software update (UPD05021) failing

smithf80 · 02-10-2015, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by zenmaster

Among other service work, got car updated to "I". It seems that brakes work better now - faster to a stop. Also, all-electric mode can deliver slightly more power before turning on engine, as gauged by driving up parking garage ramps at faster speed. Both good things.

Now running NBT_I14275A, MN-002.049.003, TN-002.049.003. Will try bluetooth tomorrow.

The whole car was flashed so you will probably notice some drivability improvements.

I'm sure your BT update will work as it did on NBT_D.

Now let's hope that it woks out for twincam23. I'm sure I-Level the update will fix his problem but I must admit I've never seen it say "Invalid update file" because of the NBT_B incompatibility, it normally will say it is not compatible. Regardless this should fix things.

zenmaster · 02-10-2015, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by smithf32

The whole car was flashed so you will probably notice some drivability improvements.

I'm sure your BT update will work as it did on NBT_D.

Now let's hope that it woks out for twincam23. I'm sure I-Level the update will fix his problem but I must admit I've never seen it say "Invalid update file" because of the NBT_B incompatibility, it normally will say it is not compatible. Regardless this should fix things.

Should fix it. I also just upgraded from the dealer-installed connected drive software using UPD05062.BIN. Now running MN-2.255.60, TN-2.255.62.

I would like to use "BMW Apps", which I paid for, but BMW still does not support the Nexus 5 (even in 2015 models), only the Samsung S4.

twincam23 · 02-10-2015, 11:12 PM

Finally got my car back after dropping it off Saturday morning. Technician kept telling SA that there were no updates for my car. I had to raise my voice to get the shop foreman involved.
Noticeable improvement when switching from battery to gas. much smoother.
Pandora album cover updating now too.
Thanks guys

smithf80 · 02-11-2015, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by twincam23

Finally got my car back after dropping it off Saturday morning. Technician kept telling SA that there were no updates for my car. I had to raise my voice to get the shop foreman involved.
Noticeable improvement when switching from battery to gas. much smoother.
Pandora album cover updating now too.
Thanks guys

Excellent!! Glad to see it worked out.

NitramA · 02-11-2015, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by zenmaster

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Originally Posted by smithf32

The whole car was flashed so you will probably notice some drivability improvements.

I'm sure your BT update will work as it did on NBT_D.

Now let's hope that it woks out for twincam23. I'm sure I-Level the update will fix his problem but I must admit I've never seen it say "Invalid update file" because of the NBT_B incompatibility, it normally will say it is not compatible. Regardless this should fix things.

Should fix it. I also just upgraded from the dealer-installed connected drive software using UPD05062.BIN. Now running MN-2.255.60, TN-2.255.62.

I would like to use "BMW Apps", which I paid for, but BMW still does not support the Nexus 5 (even in 2015 models), only the Samsung S4.

Just looking through this post and noticed your comments on not being able to use BMW apps with a Nexus 5.
I wondered what issues you're having as I've got a Nexus 5 and it seems to work ok.
I tend not to use it more because of the limited apps- I've no use for Twitter and Facebook and the audio app is junk. ( they need to get Spotify sorted).

Spotify through Bluetooth seems to work ok although that can be a bit flaky too.

smithf80 · 02-11-2015, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NitramA

Just looking through this post and noticed your comments on not being able to use BMW apps with a Nexus 5.
I wondered what issues you're having as I've got a Nexus 5 and it seems to work ok.
I tend not to use it more because of the limited apps- I've no use for Twitter and Facebook and the audio app is junk. ( they need to get Spotify sorted).

Spotify through Bluetooth seems to work ok although that can be a bit flaky too.

I'm wondering the same zenmaster. What doesn't work, usually the supported phone list doesn't mean shit.

zenmaster · 02-11-2015, 01:56 PM

Must be that my car is too old and only iPhone is supported? The Connected app can not make a USB connection to the car.
Maybe coding can turn it on?

smithf80 · 02-11-2015, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zenmaster

Must be that my car is too old and only iPhone is supported? The Connected app can not make a USB connection to the car.
Maybe coding can turn it on?

Don't some androids have different modes for the USB port's connection type?

I'm a technology expert but not too versed in that Android tbh, maybe that's only the case on older Android software but still worth a look.

zenmaster · 02-11-2015, 03:44 PM

The Android BMW Connected app uses MTP (atomic, sequential file transfers) to communicate between itself and the NBT. For my attempts, this was enabled.

I also tried different USB cables. (Does play phone's videos and music fine). BMW says android apps are supported as of July '13, but my car is March '13 so I'm thinking this feature was simply not coded. The long-press of voice button (I.e. for "Google Now") also does not work for me.

smithf80 · 02-11-2015, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by zenmaster

The Android BMW Connected app uses MTP (atomic, sequential file transfers) to communicate between itself and the NBT. For my attempts, this was enabled.

I also tried different USB cables. (Does play phone's videos and music fine). BMW says android apps are supported as of July '13, but my car is March '13 so I'm thinking this feature was simply not coded. The long-press of voice button (I.e. for "Google Now") also does not work for me.

Interesting. You can try to change your build date and then VO code your HU_NBT, see if that fixes it (although I would find it weird if it did work, its worth the 5 minutes it would take to try). If you need help with this let me know.

mango14 · 02-13-2015, 07:59 PM

Twincam - my dealership seems convinced they cannot update me to version I from G. How did you convince them otherwise?

Also, did the nbt update unlock tire pressure being displayed? Or is that still only by coding on earlier cars?

twincam23 · 02-13-2015, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mango14

Twincam - my dealership seems convinced they cannot update me to version I from G. How did you convince them otherwise?

Also, did the nbt update unlock tire pressure being displayed? Or is that still only by coding on earlier cars?

I was on B and getting errors updating from the bmw.com/update site.
The replies from this threat gave me the information I need to persist the dealer to update.
I told them they sold me a brand new computer running Windows XP and I cant update it because it's no longer supported.

mango14 · 02-14-2015, 05:01 AM

Does your idrive now display tire pressures?

twincam23 · 02-14-2015, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mango14

Does your idrive now display tire pressures?

Not by default. I had to enable the code via E-sys.
If that's what your looking for, you should be able to enable that setting with your current firmware

mango14 · 02-14-2015, 10:10 AM

My first priority to is get Bluetooth song data working properly - though I wouldn't mind tire data displayed.

BDO · 02-21-2015, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by smithf32

You're going to want to go to your dealer and have your integration level updated. Tell them you can't do the latest bluetooth update because there is an incompatibility with NBT_B firmware and the update. When they do the key read it will tell them that there is a newer version available.

Also have B firmware - is there any way I can update this on my own, or does it have to go to the dealer?

smithf80 · 02-21-2015, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BDO

Also have B firmware - is there any way I can update this on my own, or does it have to go to the dealer?

It is possible if you know how to do coding and feel comfortable flashing modules but I would not recommend it (and I'm an experienced coder), have the dealer do it.

BDO · 02-28-2015, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BDO

Also have B firmware - is there any way I can update this on my own, or does it have to go to the dealer?

It is possible if you know how to do coding and feel comfortable flashing modules but I would not recommend it (and I'm an experienced coder), have the dealer do it.

Car is booked for Wednesday for the update. Just one question : I coded extended BT support on the car - will this regain or will the dealer flash reset the car to "default"?

skypx · 02-28-2015, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BDO

Car is booked for Wednesday for the update. Just one question : I coded extended BT support on the car - will this regain or will the dealer flash reset the car to "default"?

All coding will be removed.

BDO · 03-01-2015, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by skypx

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Originally Posted by BDO

Car is booked for Wednesday for the update. Just one question : I coded extended BT support on the car - will this regain or will the dealer flash reset the car to "default"?

All coding will be removed.

Bah. I better go and see what was changed then so I can do it again.

I know this is going outside the scope of this thread now, but is there any way to back up the current state and then just revert to it once they flash the car?

BDO · 03-05-2015, 05:45 AM

ISTA/P wouldn't complete the update, and required that the radio be replaced before proceeding.

Can this be because I coded extended BT support which the car didn't come with (I.e. The VIN doesn't include that option while the car now does, causing a conflict of some sort)?

BDO · 03-06-2015, 11:52 AM

Not only did ISTA/P bomb out halfway through the update, and request the radio to be replaced, but now navigation doesn't work at all, just sits at the screen saying "Starting Navigation System" forever.

WTF. I am starting to grow not very fond of this car.

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zenmaster Brigadier General 1577 Rep 3,888 Posts Drives: '17 M2 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (1)	The Android BMW Connected app uses MTP (atomic, sequential file transfers) to communicate between itself and the NBT. For my attempts, this was enabled. I also tried different USB cables. (Does play phone's videos and music fine). BMW says android apps are supported as of July '13, but my car is March '13 so I'm thinking this feature was simply not coded. The long-press of voice button (I.e. for "Google Now") also does not work for me.
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BDO Lieutenant 276 Rep 536 Posts Drives: 2016 X6 40d M-sport Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Citizen of the World iTrader: (0)	Not only did ISTA/P bomb out halfway through the update, and request the radio to be replaced, but now navigation doesn't work at all, just sits at the screen saying "Starting Navigation System" forever. WTF. I am starting to grow not very fond of this car.
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