on the road. Also I was talking to a salesman at around the first of May and he said they hadn't sold any yet.
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I've got 3-4 that I see at the train station every morning here and a bunch on the road. But then again I can WALK to the BMW dealership in 10min from my house... So some may have been test drives.

Starting to see a fair number around downtown Toronto too. And yes, everyone mistakes mine for a 5er at first glance.
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Yea, the F30 is virtually nonexistent here in New England.

I've only seen 1 on the road since February. One local dealership only has two on the lot and they've been sitting there for 3 months. Dealerships are definitely waiting for the xdrives. But also, I think the bad economy and the higher prices for BMW do play some effect on its sales. It's hard to buy a new car when you don't know of you'll have your job tomorrow.
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