[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by yellowllewellyn

335 does come with moon roof tho right? Why isn't it standard on 328. I mean come on.... It's a roof....

There are people who actively avoid/do no want a sunroof in their car. I have had cars where sunroof delete was a rare and appealing option.

[BMWinGE]

Originally Posted by yellowllewellyn

335 does come with moon roof tho right? Why isn't it standard on 328. I mean come on.... It's a roof....

its needed for the 335 owners with the inflated egos/heads.

sorry, couldn't resist. i love the 335i.

[BMWforLife]

Originally Posted by ssedha

What about the Stock Sound System? Do both the 328 and the 335 get the Hi-Fi 9 speaker stereo system? or is that only standard in the 335i?

Standard in both.

[BMWforLife]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

^^^^
&
more debt.

Only if you finance ;0

[Amit328]

Originally Posted by notfound

Xenons! It's the only option that I regret not getting

+1

[BMWgasm]

Originally Posted by GB72

335 a real bmw should have at least 6 cylinders!

Interesting statement considering the original 3er came with a four-banger.

[ƒ°]

Originally Posted by 300hp

It has started

Hook. Line. & Sinker.

[shivaswrath]

Originally Posted by BMWgasm

Interesting statement considering the original 3er came with a four-banger.

technically the first BMW engine was a plane's engine. I don't know how many cylinders were in there, but....4-bang that factoid!

[yellowllewellyn]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

technically the first BMW engine was a plane's engine. I don't know how many cylinders were in there, but....4-bang that factoid!

It was a Diesel V12 or V24. I forget.

[BMWgasm]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

technically the first BMW engine was a plane's engine. I don't know how many cylinders were in there, but....4-bang that factoid!

True, which is why I said 3er. Good trivia though!

[TheObviousChild]

Originally Posted by yellowllewellyn

It was a Diesel V12 or V24. I forget.

So could a fanboy claim that "Real BMW's have 24 cylinders"?

[David328M-Sport]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

technically the first BMW engine was a plane's engine. I don't know how many cylinders were in there, but....4-bang that factoid!

BMW's first significant engine was a Liquid cooled I6, labelled BMW IIIa in 1918

[weixp386]

Originally Posted by BMWgasm

Interesting statement considering the original 3er came with a four-banger.

+1

[OC40]

Originally Posted by DrivenByE30

in addition to the above answer, you get a bigger ego too, but less money in the bank...

+1

Surprising how many people stare at it when you pull up.

[jzcrna]

Sport Auto transmission, hands down., which also means Sportline.

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by OC40

+1

Surprising how many people stare at it when you pull up.

And how would that be different from a same color MSport 328?

They only look different from behind due to the exhaust tips which the general public would not notice.

[ft1338]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

There are people who actively avoid/do no want a sunroof in their car. I have had cars where sunroof delete was a rare and appealing option.

Agreed, to me it's just one more thing to fail and add weight, reduce rigidity and I don't see the benefit (like, at all). But I will have one when I get my 335 so we shall see...

[OC40]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

And how would that be different from a same color MSport 328?

They only look different from behind due to the exhaust tips which the general public would not notice.

The sound (trying to avoid the 328vs335 as mentioned above).

[tdizzle]

Originally Posted by ft1338

Agreed, to me it's just one more thing to fail and add weight, reduce rigidity and I don't see the benefit (like, at all). But I will have one when I get my 335 so we shall see...

I've had one on my last two vehicles and really never use it except to say that I used it... If not having it wouldve saved any money (and was an option) I wouldve chosen one without. But I'm also the guy who probably would never want a convertible. Not a fan of the way most look with the top up, and the weather here is either cold or hot and hardly in between so I probably would never put it down anyway.

[tdizzle]

Originally Posted by OC40

The sound (trying to avoid the 328vs335 as mentioned above).

Obviously, most of us are not the general public. The way the exhaust looks from behind is one of my favorite things about the 335. I notice every time I see a 335 because of the exhausts and because it seems 95% of the bmw 3ers around here are 328s.

[SamS]

Yesterday I took my AH3 into service to clear an emissions code. They gave me a baseline 328i F30 as a loaner. What a terrible car this was. Not at all a "sports sedan". Felt about as sporty as my 2006 Accord, no exaggeration.

I have driven a 328i several times in the past, but this was my first time having one for the entire day, especially after I've lived with the AH3 for a month.

Here are the biggest faults with the F30 328i, IMO:

• Terrible engine idle noise. The solution is to turn up the radio?
• Terrible steering feel, even in sport mode. The solution is to order DHP?
• Terrible road holding/grip. The solution is to order DHP?
• The A.S.S. start up is just plain abrasive and annoying. Solution is to turn it off, but you are of course wasting gas. If they could ever implement the AH3 start/stop system in the regular F30s, people would be dancing in the streets.

I was impressed with the mpg on the 328i. I bet it could even better the AH3, if you drive carefully and use A.S.S. all the time.

But overall, the only way I would buy/order a 328i is loaded up, just like my AH3. And that brings it to an MSRP of $55,945 when spec'd identically to my AH3. My car was $65K sticker, and still has a $3500 Eco credit. So the delta (before negotiations/rebates/credits) is $5530.

So what are you getting for that $5500?

• 75lb-ft more torque - which is the most apparent difference in real-world driving
• 95HP more - probably noticeable at higher speeds
• New NBT Navigation - for now
• About the same mpg
• ~500lbs more vehicle weight. Personally I don't mind this. Makes the AH3 feel more planted and stable on the road. You can definitely feel the difference, but the 328i just feels more light and floaty, where the AH3 just feels stuck to the ground, and more comfortable to drive at all speeds.
• Smoother stop/start. This applies to 335i as well, but even more so to the AH3.
• Better sounding exhaust/intake noise. This cannot be debated

In short, if I was really trying to save on the vehicle price, I could probably live with a 328i that was fully optioned. I wouldn't enjoy it as much as my AH3, but it would be livable. But a base 328i... whew, not for me!

[ft1338]

Originally Posted by SamS

Yesterday I took my AH3 into service to clear an emissions code. They gave me a baseline 328i F30 as a loaner. What a terrible car this was. Not at all a "sports sedan". Felt about as sporty as my 2006 Accord, no exaggeration.

I have driven a 328i several times in the past, but this was my first time having one for the entire day, especially after I've lived with the AH3 for a month.

Here are the biggest faults with the F30 328i, IMO:

• Terrible engine idle noise. The solution is to turn up the radio?
• Terrible steering feel, even in sport mode. The solution is to order DHP?
• Terrible road holding/grip. The solution is to order DHP?
• The A.S.S. start up is just plain abrasive and annoying. Solution is to turn it off, but you are of course wasting gas. If they could ever implement the AH3 start/stop system in the regular F30s, people would be dancing in the streets.

I was impressed with the mpg on the 328i. I bet it could even better the AH3, if you drive carefully and use A.S.S. all the time.

But overall, the only way I would buy/order a 328i is loaded up, just like my AH3. And that brings it to an MSRP of $55,945 when spec'd identically to my AH3. My car was $65K sticker, and still has a $3500 Eco credit. So the delta (before negotiations/rebates/credits) is $5530.

So what are you getting for that $5500?

• 75lb-ft more torque - which is the most apparent difference in real-world driving
• 95HP more - probably noticeable at higher speeds
• New NBT Navigation - for now
• About the same mpg
• ~500lbs more vehicle weight. Personally I don't mind this. Makes the AH3 feel more planted and stable on the road. You can definitely feel the difference, but the 328i just feels more light and floaty, where the AH3 just feels stuck to the ground, and more comfortable to drive at all speeds.
• Smoother stop/start. This applies to 335i as well, but even more so to the AH3.
• Better sounding exhaust/intake noise. This cannot be debated

In short, if I was really trying to save on the vehicle price, I could probably live with a 328i that was fully optioned. I wouldn't enjoy it as much as my AH3, but it would be livable. But a base 328i... whew, not for me!

Your message got me thinking... How does the AH3 compare to the 335i price-wise after any gov. incentives? From what you're saying it's almost as if they were on par... Which bring another question -> for the same price, AH3 or 335i???